XTRAIL HUMBUG

arton · Postby **arton** » March 22nd, 2008, 12:16 pm

QR20DE, 06,000km,
After engine overheated,and thermostats changed,ran well for 1week,
then stalled. symptoms: fuel& temp guages hunting ,engine will idle but will not accelerate .After three diagnostics, and several part changes,
including ECU, trottle body,pedal sensor, still no progress.Any suggestions welcomed.

Big Z · Postby **Big Z** » March 22nd, 2008, 12:44 pm

Electrical gremlins especially if your fuel gauge hunting....
Check your wires, fuses... anything electrical where ever the mechanic was around.

Postby **Karim Khan** » March 22nd, 2008, 1:36 pm

IS this a foreign Used or Local X trail ?

arton · Postby **arton** » March 24th, 2008, 8:44 am

Foreign; is there a significant difference?

arton · Postby **arton** » March 24th, 2008, 8:45 am

Foreign; is there a significant difference?

Big Z · Postby **Big Z** » March 24th, 2008, 10:50 am

Yup... the price

Postby **Karim Khan** » March 24th, 2008, 11:49 am

Arton, yes there is a significant differance. Which is the Warranty on the vehicle, those problems you mentioned there are significant. It could be a Manufactures defect . IF it was a local you could have carried it back to the dealership and let them fight up wiht the problem. i know Massy does wood you wiht price, but some times its worth it cause look how much money you spent buying parts that did not solve the problem , and i know X trail parts arent cheap .

on the other hand, this is the chances people take when buying a used vehicle, you never know what "baggage"/problems that comes along with it.

the best thing to do right about now is take out the QR20 and put ion either a QR25 OR SR 20 turbo for the X trail and your problems should be solved.

as they say if it giving trouble then get rid of it

let us know when you slove the problem and what was the cause.

IDRC · Postby **IDRC** » March 27th, 2008, 12:24 pm

My X Trail parked up waiting on a engine right now. Head gasket blow, happens too easy in the QR20's

arton · Postby **arton** » April 3rd, 2008, 5:15 pm

We are back to the computer, does anyone have, or knows where there is a used computer? Let me hear from you, soonest.

QG · Postby QG » April 3rd, 2008, 8:16 pm

I agree with tintman, but if you're looking for a used computer check the motorists

arton · Postby **arton** » April 4th, 2008, 2:00 am

Where and how do I find the motorists?

Postby **Karim Khan** » April 4th, 2008, 10:41 am

Look in the phone book , you will find the motorist. I not to sure if they could help you, but still try!

You could always check around in the bamboo...

but the way is machenic that is dealing with the problem ?

QG · Postby QG » April 12th, 2008, 2:33 pm

Or just check any car parts place, u most get one.

Tired Accord · Postby **Tired Accord** » April 17th, 2008, 2:58 am

IDRC wrote:My X Trail parked up waiting on a engine right now. Head gasket blow, happens too easy in the QR20's

"The phuckk ??!! :shock:

****Runs off to check radiator coolant level in Xtrail (with 10,000km on it)**** :shock:

irishbadlad · Postby **irishbadlad** » April 29th, 2008, 9:05 am

Yo bro i have mine five years now and i had that problem ah ready.

The fuel pump and filter is in the gas tank and when this gets real dirty or rusted the engine fails.It will not be able to be read from a diagnostic either.

By the way I blew a head gasket about a year ago and I put bck in the thermostat cos without it the sensors in the engine tend to go berserk when running hot.

if you go on www.nissanforums.com and go in to xtrail icon and look at sitye.type in search fuel pump in tank you should see what i'm talking about.
I changed the fuel pump cos water from our gas(bad gas) screwed it to the wall and since then I'm flying with it.

Hope this helps.

Tired Accord · Postby **Tired Accord** » April 30th, 2008, 6:49 am

irishbadlad wrote:Yo bro i have mine five years now and i had that problem ah ready.

The fuel pump and filter is in the gas tank and when this gets real dirty or rusted the engine fails.It will not be able to be read from a diagnostic either.

By the way I blew a head gasket about a year ago and I put bck in the thermostat cos without it the sensors in the engine tend to go berserk when running hot.

if you go on www.nissanforums.com and go in to xtrail icon and look at sitye.type in search fuel pump in tank you should see what i'm talking about.
I changed the fuel pump cos water from our gas(bad gas) screwed it to the wall and since then I'm flying with it.

Hope this helps.

At what mileage the vehicle was when you changed the fuel pump, and also when you blew the head gasket?

irishbadlad · Postby **irishbadlad** » May 1st, 2008, 12:59 pm

I got the 2001 xtrail foreign used in 2003.I had it for about a year so in 2004 i changed the fuel pump due to our great trini gas :oops:

and then I changed the head gasket in late 2006 cos the thermostat failed.

When i got it the vehicle was doing 15000KMS.So I assume by 35000KMs is when I had the fuel pump difficulty.

The head gasket problem I think i was doing about 65000Kms.

You also have to take in to consideration that I got a 2001 Xtrail in 2003 so it had done some miles using great gas and the best diagnostic maintanence machines and mechanics.

My mechanics put back a copper sprayed gasket so that it could take our heat down here including the heat of the engine.

Since then I hav had no problems and I love the xtrail.

Hope this helps.

I have joined the www.nissanforums.com forum and these guys are veterans in the feild of engines and parts etc of the xtrail and any nissan vehicle depending on your type whether it be skyline,sentra,blubird etc..

So take a look at what they have said and any questions you want answered.

Just the other day the Universal cross on the drive shaft was starting to go and i went to Neal and massy and they had the whole shaft for sale. :roll:

I went to a machine shop and got a 323 rear wheel drive cross to work and the machinist installed grease nipples on both of them so i can maintain the levels of grease since the original ones didnt have.

For about $700TT (the Cost of a used complete drive shaft in the bamboo) I have new Universal Joints(crosses) and my drive shaft is installed and i have the use of the 4x4 and the drive shaft is working great.

I hope this helps

snogz · Postby **snogz** » August 28th, 2008, 2:46 pm

Hey fellas, I'm looking for a QR25 head and block or a complete QR20 engine for my xtrail. Can someone pleeeeeeeeaaaaaassseee help

6869100
sNOGZ

yam-e · Postby **yam-e** » April 2nd, 2009, 10:40 pm

arton wrote:QR20DE, 06,000km,
After engine overheated,and thermostats changed,ran well for 1week,
then stalled. symptoms: fuel& temp guages hunting ,engine will idle but will not accelerate .After three diagnostics, and several part changes,
including ECU, trottle body,pedal sensor, still no progress.Any suggestions welcomed.

call me 336-4116after 9am

samdam · Postby **samdam** » July 18th, 2009, 1:17 pm

MY X-TRAIL I HAVE CHANGED THE QR20DE ENGINE.MY RADIATOR HAD A HOLE AN THE ENGINE OVER HEAT.

7143 · Postby **7143** » July 18th, 2009, 1:55 pm

horse your better option is to change the engine and them rewire it back from scratch.....

cjawahir · Postby **cjawahir** » July 18th, 2009, 6:50 pm

arton, is this the black ecu with two plug or is it the silver ECU with single gray plug ?

and tell me the fault code .

cj

whizzard · Postby **whizzard** » January 26th, 2012, 12:45 pm

Sorry for resurrecting a dinosaur, but are the problems described here (head gasket problem, etc.) common issues with this vehicle? Seriously considering one, but don't want to make a purchase I may regret.

Thanks in advance.

hong kong phooey · Postby **hong kong phooey** » February 7th, 2012, 6:08 am

Simple solution put in an external water temp gauge, sensor on the engine block and this way u can see the temp of the engine. The external temperature sensors have alarm set point . The digtal gauge is crap and you dont see the little light.

irishbadlad · Postby **irishbadlad** » April 19th, 2012, 11:04 pm

looking for an alternator for a QR20 alternator or where I can find the replacement Internal bearing for the alternator and pls do not tell me N&M or the Motorist cos these are rip off artists..

yam-e · Postby **yam-e** » April 21st, 2012, 6:19 pm

Call me ah ah have one......336-4116

buckmillan · Postby **buckmillan** » May 2nd, 2012, 1:19 pm

My QR 20 engine cylinder head has already been shaved, And still the cylinder gasket has blown. I'm currently looking for a replacement engine. Can anyone help please call 325-4867.

Ted_v2 · Postby **Ted_v2** » May 2nd, 2012, 4:23 pm

heard you can use the sr20 ve and the vet

they can work with ease, the sport model xtrail came with the vet so its not a cut and fit type install

just bolt for bolt

irishbadlad · Postby **irishbadlad** » May 3rd, 2012, 10:00 am

There is a tuner scrapping an xtrail with engine on tuner so check him..all you need is the block

GAP · Postby **GAP** » November 6th, 2013, 10:05 pm

When the QR 20 blows a gasket, you would need to shave the head and block. A friend was working on a Nissan Serina with a QR20 and the vehicle overheated, he shaved the head and it blew the gasket within a week, he then did the head and block and the problem went away.

Once you shave head and block you are good to go, but the setback is scrapping an engine to shave both sections costs, also who wants to take pistons out and put back the same old rings, same with main and rod bearings, it is best to do a full overhaul.The Rings alone if you can get it is TTD 15-1800 TTD main bearings around 15-2000 TTD rod bearings, around 900 TTD. and you have not ordered the full overhaul kit as yet( ????). It may be cheaper to buy a used engine and slip it in. However on e-bay you can get a rebuild kit std rings, main and rod bearings and full gasked set for as little as USD 160.00. with shipping at $40.00 USD verses TTD 7-8K locally for all parts combined.

I have a Cefiro JK 200 (Local) , got it back in 2005 it was 2 1/2 years old when I got it and it had 80,000 kms on the clock. The first thing I did was to change the crappy single core Nissan radiator and put in dual core metal unit. this made a difference. I also changed the crank censor's one year after I got it and changed 4 wheel bearings at year 4, changed frond bushings in year 4 changed one alternator at year 4 and four engine mounts year 5 also had to change the stupid valve cover as the spark plug tube seals cannot be changed so the whole cover needs to be changed, massy is 3k and gasket is $250.00 E-bay you can get it at 107.00 USD and shipping is $50.00USD.

I am now at 240,000 kms and only today the head gasket blew, I got a mis-fire yesterday with no overheating sign's ( I also have a tenp guage Installed one year after i bought the car because I do not like the blue and red indicator on the dash, a poor system.) So my eye is always on the guage, but no physical signs to warn me, it just happened, mis-fire first then overheating the next day. You would think overheating first and then mis-firing!!!!!!!!!.

The Guage gives an acurate reading so it easy to know what temp the engine is always at. Funny though, when the car starts cold it idles normally when the temprature is under 80 deg c, once you get to 100-120 deg c this mis starts.

So my Qr20 after 240,000 kms and 8 years of running seems okay up till yesterday, but with all the measures took the head gasked did it things without warning. Unfortunately the QR20 once working at peak works well, not a quick performer in the J31 chassis, but runs smooth and fairly quiet.

JK 200 is a nice car but Nissan should have stuck to the SR concept just like the L series and the RB, thes acts are hard to beat.