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TTASA constructing Circuit Racing Track at Camden

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TTASA constructing Circuit Racing Track at Camden

The President of TTASA Mr. Mohammed Ali said his association has started the clearing of an area immediately north of the Camden runway / drag strip that will be used for a circuit racing track.

Mr. Ali said the new circuit will be 1.1 miles long and will be more or less a mirror image of the track at Wallerfield. He said the new track will be very interesting to drivers with both “left and right handers”. Stating also the actual track surface being constructed will be 40 feet wide with ample room for passing and paved with asphalt with wider sections at the corners with sand traps. No budget was given for the cost of this project.

TTASA, the National Governing Body (NGB) for Motorsport in T&T was granted permission by the Commissioner of State Lands for the use of Camden for motorsport activities in 20077 and again in 2011 where only drag racing events have been taking place. The completion of this circuit racing track would hopefully see the rebirth of circuit racing in Trinidad which was stopped completely with the closure of Wallerfield in 2006.

Check the photos below courtesy Devin Latchman.

100 Responses to “TTASA constructing Circuit Racing Track at Camden”

  1. User avatar

    kurpal_v2

    Jul 13th, 2012

    link wrote:
    kurpal_v2 wrote:
    link wrote:
    Computerman said:
    Quote:
    TTASA is not accepting new members at this time!

    .
    that is totally incorrect……ANYONE CAN JOIN TTASA….JUST FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE OUTLINED & SUBMIT YOUR FORMS WITH THE REQUIRED APPLICATION FEES.
    .
    If allyuh fraid Mohammed Ali, ask me to propose your nomination…I’ll do that & get a valid seconder to complete the application.
    .
    Ali right when he said ‘allyuh boys only talking…none ah allyuh paying any money to do nuthin
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    remember, I am no longer bound & gagged by administrative protocol :idea:

    Link, princess, why would I put money into something Im against?

    Why would I put money into something I dont want?

    Why would I sign up to an organization which is run by a bunch of old twats who are trying to kill the little avenue of motorsport we have locally? Worst yet, these are the people who are opposed to change..

    Please share, what are the application fees like?

    before I answer you……YOU name the TTASA Management members….

    I aint feeling to mess up my computer, take Ali at the top and Ramnath at the bottom, sure you can fill in the blanks.

  2. User avatar

    link

    Jul 13th, 2012

    kurpal_v2 wrote:
    link wrote:
    kurpal_v2 wrote:
    link wrote:
    Computerman said:
    Quote:
    TTASA is not accepting new members at this time!

    .
    that is totally incorrect……ANYONE CAN JOIN TTASA….JUST FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE OUTLINED & SUBMIT YOUR FORMS WITH THE REQUIRED APPLICATION FEES.
    .
    If allyuh fraid Mohammed Ali, ask me to propose your nomination…I’ll do that & get a valid seconder to complete the application.
    .
    Ali right when he said ‘allyuh boys only talking…none ah allyuh paying any money to do nuthin
    .
    remember, I am no longer bound & gagged by administrative protocol :idea:

    Link, princess, why would I put money into something Im against?

    Why would I put money into something I dont want?

    Why would I sign up to an organization which is run by a bunch of old twats who are trying to kill the little avenue of motorsport we have locally? Worst yet, these are the people who are opposed to change..

    Please share, what are the application fees like?

    before I answer you……YOU name the TTASA Management members….

    I aint feeling to mess up my computer, take Ali at the top and Ramnath at the bottom, sure you can fill in the blanks.

    and here I prove Ali’s point………..u guys ain’t even paying to see ants wine……
    .
    there’s a new ‘management’ in place……since wednesday 11th July…..
    .
    don’t u think y’all should become part of the solution now ???
    .
    rgds

  3. User avatar

    kurpal_v2

    Jul 13th, 2012

    link wrote:
    kurpal_v2 wrote:
    link wrote:
    kurpal_v2 wrote:
    .
    that is totally incorrect……ANYONE CAN JOIN TTASA….JUST FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE OUTLINED & SUBMIT YOUR FORMS WITH THE REQUIRED APPLICATION FEES.
    .
    If allyuh fraid Mohammed Ali, ask me to propose your nomination…I’ll do that & get a valid seconder to complete the application.
    .
    Ali right when he said ‘allyuh boys only talking…none ah allyuh paying any money to do nuthin
    .
    remember, I am no longer bound & gagged by administrative protocol :idea:

    Link, princess, why would I put money into something Im against?

    Why would I put money into something I dont want?

    Why would I sign up to an organization which is run by a bunch of old twats who are trying to kill the little avenue of motorsport we have locally? Worst yet, these are the people who are opposed to change..

    Please share, what are the application fees like?

    before I answer you……YOU name the TTASA Management members….

    I aint feeling to mess up my computer, take Ali at the top and Ramnath at the bottom, sure you can fill in the blanks.

    and here I prove Ali’s point………..u guys ain’t even paying to see ants wine……
    .
    there’s a new ‘management’ in place……since wednesday 11th July…..
    .
    don’t u think y’all should become part of the solution now ???
    .
    rgds[/quote]

    New management or a reshuffle of an old deck? Be real, what new blood was brought into the organisation? Please correct my statement that Mr.Ali is at the top of the managment chain and Mr.Ramnath is the member rep or I have to pay $500 for that?

    I want to be part of the solution BUT and note this part well, I refuse to join an organisation where my opinion is put to the side, I refuse to join an organisation where I am not allowed to bear witness to important documents which define the organization.

  4. User avatar

    link

    Jul 13th, 2012

    ok…pray tell how u r going tb ‘part of the solution, then ?’

  5. User avatar

    kurpal_v2

    Jul 13th, 2012

    link wrote:
    ok…pray tell how u r going tb ‘part of the solution, then ?’

    Answer my question please Mr.Sampath, you say you are no longer bound by the administrative ropes so please answer my questions, namely:

    Quote:
    Please correct my statement that Mr.Ali is at the top of the managment chain and Mr.Ramnath is the member rep

    I will gladly answer your question afterwards.

    Also Mr.Sampath, would you be open to an interview from local press?

  6. User avatar

    Computerman

    Jul 13th, 2012

    link wrote:
    Computerman said:
    Quote:
    TTASA is not accepting new members at this time!

    .
    that is totally incorrect……ANYONE CAN JOIN TTASA….JUST FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE OUTLINED & SUBMIT YOUR FORMS WITH THE REQUIRED APPLICATION.

    How many new members did TTASA allow to join in 2011? How many new members did TTASA allow to join for 2012 (up to the end of June)?

    If I ‘fraid’ Ali? ROTFLMFAO!! Mr. Sampath, do not speak of matters above your pay grade! :!:

  7. User avatar

    SR

    Jul 13th, 2012

    link wrote:
    pete..
    that ‘work’ going on within the boundaries of the airfield……CEC doesn’t apply…how much work u see in Piarco… cec sheit don’t come up for runway apron work…
    faster this done is faster autocross, drifting, karting, solodex & time attack come to pass….YES…RC racing too !!!
    .
    ah sorry for zoom raider :
    Quote:
    … once circuit gets in the way then there will be no need for drag racing….

    what…with 7 different motor sport disciplines fighting for 8 weekend spots per month :shock:
    oops…make that 8 disciplines…forgot to list CIRCUIT RACING above

    no no no

    rc racing already has its own offroad track and already have thier own plans for an on road course

    they dont need TTASA to come and frig it up like they have done with everything else they try to control

  8. User avatar

    link

    Jul 13th, 2012

    kurpal_v2 & computerman
    .
    please find the correct avenue to ‘beat’………
    .
    I am no longer part of TTASA ‘management’, so u’all have lost what u thought was a whipping horse…
    .
    call Ali or someone else & continue yr ‘ting’…since it "above my pay grade"
    .

  9. User avatar

    sMASH

    Jul 13th, 2012

    ttasa is not the solution, it is not part of the solution, its not part of the problem….. it IS the problem.

    as long as it remains the NGB it IS the problem.

    it has to let the MSGC be the NGB and that is the solution.

    when it does so, ttasa can become a member club of a discipline which makes up the MSGC.

    support ttasa and perpetuate the problem.

    maximum leadership like manning and panday and stalin, and idi amin went out of style decades ago.
    democracy is the shiznit now.

  10. User avatar

    HondaHo de 1st

    Jul 14th, 2012

    Link…. no disrespect eh but i’ll try and put it simply….. the only way anyone INCLUDING MYSELF will ever join TTASA is if their entire and i mean their ENTIRE administration steps down and completely new blood is injected…. it is the only way….

    sorry bro..

  11. User avatar

    frustr8ed

    Jul 14th, 2012

    Computerman wrote:
    link wrote:
    Computerman said:
    Quote:
    TTASA is not accepting new members at this time!

    .
    that is totally incorrect……ANYONE CAN JOIN TTASA….JUST FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE OUTLINED & SUBMIT YOUR FORMS WITH THE REQUIRED APPLICATION.

    How many new members did TTASA allow to join in 2011? How many new members did TTASA allow to join for 2012 (up to the end of June)?

    actually TTASA took on quite a number of new members in 2012 and a few more just before the elections… friends and family of Ali mostly, a few trustees that now feel indebted to Ali and some strategic "big sawati" to help them lie in the ministry.

    These TTASA people are dishonest at their core but they swear they are "transparent". When Ali got up to say that he will be a good, honest and transparent president I think that was the point where John Powell could not take it any more and he got up to voice his opinion. So what did the TTASA idiots do? They shut him up.

    If this was a well working team, why all the changes (except the husband and wife at the top)? 5 competitions chairman resignations and a suspension, 2 treasures accused of stealing money, 2 past presidents expelled, 1 trustee stripped of his status and FIA appointments which the president Ali gladly took for himself, numerous other member expulsions and suspensions, vice president filing a vote of no confidence against the president, honorary secretary accusing the vice president of stealing money and lying, long time members walking out to go compete at Drag and Wind, a dozen TTASA drag events yet claims of having no money and all this in just the past 2 years. Yeah man, this is a strong team.

    it seems anyone who opposes Ali gets kicked out and accused to stealing or holding back motorsport progress.

    Meanwhile… Karting, Rally, Solodex, Drag and Wind etc going on with proper national championships.

  12. User avatar

    THE_FUGITIVES

    Jul 14th, 2012

    frustr8ed wrote:
    Computerman wrote:
    link wrote:
    Computerman said:
    Quote:
    TTASA is not accepting new members at this time!

    .
    that is totally incorrect……ANYONE CAN JOIN TTASA….JUST FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE OUTLINED & SUBMIT YOUR FORMS WITH THE REQUIRED APPLICATION.

    How many new members did TTASA allow to join in 2011? How many new members did TTASA allow to join for 2012 (up to the end of June)?

    actually TTASA took on quite a number of new members in 2012 and a few more just before the elections… friends and family of Ali mostly, a few trustees that now feel indebted to Ali and some strategic "big sawati" to help them lie in the ministry.

    These TTASA people are dishonest at their core but they swear they are "transparent". When Ali got up to say that he will be a good, honest and transparent president I think that was the point where John Powell could not take it any more and he got up to voice his opinion. So what did the TTASA idiots do? They shut him up.

    If this was a well working team, why all the changes (except the husband and wife at the top)? 5 competitions chairman resignations and a suspension, 2 treasures accused of stealing money, 2 past presidents expelled, 1 trustee stripped of his status and FIA appointments which the president Ali gladly took for himself, numerous other member expulsions and suspensions, vice president filing a vote of no confidence against the president, honorary secretary accusing the vice president of stealing money and lying, long time members walking out to go compete at Drag and Wind, a dozen TTASA drag events yet claims of having no money and all this in just the past 2 years. Yeah man, this is a strong team.

    it seems anyone who opposes Ali gets kicked out and accused to stealing or holding back motorsport progress.

    Meanwhile… Karting, Rally, Solodex, Drag and Wind etc going on with proper national championships.

    WOW , im borrowing this

  13. User avatar

    link

    Jul 14th, 2012

    don’t ‘borrow’ anything…call me -683-5541- & arrange to meet me….I’ll GIVE you copies of docs relating to above..it’s all public knowledge…including the report that Ali had read out about the money ‘Link tief’. The Honorary Secretary even read an ‘auditor’s report in which she called my name saying ‘money still missing’…EVEN AFTER TTASA GOT A REPORT FROM ME SHOWING A $6000 WHICH WAS (CLAIMED BY ME TO HAVE BEEN) DELIBERATELY LEFT OUT OF THE COLLECTION/DEPOSIT REPORTS TO MAKE IT SEEM AS THOUGH MONEY WAS SHORT-DEPOSITED. I’m surprised that it never came out that Ali also flatly stated that ‘Link’ sent in invoices for tent rentals that Ali stated NEVER came to Camden….& I charge ppl to set up food stalls in Camden for races…
    .
    as I said…don’t borrow…all public documents are available…allyuh want to see a " good, honest and transparent president"….when allyuh hear the audio of some of the meetings where Ali cuss & get on when I opposed his stymied attitude, allyuh go bawl !!!
    .
    All of the above AND MORE, I have written to the Board of Trustees (copying the TTASA Secretary as per protocol), but it seems to have been buried like when Mangalsingh closed the door for the motion of no-confidence at the AGM by stating "there will be no incoming/outgoing correspondence".
    .
    Mangalsingh SING for his supper that night & all-ah-dem sacrificed their consciences in the face of blatant violations of the constitution to sit on that sham management. Can you imagine a TTASA TRUSTEE stating to membership that the constitution should not be followed ??? And, so orchestrated this was, persons present actually applauded this farsical statement.
    .
    Well you all know the outcome of above….I, Link Sampath, walked out of that fiasco, & Ali got up & said he will be a ‘good, honest and transparent president’….ONLY SUBSTANTIATING WHAT HE WAS PRIOR
    .
    take dat

  14. User avatar

    pete

    Jul 14th, 2012

    Files bussin!

    I would laugh but the whole situation is so sad that I really shouldn’t.. :(

  15. User avatar

    janfar

    Jul 14th, 2012

    Clearly the shoe is on the other foot now…

  16. User avatar

    frustr8ed

    Jul 14th, 2012

    link wrote:
    don’t ‘borrow’ anything…call me -683-5541- & arrange to meet me….I’ll GIVE you copies of docs relating to above..it’s all public knowledge…including the report that Ali had read out about the money ‘Link tief’. The Honorary Secretary even read an ‘auditor’s report in which she called my name saying ‘money still missing’…EVEN AFTER TTASA GOT A REPORT FROM ME SHOWING A $6000 WHICH WAS (CLAIMED BY ME TO HAVE BEEN) DELIBERATELY LEFT OUT OF THE COLLECTION/DEPOSIT REPORTS TO MAKE IT SEEM AS THOUGH MONEY WAS SHORT-DEPOSITED. I’m surprised that it never came out that Ali also flatly stated that ‘Link’ sent in invoices for tent rentals that Ali stated NEVER came to Camden….& I charge ppl to set up food stalls in Camden for races…
    .
    as I said…don’t borrow…all public documents are available…allyuh want to see a " good, honest and transparent president"….when allyuh hear the audio of some of the meetings where Ali cuss & get on when I opposed his stymied attitude, allyuh go bawl !!!
    .
    All of the above AND MORE, I have written to the Board of Trustees (copying the TTASA Secretary as per protocol), but it seems to have been buried like when Mangalsingh closed the door for the motion of no-confidence at the AGM by stating "there will be no incoming/outgoing correspondence".
    .
    Mangalsingh SING for his supper that night & all-ah-dem sacrificed their consciences in the face of blatant violations of the constitution to sit on that sham management. Can you imagine a TTASA TRUSTEE stating to membership that the constitution should not be followed ??? And, so orchestrated this was, persons present actually applauded this farsical statement.
    .
    Well you all know the outcome of above….I, Link Sampath, walked out of that fiasco, & Ali got up & said he will be a ‘good, honest and transparent president’….ONLY SUBSTANTIATING WHAT HE WAS PRIOR
    .
    take dat

    you missed the part when as you left the new Vice President and Treasurer laughed with each other at you.

    But careful Link, you might get shooed away like Vinda and Vinny Ramsingh, or a suspension like Hannif Abrahim or expulsion like Radha for talking like that against Ali.

  17. User avatar

    THE_FUGITIVES

    Jul 14th, 2012

    now I’m confused link because every time the guys ask certain questions you say ask our affiliate clubs , this is headache boy , I want to go live Puerto Rico , US or Australia , Yes I love the Sport so much to do that, Who knows I go find a nice wifey there too. lol

  18. User avatar

    frustr8ed

    Jul 14th, 2012

    THE_FUGITIVES wrote:
    now I’m confused link because every time the guys ask certain questions you say ask our affiliate clubs , this is headache boy , I want to go live Puerto Rico , US or Australia , Yes I love the Sport so much to do that, Who knows I go find a nice wifey there too. lol

    why are you confused?

    Link was Ali’s vice president, his goon. So Link was spreading on the TTASA/Ali bullsheit with a shovel on the forum.

    Link eventually realised what Ali and Vera are really up to and so he opposed them the democratic way in an election but they dismissed him with lies and propaganda as dictators usually do. I’m pretty sure Vera put Aaron Dowridge up to verbally beating down Link in front everyone just minutes before the elections.

    It is not confusing at all. Link is not on the TTASA executive again so he can now speak the truth without getting bawl up from Ali.

  19. User avatar

    link

    Jul 14th, 2012

    frustr8ed wrote:
    But careful Link, you might get shooed away like Vinda and Vinny Ramsingh, or a suspension like Hannif Abrahim or expulsion like Radha for talking like that against Ali.

    the truth can’t get u suspended or expelled…
    wrt the Ramsinghs…& myself when I openly opposed Ali’s sheit……they simply eliminate all communication with you…that’s what happened to Vinda Sr when he opposed Ali…….
    Hanif just got caught up in an unfortunate situation & Ali used that to eliminate him…again because Hanif disagreed with Ali’s dictatorial policies.
    .
    the Radha issue is the rabbit ears of it all……..or, is it the rabbit foot ???
    .
    don’t forget, TTASA is a public association, an NGO/NGB accountable for it’s actions & governed by a legal Constitution…that same document that Ali & Mangalsingh railroaded on 11Jul12…that lawyer present K.Ratiram said should not be tampered with…
    .
    I done getting a ’setta’ fone calls asking me not to rock the boat, FIA President coming just now, fix mih business within the Association,………..ALL B.S. when Ali could tell everybody Link tief to discredit my candidacy for elections….& think he could get away with that ?? I will expose everything
    .

  20. User avatar

    frustr8ed

    Jul 14th, 2012

    link wrote:
    frustr8ed wrote:
    But careful Link, you might get shooed away like Vinda and Vinny Ramsingh, or a suspension like Hannif Abrahim or expulsion like Radha for talking like that against Ali.

    the truth can’t get u suspended or expelled…
    wrt the Ramsinghs…& myself when I openly opposed Ali’s sheit……they simply eliminate all communication with you…that’s what happened to Vinda Sr when he opposed Ali…….
    Hanif just got caught up in an unfortunate situation & Ali used that to eliminate him…again because Hanif disagreed with Ali’s dictatorial policies.
    .
    the Radha issue is the rabbit ears of it all……..or, is it the rabbit foot ???
    .
    don’t forget, TTASA is a public association, an NGO/NGB accountable for it’s actions & governed by a legal Constitution…that same document that Ali & Mangalsingh railroaded on 11Jul12…that lawyer present K.Ratiram said should not be tampered with…
    .
    I done getting a ’setta’ fone calls asking me not to rock the boat, FIA President coming just now, fix mih business within the Association,………..ALL B.S. when Ali could tell everybody Link tief to discredit my candidacy for elections….& think he could get away with that ?? I will expose everything
    .

    excellent! all that everyone wants is the truth.

  21. User avatar

    link

    Jul 14th, 2012

    HondaHo de 1st wrote:
    Link…. no disrespect eh but i’ll try and put it simply….. the only way anyone INCLUDING MYSELF will ever join TTASA is if their entire and i mean their ENTIRE administration steps down and completely new blood is injected…. it is the only way….

    sorry bro..

    welll……
    that only means that u will stand outside the grocery always complaining yr hungry…BUT U ENT GOIN’ INSIDE TO FACE THE CASHIER
    .
    don’t be a coward like Ali………INVEST IN THE FUTURE OF MOTOR SPORTS IN T&T…join TTASA & be part of that investment…
    .
    otherwise….walk ah 1/4 mile to a fence & swan whole day trying to see something because ’somebody’ fraid to invest some $$$ to build spectator stands for yuh…
    & come on 2nr to complain ‘mosquito bite mih…grass tickle mih…sun bun mih…rain fall & mih muddy
    ..it’s all a joke….

  22. User avatar

    sMASH

    Jul 14th, 2012

    i really don’t understand how joining ttasa, giving them money, and letting ali see that the group attracting people would help solve the problem. when u inside, no matter how much u oppose, the management still does what they want, and the detractors are shunned, embarrassed, sidelined for exercising their right to criticize.

    when ur inside ttasa, how much change, or what kind of change were u able to acheive link, and u did have the weighty post of vice president?
    how much change can a normal member effect?

  23. User avatar

    Computerman

    Jul 14th, 2012

    link wrote:
    don’t forget, TTASA is a public association, an NGO/NGB accountable for it’s actions & governed by a legal Constitution…that same document that Ali & Mangalsingh railroaded on 11Jul12…that lawyer present K.Ratiram said should not be tampered with…

    TTASA is public? That is certainly news to me! If this is true then I can use the Freedom of Information Act to request the Audited Financials for the past 8 years! Can I Link?

    link wrote:
    don’t be a coward like Ali………INVEST IN THE FUTURE OF MOTOR SPORTS IN T&T…join TTASA & be part of that investment…

    Ok, now you’re just sounding like a ‘Used (Abused) Car’ salesman.

  24. User avatar

    dragaholic

    Jul 15th, 2012

    This is getting very interesting.

  25. User avatar

    RoTaRyBoYz

    Jul 15th, 2012

    Link, yuh remember what happened to Clint Huggins when he was singing like ah Canary.. Be careful Ali eh send ah squad for yuh arse :lol:

  26. User avatar

    link

    Jul 15th, 2012

    RoTaRyBoYz wrote:
    Link, yuh remember what happened to Clint Huggins when he was singing like ah Canary.. Be careful Ali eh send ah squad for yuh arse :lol:

    WELL……
    I don’t see myself bending down & touching mih toes anywhere in the near future without ’security’……..but I see enough of that from other ppl last wednesday…with ‘lollipop flavour’ too :lol: :lol:

  27. User avatar

    link

    Jul 15th, 2012

    Computerman wrote:
    link wrote:
    don’t forget, TTASA is a public association, an NGO/NGB accountable for it’s actions & governed by a legal Constitution…that same document that Ali & Mangalsingh railroaded on 11Jul12…that lawyer present K.Ratiram said should not be tampered with…

    TTASA is public? That is certainly news to me! If this is true then I can use the Freedom of Information Act to request the Audited Financials for the past 8 years! Can I Link?

    link wrote:
    don’t be a coward like Ali………INVEST IN THE FUTURE OF MOTOR SPORTS IN T&T…join TTASA & be part of that investment…

    Ok, now you’re just sounding like a ‘Used (Abused) Car’ salesman.

    Computerman…u surprise me…I thought from your posts that u at least had working knowledge of the organisation…don’t go pulling an ‘SR’ on me…ok?…(unless, of course, is YOU who buy his car from under him :wink: )

    YES, you can…….but the audited financials are all above board…don’t waste your time if u don’t have to…
    .
    the correct statement is: ‘Used &Abused) TTASA’ salesman
    :idea:

  28. User avatar

    link

    Jul 15th, 2012

    sMASH wrote:
    i really don’t understand how joining ttasa, giving them money, and letting ali see that the group attracting people would help solve the problem. when u inside, no matter how much u oppose, the management still does what they want, and the detractors are shunned, embarrassed, sidelined for exercising their right to criticize.

    when ur inside ttasa, how much change, or what kind of change were u able to acheive link, and u did have the weighty post of vice president?
    how much change can a normal member effect?

    ONE member is a drop in the barrel………WHO HAS THE INFLUENCE TO MOVE THE WHOLE BARREL ??
    Membership has power -TOGETHER- INSIDE- the only way to achieve honest, hardworking transparent Management committees is to be able to vote for same & be able to demand the accountability you are clamouring for……..
    ONLY TTASA MEMBERSHIP CAN DO THAT
    .

    Quote:
    ..don’t understand how joining ttasa, giving them money, and letting ali see that the group attracting people would help solve the problem. when u inside, no matter how much u oppose, the management still does what they want, and the detractors are shunned, embarrassed, sidelined for exercising their right to criticize.

    with few members, Ali can railroad them…don’t you all now realise that by telling ppl to join affiliate organisations, Ali maintained control of a ‘few’ members ?? EVERYBODY is entitled to be members of TTASA …IN ADDITION TO ANY OTHER ORGANISATION….
    The provision of the Constitution that prevents other motorsport organisation members from becoming Management members is there to prevent conflict-of-interest issues with those said motor sport organisations.
    .
    INVEST IN YOUR MOTOR SPORT FUTURE………or suffer the whiplash of autocracy (as u are experiencing)
    .
    rgds

  29. User avatar

    THE_FUGITIVES

    Jul 15th, 2012

    Now LINK saying join TTASA so one can make a change but YOU yourself just get kicked demoted for trying to do, maybe the right thing?, So do you mean if you did not ”Steal” the Money you could have make a difference? Ent All Members of the Past who tried to Oppose them including you, get thrown out for some blame, so anyone who joins now will just be blamed for some Ramdom Chuppidness like the rest, so why you Telling we To join eh.

    Supposing when they are Promoting a member to a higher post they spitefully put ‘’something” on them for blame purposes, so when there is exposure to their Evil doings they will just bring out Defensive ‘’something” which usually is a valuable like money. So ”Throw him out/Demote Him , he gone against plus he cant account for the ‘’something” ”

    As I say we need to advertise and make them popular like Kony lol and Link , You have alot of files to bust on them , you could probably assist to reveal them to the Public. hmmmmm

  30. User avatar

    tr1ad

    Jul 15th, 2012

    ammm i don’t think link was kicked out

    and since he singing songs, now you all willing to listen to the man?
    99% of you all fedup badtalk the man

  31. User avatar

    link

    Jul 15th, 2012

    THE_FUGITIVES wrote:
    Now LINK saying join TTASA so one can make a change but YOU yourself just get kicked demoted for trying to do, maybe the right thing?, So do you mean if you did not ”Steal” the Money you could have make a difference? Ent All Members of the Past who tried to Oppose them including you, get thrown out for some blame, so anyone who joins now will just be blamed for some Ramdom Chuppidness like the rest, so why you Telling we To join eh.

    Supposing when they are Promoting a member to a higher post they spitefully put ‘’something” on them for blame purposes, so when there is exposure to their Evil doings they will just bring out Defensive ‘’something” which usually is a valuable like money. So ”Throw him out/Demote Him , he gone against plus he cant account for the ‘’something” ”

    AGAIN I say we need to advertise and make them popular like Kony lol and Link , You have alot of files to bust on them , you could probably assist to reveal them to the Public. hmmmmm

    if ur on the outside, you know NOTHING & only post assumptions based on hearsay…
    I ALWAYS SAID ‘ANYONE CAN JOIN TTASA’. Ali used the development of the MSGC & the Affiliates to deliberately minimise the TTASA Membership so that he could manuipulate selected persons to support him……you all saw that on wednesday 11jul12…& commented also…
    .
    I have accounted for the ’something’ Ali & his manipulators publicised, but he buried the reports & still had AN INCORRECT AUDITOR’S REPORT READ TO MEMBERS AT THE AGM, DESPITE HAVING THE INFO IN WRITING WHICH VINDICATES ME. i WILL POST THAT LETTER i SENT TO TTASA IN DUE COURSE.
    .
    as I say to you…one individual CANNOT MAKE A DEFFERENCE…
    if you so want an accountable, bonafide National Governing Body, your calls are correct….GET RID OF THE ENTIRE TTASA MANAGEMENT & INSTALL FRESH BLOOD !!!………..but how do you do that ????….
    BY BECOMING A MEMBER OF TTASA, DEMANDING & UNDERSTANDING THE CONSTITUTION & VOTING FOR PROPER DEVELOPMENT & IMPROVMENT OF MOTOR SPORT IN T&T….

    .
    THE SAME HOLDS FOR THOSE ORGANISATIONS WHO ARE STANDING OUTSIDE & REFUSING TO BECOME AFFILIATED TO THE NGB………YOU CAN DO NOTHING ON THE OUTSIDE…….YOU HAVE SPENT..NO..WASTED…TWO YEARS ‘BLEATING’ ON THE OUTSIDE…BECAUSE YOU WANT TO SKIP STEP 1 & 2….
    #1 – BECOME AFFILIATED TO THE NGB
    #2 – ACHIEVE ORGANISATIONAL RECOGNITION FOR YOUR RESPECTIVE DISCIPLINE WITHIN THE MSGC
    #3 – MOVE TO FORMALISE FEDERATION STATUS
    nothing happens out of sequence & the longer you all take to get that through the thick skulls, the more difficult & stressful for motor racing development to prosper in T&T.
    GET IN & MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
    .
    THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT ALI DOSEN’T WANT TO HAPPEN.

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    THE_FUGITIVES

    Jul 15th, 2012

    word? hmmmmmm, cant wait to hear the more knowledgeable persons replys

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    Duane 3NE 2NR

    Jul 15th, 2012

    link wrote:
    THE_FUGITIVES wrote:
    Now LINK saying join TTASA so one can make a change but YOU yourself just get kicked demoted for trying to do, maybe the right thing?, So do you mean if you did not ”Steal” the Money you could have make a difference? Ent All Members of the Past who tried to Oppose them including you, get thrown out for some blame, so anyone who joins now will just be blamed for some Ramdom Chuppidness like the rest, so why you Telling we To join eh.

    Supposing when they are Promoting a member to a higher post they spitefully put ‘’something” on them for blame purposes, so when there is exposure to their Evil doings they will just bring out Defensive ‘’something” which usually is a valuable like money. So ”Throw him out/Demote Him , he gone against plus he cant account for the ‘’something” ”

    AGAIN I say we need to advertise and make them popular like Kony lol and Link , You have alot of files to bust on them , you could probably assist to reveal them to the Public. hmmmmm

    if ur on the outside, you know NOTHING & only post assumptions based on hearsay…
    I ALWAYS SAID ‘ANYONE CAN JOIN TTASA’. Ali used the development of the MSGC & the Affiliates to deliberately minimise the TTASA Membership so that he could manuipulate selected persons to support him……you all saw that on wednesday 11jul12…& commented also…
    .
    I have accounted for the ’something’ Ali & his manipulators publicised, but he buried the reports & still had AN INCORRECT AUDITOR’S REPORT READ TO MEMBERS AT THE AGM, DESPITE HAVING THE INFO IN WRITING WHICH VINDICATES ME. i WILL POST THAT LETTER i SENT TO TTASA IN DUE COURSE.
    .
    as I say to you…one individual CANNOT MAKE A DEFFERENCE…
    if you so want an accountable, bonafide National Governing Body, your calls are correct….GET RID OF THE ENTIRE TTASA MANAGEMENT & INSTALL FRESH BLOOD !!!………..but how do you do that ????….
    BY BECOMING A MEMBER OF TTASA, DEMANDING & UNDERSTANDING THE CONSTITUTION & VOTING FOR PROPER DEVELOPMENT & IMPROVMENT OF MOTOR SPORT IN T&T….

    .
    THE SAME HOLDS FOR THOSE ORGANISATIONS WHO ARE STANDING OUTSIDE & REFUSING TO BECOME AFFILIATED TO THE NGB………YOU CAN DO NOTHING ON THE OUTSIDE…….YOU HAVE SPENT..NO..WASTED…TWO YEARS ‘BLEATING’ ON THE OUTSIDE…BECAUSE YOU WANT TO SKIP STEP 1 & 2….
    #1 – BECOME AFFILIATED TO THE NGB
    #2 – ACHIEVE ORGANISATIONAL RECOGNITION FOR YOUR RESPECTIVE DISCIPLINE WITHIN THE MSGC
    #3 – MOVE TO FORMALISE FEDERATION STATUS
    nothing happens out of sequence & the longer you all take to get that through the thick skulls, the more difficult & stressful for motor racing development to prosper in T&T.
    GET IN & MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
    .
    THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT ALI DOSEN’T WANT TO HAPPEN.

    Link, I’m playing devil’s advocate here

    How does joining the MSGC effect change in TTASA? MSGC affiliates can’t vote in TTASA elections. Not so?

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    link

    Jul 15th, 2012

    Duane wrote:

    Quote:
    How does joining the MSGC effect change in TTASA? MSGC affiliates can’t vote in TTASA elections. Not so?

    WHY NOT ???
    Anyone who is a member of TTASA is entitled to vote in any TTASA meeting, be it Regular, Special or Annual General meeting.
    Just fill out the membership application form !!! TTASA’s Constitution does not exclude anyone from access to membership.
    .
    Why is this so difficult to understand ??
    .Refer to sections 24 & 25 of the TTASA Constitution, in part :

    24. CLUBS
    (a) Affiliated Club: a body engaged in motoring activities and affiliated to TTASA as a club to be affiliated. A club shall be required to comply with the requirements of TTASA as stated from time to time, a MANDATORY requirement being that the club seeking affiliation is a non-profit entity registered with the Ministry of Sport. TTASA reserves the right to grant, defer or refuse affiliation without stating any reason.

    (b) Voting Club: An affiliate Club which at the discretion of TTASA, has voting powers on the relevant Motor Sport General Council of TTASA. In the event of the membership of such a club, as shown in the annual declaration of membership, falling below twenty five (25) for any year, such club shall be reduced to non-voting status until such time as it again reaches twenty five (25) in any one year, in which case it shall forthwith be reclassified.

    (c) Non-Voting Club: An affiliate club which has the right to be represented and to debate at TTASA Motor Sport General Council meetings, but has no voting power.

    (d) Enthusiast Club:
    i. Each club affiliated with TTASA as an Enthusiast Club will be considered only as non-voting club at all times.
    ii. Associated Body: An association, federation, club or group of clubs which does not organize motor sporting events and whose members are generally members of TTASA, and which organization has an affinity with TTASA.
    Membership of such an organization shall not be bestow upon members membership
    of TTASA.

    (e) Recognized Body:
    An association, federation or other group of clubs etc; engaged in motoring activities and / or which has an integral role in the conduct of motor sport and to which TTASA may assign control of a part of motor sport.

    25. MOTOR SPORT GENERAL COUNCIL
    (a) Motor Sport General Council shall be elected within one month of the General Assembly of the TTASA which shall comprise of two (2) members of each affiliated club and two (2) members of the TTASA – one of these being the TTASA Competitions Chairman

    (b) If in the absence of or for any reason the Competitions Chairman is unable to fulfill his obligation as Chairman of the Motor Sport General Council, the Management Committee reserves the right to appoint a Chairman of the Motor Sport General Council.

    (c ) The Motor Sport General Council shall hold meetings every first Monday every three months ( or as often as may be deemed necessary), at the existing TTASA House, or a pre-arranged venue.

    (d) The Motor Sport General Council shall be the Tribunal responsible for disciplinary action towards any member of the affiliated clubs.

    (e) All affiliated clubs will be bound by the Constitution of the TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO AUTOMOBILE SPORTS ASSOCIATION and all affiliated clubs will pay an Annual Subscription Fee as determined by the TTASA from time to time.

    (f) All clubs or motoring bodies wishing to promote racing, rallying, speed trials, gymkahana or any form of speed and dexterity event or type of motor sport competition, must be an affiliate member of TTASA.

    (g). The proposed event must then be submitted to the T.T.A.S.A. Management for vetting . with regards to safety and compliance to the necessary rules and regulations and the . . laws of Trinidad and Tobago.

    this is the evolving section of the TTASA Constitution (not from the official version which , to my knowledge as at Tuesday 12jul12, has not yet been signed-off by the TTASA Trustees) that enables the MSGC.
    .
    why can’t all motor sport organisations take step 1 ?…this enables ALL motor sport organisations to come under the umbrella of the NGB & access resultant benefits.

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    RoTaRyBoYz

    Jul 15th, 2012

    Link, what if this is all a ploy to get people to join TTASA.. Next thing you and Ali setup thing whole thing get people to join, then in a few month allyuh men back together again.. I still finding it hard to believe that you have been publicly accused of "thiefin money" but yet you never file a defamation of character suit against Ali or anyone else that accused you..

    just my $.02 USD

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    nosfreak

    Jul 15th, 2012

    From all of this bacchanal [big understatement] looking from the outside in. I love T&T and its motorsport heritage. As much as I love it, it pains me to see that a bunch of power hungry, greedy and selfish misfits are running the show!
    How utterly disgusting!!! I’d expect to see this kinda thing in Parliament, but here too?!??! What the rasclat is this!!!!!
    With the upcoming elections, I hope that all of you in the TTASA do your part and oust these wicked parasites from sucking our sport dry!!!!!!

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    nosfreak

    Jul 15th, 2012

    RoTaRyBoYz wrote:
    Link, what if this is all a ploy to get people to join TTASA.. Next thing you and Ali setup thing whole thing get people to join, then in a few month allyuh men back together again.. I still finding it hard to believe that you have been publicly accused of "thiefin money" but yet you never file a defamation of character suit against Ali or anyone else that accused you..

    just my $.02 USD

    Well, one must wonder what is the truth?
    Link, I want you to scan those docs and post the links on this forum FOR EVERYONE TO SEE. I do not endorse you calling people out without showing us the proof. And no, I’m not calling you. I just want to see with my own two eyes and then FULLY judge this unfortunate thing called the TTASA for myself, without having to be swayed by opinions and complaints!!!!
    And in case you’re wondering, no, I’m not a member [nor will I ever be if this keeps up], nor am I a sympathiser. Just a guy seeking the truth from the banter.

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    sMASH

    Jul 15th, 2012

    me eh seekin no truth, i doh care who thief what. what i interested in is the disbanding and the dissolution of ttasa as is.

    so let me get this straight, join ttasa, get voting status, and vote in new management.

    how long must a person be in ttasa to get voting status?
    all what must be done to be eligible to vote?
    how long must a person be in ttasa to be able to contest president or any other management post?
    if an affiliate club gets voting status, does it have one vote or does each member of that affiliate club vote for people?
    i only voting for some one that cadiz recommends.

    i smelling a rat or something fishy, but as an operator, i consider all avenues with adequate extrapolation.
    waiting on the demise of ttasa by natural means would be quite long. hoping for the intervention of government to remove NGB status may be futile. any legal action to demonstrate that ttasa not fit to hold NGB status may be impossible.

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    Waterholic's

    Jul 15th, 2012

    Pass by the track today for drags and haven’t seen anything. Couldn’t even find the place where they so called "bulldozed". Some TTASA

  40. User avatar

    link

    Jul 15th, 2012

    nosfreak wrote:
    RoTaRyBoYz wrote:
    Link, what if this is all a ploy to get people to join TTASA.. Next thing you and Ali setup thing whole thing get people to join, then in a few month allyuh men back together again.. I still finding it hard to believe that you have been publicly accused of "thiefin money" but yet you never file a defamation of character suit against Ali or anyone else that accused you..

    just my $.02 USD

    Well, one must wonder what is the truth?
    Link, I want you to scan those docs and post the links on this forum FOR EVERYONE TO SEE. I do not endorse you calling people out without showing us the proof. And no, I’m not calling you. I just want to see with my own two eyes and then FULLY judge this unfortunate thing called the TTASA for myself, without having to be swayed by opinions and complaints!!!!
    And in case you’re wondering, no, I’m not a member [nor will I ever be if this keeps up], nor am I a sympathiser. Just a guy seeking the truth from the banter.

    well guys…
    I am NOT scanning 7 posting anything until I’ve presented same at the August regular monthly meeting of TTASA. There I will demand answers, apologies & retribution…..then I will post said documents.
    I suggest you get a copy of the TTASA Constitution & familarise yourselves with it…if u want to

    Quote:
    see with my own two eyes and then FULLY judge this unfortunate thing called the TTASA for myself

    .

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    Victory_Specification

    Jul 16th, 2012

    sigh. I just want somewhere to race :(

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    crazybalhead

    Jul 16th, 2012

    This is all highly suspect. Crying down the current management, then quoting constitution that says everything "is at the discretion of TTASA", and then encouraging affiliate clubs to join? Be the change from within? But there is no within, just without.

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    THE_FUGITIVES

    Jul 16th, 2012

    Allyuh need to see the Movie ‘Five Fingers” , feel thats what happening here with Link lol

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    HondaHo de 1st

    Jul 16th, 2012

    link wrote:
    HondaHo de 1st wrote:
    Link…. no disrespect eh but i’ll try and put it simply….. the only way anyone INCLUDING MYSELF will ever join TTASA is if their entire and i mean their ENTIRE administration steps down and completely new blood is injected…. it is the only way….

    sorry bro..

    welll……
    that only means that u will stand outside the grocery always complaining yr hungry…BUT U ENT GOIN’ INSIDE TO FACE THE CASHIER
    .
    don’t be a coward like Ali………INVEST IN THE FUTURE OF MOTOR SPORTS IN T&T…join TTASA & be part of that investment…
    .
    otherwise….walk ah 1/4 mile to a fence & swan whole day trying to see something because ’somebody’ fraid to invest some $$$ to build spectator stands for yuh…
    & come on 2nr to complain ‘mosquito bite mih…grass tickle mih…sun bun mih…rain fall & mih muddy
    ..it’s all a joke….

    Link, i understand the point you’re trying to make here, but as long as Ali there NO ONE’S VOICE will be heard. I mean look at what he did to John Powell… the fact is the only way TTASA can become anything positive is ALI and present administration must be replaced

  45. User avatar

    link

    Jul 16th, 2012

    HondaHo de 1st wrote:
    link wrote:
    HondaHo de 1st wrote:
    Link…. no disrespect eh but i’ll try and put it simply….. the only way anyone INCLUDING MYSELF will ever join TTASA is if their entire and i mean their ENTIRE administration steps down and completely new blood is injected…. it is the only way….

    sorry bro..

    welll……
    that only means that u will stand outside the grocery always complaining yr hungry…BUT U ENT GOIN’ INSIDE TO FACE THE CASHIER
    .
    don’t be a coward like Ali………INVEST IN THE FUTURE OF MOTOR SPORTS IN T&T…join TTASA & be part of that investment…
    .
    otherwise….walk ah 1/4 mile to a fence & swan whole day trying to see something because ’somebody’ fraid to invest some $$$ to build spectator stands for yuh…
    & come on 2nr to complain ‘mosquito bite mih…grass tickle mih…sun bun mih…rain fall & mih muddy
    ..it’s all a joke….

    Link, i understand the point you’re trying to make here, but as long as Ali there NO ONE’S VOICE will be heard. I mean look at what he did to John Powell… the fact is the only way TTASA can become anything positive is ALI and present administration must be replaced

    it’s a sham management…
    only 18 members eligible to vote according to the Constitution…& mangalsingh tells members to ignore the Constitution, illegally vote in a management without a quorum of voters, have ali’s chorus group shout down anybody who dares object…
    and to top it off…
    ali says he will be a ‘good, honest, transparent president’ ???
    .
    more to come …in single doses…

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    pete

    Jul 16th, 2012

    ^^ You moving like the People’s Partnership? :lol:

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    RoTaRyBoYz

    Jul 16th, 2012

    ^ He moving like Ramesh :lol:

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    SR

    Jul 16th, 2012

    aye aye
    when ali was not president the then secretary use to send me all the info of what was going on in ttasa to post up here……….from email to phone calls

    any comments on this link

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    Rallyfignis

    Jul 16th, 2012

    good thing this was about the track being built eh…

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    link

    Jul 16th, 2012

    SR wrote:
    aye aye
    when ali was not president the then secretary use to send me all the info of what was going on in ttasa to post up here……….from email to phone calls

    any comments on this link

    i think you should ask the ‘then’ secretary……..but call name nah….if u have the ‘kahonas’……

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