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Abraham2nd
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:12 am 
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Help me please.
my carb need to pump gas to start... (no need to hold pedal just push it)
i have reason to believe its the automatic choke or its wiring..can u please tell me how to adjust it and how to see if its wired properly??.
BTW! IT idles kinda high when cold.. for about 5 or so mins...
please help :( :( :(


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Abraham2nd
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:48 pm 
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bump please help


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cinco
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what?
that is normal operation


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Abraham2nd
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 4:23 pm 
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noooooooo.. ;(
when i buy it used to start without touching gas....ALWAYS!


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Abraham2nd
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:37 pm 
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ohh.. and it NEVER idled fast just normal :O


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supercharged turbo
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:43 pm 
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Does it idle high and then come down to normal idle after the engine gets hot?


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Richard Marshall
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:18 pm 
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Carb type and vehicle/engine?


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Abraham2nd
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:01 am 
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b13 engine/carb
and yes, it does come back to normal when warm/hot..


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cinco
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:04 pm 
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have u ever serviced the carb?
change yuh fuel filter?
change yuh fuel pump?


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Abraham2nd
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:30 pm 
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yeah. did dat arreddy
but mechanic said fuel pump good.. i also checked...pull hose off and tumble...gas came out good..
i just really want my car to start without touching gas pedal ;( i really miss it ;(
i NEED to do this in order for my remote start to work proper.. lol im installing remote start next week ;(


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Abraham2nd
PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:53 am 
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UPDATE: I adjusted my choke works a LITTLE better..it DOESNT stall anymore :D YAY!!!! BUT...it idles MORE HIGH when just started and then press gas it lows down just a bit..i dont know where the step cam is to adjust it. i think thats it...but from the looks of it..when it gets hot the butterfly opens... which it should...but when the car shuts off and the car colds.... butterfly remains open.. and is STUCK..tried pulling it gently and its litterally STUCK! UNLESS the trottle is pushed/pulled and u hear a noise by carb like a click and the butterfly closes(behind carb underneth like the sound comes from.)...basically i think something isnt making the butterfly close back idk what it could be please help me..at least were getting somewhere!! :D my theory is that something sticking the thing to pull back the butterfly spring ;(


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Sanjstar
PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:41 am 
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Thats normal for carbs.....when the engine gets cold the butterfly wont close by itself....you need to prime your gas pedal and it will flick back to the closed position as well as fill the carb with gas to start....once the engine is heated up...the choke will expand and open back the butterfly once the engine has reached ideal temperature for combustion.....most manuals suggest that you prime you carb before starting....


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Abraham2nd
PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:17 pm 
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hey...so what makes it start without priming it? my car used to prime itself. NO tumble... just bounce and drive! :(


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Sanjstar
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:48 pm 
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Maybe your carb is different...i had another carb car that didn need to prime (still dont't know why).....when the engine gets cold the butterfly closes automatically....maybe the link to flick back the butterfly was disconnected....messing with carbs are trickey....that remote start thing wont be a good idea with a carb engine...what you can do is try different heat range spark plugs but i wont reccomend that if you car works good....i had iridiumR5 sparks and the car used to start in one bounce....try not to mess with your air to fuel ratio ( although it helps)...if it doesn't work then forget that remote start....that will be headache unless your engine is already all warmed.up :cry:


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Abraham2nd
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:14 pm 
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yea sad ting is that i already got a remote system lOLOLOL
BTW~
i do believe that too..something got slip out to flip back butterfly dunno what :(


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Abraham2nd
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:40 pm 
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UPDATE: need i mention that when its cold and the butterfly IS OPEN AND STUCK, CANT move it..unless gas pedal is pushed ;(


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:54 pm 
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Try spraying by the butterfly with some carb cleaner.Then press ur gas pedal a few times and respray some more carb cleaner.


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Abraham2nd
PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:17 am 
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Hey as soon as i just TOUCH the pedal theres a click and the choke is engaged... but if i dont.. the butterfly is VERY STUCK...
have an OLD siezed up one home and the butterfly isnt stuck ;O


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Sanjstar
PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:25 am 
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I dont think its stuck though.....i think thats how it was designed..the choke is engaged when you pump the pedal..i will varify why i said so when i find the link...do some research to see if u can disconnect that link that leaves the butterfly open.


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Abraham2nd
PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:46 am 
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UPDATE::: TWO THINGS!
ONE: I said to myself wonder if i throw gas in carb instead..and see if it starts... i took the trottle link where the accelerator pump is and then push it down without letting the choke and butterfly fly back and it squirts gas into hole..the car started but it died a lil after and it didnt really idled high it kinda like was rough maybe how butterfly was waay open lol but my theory for that was somehow after car sitting the gas in the throat of carb somehow drains back somewhere???? so it has to pump(refill) back in order to start...any ideas on how to fix this?

NUMBER TWO!!! i took the choke assembly out this morning and i see what was holding back the butterfly...when the pedal pressed theres something that flys back with it..but the grooves look like it didnt alighn ...soo i pulled the throttle and pushed the thing at the back and it fit good.. now i can open and close butterfly..ill need to verify this in the morning when its cold though.. btw(car didnt race high after doing this :O) lol
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Sanjstar
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nice....will like to know if it worked man


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Abraham2nd
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:52 am 
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OMGOMG!!!!! IT WORKS!!!!!!
i took out the air filter so i can look at the butterfly and it WAS CLOSED!!!!
so i said hmm...wonder if it would start boy!!!
I put my keys in and Voila bounce and start..(not one but 3bounce LOL) !!!
BUT ONE THING... it idled very poor.. didnt cut off though so that was good.... i gotta see how to raise idle when cold and adjust that tomorrow morning :) any ideas how?
Ill keep u guys POsted!! :D


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skylinechild
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Abraham2nd wrote:
OMGOMG!!!!! IT WORKS!!!!!!
i took out the air filter so i can look at the butterfly and it WAS CLOSED!!!!
so i said hmm...wonder if it would start boy!!!
I put my keys in and Voila bounce and start..(not one but 3bounce LOL) !!!
BUT ONE THING... it idled very poor.. didnt cut off though so that was good.... i gotta see how to raise idle when cold and adjust that tomorrow morning :) any ideas how?
Ill keep u guys POsted!! :D


makin progress man...that's good...so because I tell u my car hav a remote start feature u gone an install that too..... :lol: ..damn ricers....


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Abraham2nd
PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:00 pm 
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EVEN AFTER 3 days sitting it starts without touching gas!!!
:THUMBS UP: YAY!!
BUT
it idles kinda poor when just started any ideas? but it idles good after..


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Leave it alone.You done get de one bounce start


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Sundar
PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:24 pm 
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carb works on the "venturi principle" (think i spell that correct) , then readup how a carb works.... you'll understand alot more. like the fuel bowl level and d plunger(wen u open d throttle n lil gas spray down d throat).


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