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ronaldinho gaucho
 Post subject: Need help with my system
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:04 pm 
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so far i have
2 eight inch eminence alpha
1 1600 power acoustik 4 channel amplifier
1 boss cx3500 class d amplifier
1 pioneer champion series subwoofer 3500 watts peak

going n buy two bullet tweeters and 2 6inch alpha
need help with which crossover n pre amp to buy,must be reasonable price,any other ideas will be good as well


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speedmelter
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:40 pm 
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get a good pioneer deck, mayb the new usb ones and a preamp.. dont think u would need a crossover.


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ronaldinho gaucho
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:47 pm 
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i was wondering if i actually need a pre amp n a crossover


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speedmelter
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:56 pm 
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yea what deck do u have at the moment? a pre amp would be very useful and almost necessary


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:11 pm 
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Yea I think speedmelter has said it just as I would. From your equipment, I think just a preamp will be necessary here and don't hold back on the $$$ for your headunit.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:16 pm 
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speedmelter wrote:
yea what deck do u have at the moment? a pre amp would be very useful and almost necessary


do elaborate why.


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ronaldinho gaucho
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:30 pm 
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the deck i have is a normal cd pioneer deck


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nervewrecker
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:43 pm 
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ronaldinho gaucho wrote:
the deck i have is a normal cd pioneer deck


different models have different features. A model will help us a bit in giving advice.

basic units are just basic units, more advanced one will have fancy display, adjustable high and low pass crossovers, equalizers (not the shiddy 3 band stuff), 4 volt pre outs, probably USB and maybe bluetooth.
No need for a preamp with such a deck.


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speedmelter
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:16 pm 
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yea if the pre outs are 3 way i believe they call it u wont need a preamp. i think you should sell the deck you have and get a nice usb one that can save you the $ to spend on a preamp and cross.. u cud even use the power of the deck to play dem tweeters so u wont hada worry abt burning them. the pioneer usb ones are like from 9 to 1200.. you cant go wrong wid a good deck, itl hold its value and prob make that lil system look and sound much better than a shitty one with preamp. u have decent amps and speakers so just get a nice deck and u good to go.. and by nice i dont mean those flashy dvd shet decks like soundstream and pyrimid


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speedmelter
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:20 pm 
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or nervewrecker i was saying itl prob be necessary depending on what kinda outputs the deck has... hence the question


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nervewrecker wrote:
ronaldinho gaucho wrote:
the deck i have is a normal cd pioneer deck


different models have different features. A model will help us a bit in giving advice.

basic units are just basic units, more advanced one will have fancy display, adjustable high and low pass crossovers, equalizers (not the shiddy 3 band stuff), 4 volt pre outs, probably USB and maybe bluetooth.
No need for a preamp with such a deck
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This should have been your starting point OP


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speedmelter wrote:
yea if the pre outs are 3 way i believe they call it u wont need a preamp. i think you should sell the deck you have and get a nice usb one that can save you the $ to spend on a preamp and cross

Don't tell the guy to look for a nice usb deck. There are usb decks for all $800 that are basic and have 2 volt pre-outs.

Instead, the OP should look for a headunit that has 4 volt pre-outs, regardless of whether or not it can play usb.


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speedmelter
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:07 am 
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BrotherHood wrote:
speedmelter wrote:
yea if the pre outs are 3 way i believe they call it u wont need a preamp. i think you should sell the deck you have and get a nice usb one that can save you the $ to spend on a preamp and cross

Don't tell the guy to look for a nice usb deck. There are usb decks for all $800 that are basic and have 2 volt pre-outs.

Instead, the OP should look for a headunit that has 4 volt pre-outs, regardless of whether or not it can play usb.


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BrotherHood
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:04 am 
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^^ Wa went on dey ? :?




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speedmelter
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:11 am 
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^^yea it made sense what you said.. think he has enough info now to handle his story


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BrotherHood
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:21 pm 
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^^Cool bruh.


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I wonder where can he get such a deck on such short notice?


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ronaldinho gaucho wrote:
so far i have
2 eight inch eminence alpha
1 1600 power acoustik 4 channel amplifier
1 boss cx3500 class d amplifier
1 pioneer champion series subwoofer 3500 watts peak

going n buy two bullet tweeters and 2 6inch alpha
need help with which crossover n pre amp to buy,must be reasonable price,any other ideas will be good as well


what a system.....


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Ted_v2
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:12 pm 
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crossovers are around 650 or so
basic usb decks are around 800-900

so around 1500 for that combo

you could get a pretty good usb deck with a built in crossover setup for around 1200 and get the ease of having one less equipment (crossover)


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ronaldinho gaucho
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:40 pm 
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presently i have a small battery (525 amps),what size of battery should i look for in addition to the present one ?


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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:43 pm 
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sound boy 64 wrote:
crossovers are around 650 or so
basic usb decks are around 800-900

so around 1500 for that combo

you could get a pretty good usb deck with a built in crossover setup for around 1200 and get the ease of having one less equipment (crossover)


he should have clicked the link in my sig and be happy. but he too late, deck gone.


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ronaldinho gaucho
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 9:21 am 
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if working with a limited budget,is it better to get a cheap pre amp or a cheap crossover ?


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speedmelter
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 12:46 pm 
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man just get a preamp for abt 300 dollars.. the soundstream or power acoustic. forget abt crossover, the crossover on the amps will have to suffice for ur situation. the deck u got duz it have RCA outputs?


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if you got to go with a preamp go with the soundstream 5xo over the normal pwm20 and such

they have a lot more line drive and the quality is better Imo


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the pwm 20 should work fine and its easy to use and tune


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ronaldinho gaucho
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 5:57 pm 
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so is a pre amp and a crossover necessary in your system ?


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speedmelter
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ronaldinho gaucho wrote:
so is a pre amp and a crossover necessary in your system ?


man have u been reading the comments?

a pre amp serves the purpose of sending 4 volt signals to the amps and provide a little volume control of the frequency ranges.
the crossover reconstitutes the signal sent into bandwidths so that each speaker can play desired freq ranges....

if you cant afford the deck that serves both those functions ur alternative wud be to use the crossover on the amp and buy a preamp. just buy the preamp and later on you can mayb buy other stuff.


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