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NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby SmokeyGTi » September 4th, 2012, 1:01 pm

Yup,
The world's oldest working spacecraft is leaving the solar system after 35 years!
How cool is that?

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Thirty-five years after leaving Earth, Voyager 1 is reaching for the stars.

Sooner or later, the workhorse spacecraft will bid adieu to the solar system and enter a new realm of space -- the first time a manmade object will have escaped to the other side.

Perhaps no one on Earth will relish the moment more than 76-year-old Ed Stone, who has toiled on the project from the start.

"We're anxious to get outside and find what's out there," he said.

When NASA's Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 first rocketed out of Earth's grip in 1977, no one knew how long they would live. Now, they are the longest-operating spacecraft in history and the most distant, at billions of miles from Earth but in different directions.

Wednesday marks the 35th anniversary of Voyager 1's launch to Jupiter and Saturn. It is now flitting around the fringes of the solar system, which is enveloped in a giant plasma bubble. This hot and turbulent area is created by a stream of charged particles from the sun.

Outside the bubble is a new frontier in the Milky Way -- the space between stars. Once it plows through, scientists expect a calmer environment by comparison.

When that would happen is anyone's guess. Voyager 1 is in uncharted celestial territory. One thing is clear: The boundary that separates the solar system and interstellar space is near, but it could take days, months or years to cross that milestone.

Voyager 1 is currently more than 11 billion miles from the sun. Twin Voyager 2, which celebrated its launch anniversary two weeks ago, trails behind at 9 billion miles from the sun.

They're still ticking despite being relics of the early Space Age.

Each only has 68 kilobytes of computer memory. To put that in perspective, the smallest iPod -- an 8-gigabyte iPod Nano -- is 100,000 times more powerful.

Each also has an eight-track tape recorder. Today's spacecraft use digital memory.

The Voyagers' original goal was to tour Jupiter and Saturn, and they sent back postcards of Jupiter's big red spot and Saturn's glittery rings. They also beamed home a torrent of discoveries: erupting volcanoes on the Jupiter moon Io; hints of an ocean below the icy surface of Europa, another Jupiter moon; signs of methane rain on the Saturn moon Titan.

Voyager 2 then journeyed to Uranus and Neptune. It remains the only spacecraft to fly by these two outer planets. Voyager 1 used Saturn as a gravitational slingshot to catapult itself toward the edge of the solar system.

"Time after time, Voyager revealed unexpected -- kind of counterintuitive -- results, which means we have a lot to learn," said Stone, Voyager's chief scientist and a professor of physics at the California Institute of Technology.

These days, a handful of engineers diligently listen for the Voyagers from a satellite campus not far from the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory, which built the spacecraft.

The control room, with its cubicles and carpeting, could be mistaken for an insurance office if not for a blue sign overhead that reads "Mission Controller" and a warning on a computer: "Voyager mission critical hardware. Please do not touch!" There are no full-time scientists left on the mission, but 20 part-timers analyze the data streamed back. Since the spacecraft are so far out, it takes 17 hours for a radio signal from Voyager 1 to travel to Earth. For Voyager 2, it takes about 13 hours.

Cameras aboard the Voyagers were turned off long ago. The nuclear-powered spacecraft, about the size of a subcompact car, still have five instruments to study magnetic fields, cosmic rays and charged particles from the sun known as solar wind. They also carry gold-plated discs containing multilingual greetings, music and pictures -- in the off chance that intelligent species come across them.

Since 2004, Voyager 1 has been exploring a region in the bubble at the solar system's edge where the solar wind dramatically slows and heats up. Over the last several months, scientists have seen changes that suggest Voyager 1 is on the verge of crossing over.

When it does, it will be the first spacecraft to explore between the stars. Space observatories such as the Hubble and Spitzer space telescopes have long peered past the solar system, but they tend to focus on far-away galaxies.

As ambitious as the Voyager mission is, it was scaled down from a plan to send a quartet of spacecraft to Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto in what was billed as the "grand tour" of the solar system. But the plan was nixed, and scientists settled for the Voyager mission.

American University space policy expert Howard McCurdy said it turned out to be a boon.

They "took the funds and built spacecraft robust enough to visit all four gas giants and keep communicating" beyond the solar system, McCurdy said.

The double missions so far have cost $983 million in 1977 dollars, which translates to $3.7 billion now. The spacecraft have enough fuel to last until around 2020.

By that time, scientists hope Voyager will already be floating between the stars


source:http://newyork.newsday.com/news/world/nasa-s-voyager-1-poised-to-cross-into-interstellar-space-1.3949554

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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby stev » September 4th, 2012, 1:17 pm

been tracking the voyager 1 and 2 for some time now.

mods, can u merge with this?

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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby MG Man » September 4th, 2012, 1:21 pm

wow..............amazing how long those buggers lasted.........I wonder what useful inf they will collect in the largely empty void if interstellar space.........

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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby stev » September 4th, 2012, 1:27 pm

there is a small chance that they would become totally useless after passing the bow shock. i believe the theory states that transmitting a signal into a bow shock is deflected outwards, therefore they will not be able to communicate with NASA....i think.

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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby stev » January 29th, 2013, 1:35 am

there are more than one Voyager threads so i bumped the first one i saw....


just a cool fact:

the earth moves way faster than voyager 1 so depending on the time of year, the distance between Voyager 1 and Earth decreases.....

real-time odometer is here:

http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/where/index.html

you can see the distance is decreasing at the moment.


Speed of Voyager 1: ~62,136 km/h

Speed of Earth's Orbit: ~100,000 km/h

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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby Dizzy28 » January 29th, 2013, 8:44 am

First read about them in an Astronomy book I received in Form 1. Couldn't believe it then and even more amazed now.

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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby VexXx Dogg » January 29th, 2013, 6:53 pm

stev wrote:there are more than one Voyager threads so i bumped the first one i saw....


just a cool fact:

the earth moves way faster than voyager 1 so depending on the time of year, the distance between Voyager 1 and Earth decreases.....

real-time odometer is here:

http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/where/index.html

you can see the distance is decreasing at the moment.


Speed of Voyager 1: ~62,136 km/h

Speed of Earth's Orbit: ~100,000 km/h


Did not know that. awesome

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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby RBphoto » January 30th, 2013, 1:11 pm

Ting built like a 2003 nokia phone.

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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby Strauss » January 30th, 2013, 10:07 pm

crossdrilled wrote:Ting built like a 2003 nokia phone.

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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby stev » February 1st, 2013, 1:38 pm

u guys ever hear about Solar Sails?

apparently, if NASA were to launch a probe that has an average sized solar sail....it wud catch up to voyager 1 in only 8 years O.O


lack of funding is a beyotch...

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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby MG Man » February 4th, 2013, 8:37 am

those sails have to be ridiculously huge tho.........and insanely fragile

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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby stev » March 6th, 2013, 2:08 pm

just an update guys...


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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby SmokeyGTi » March 6th, 2013, 9:57 pm

nice...

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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby stev » March 21st, 2013, 12:11 pm

NASA VOYAGER STATUS UPDATE ON VOYAGER 1 LOCATION

"The Voyager team is aware of reports today that NASA's Voyager 1 has left the solar system," said Edward Stone, Voyager project scientist based at the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, Calif. "It is the consensus of the Voyager science team that Voyager 1 has not yet left the solar system or reached interstellar space. In December 2012, the Voyager science team reported that Voyager 1 is within a new region called 'the magnetic highway' where energetic particles changed dramatically. A change in the direction of the magnetic field is the last critical indicator of reaching interstellar space and that change of direction has not yet been observed."

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2013-107

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?r ... 2012-381#5

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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby silent_riot » March 21st, 2013, 6:02 pm

The voyagers are honestly one of the most amazing things I've ever read about.

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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby shogun » March 21st, 2013, 7:54 pm

Just wow though. Seriously.


crossdrilled wrote:Ting built like a 2003 nokia phone.


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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby stev » April 19th, 2013, 6:44 am

VexXx Dogg wrote:
stev wrote:there are more than one Voyager threads so i bumped the first one i saw....


just a cool fact:

the earth moves way faster than voyager 1 so depending on the time of year, the distance between Voyager 1 and Earth decreases.....

real-time odometer is here:

http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/where/index.html

you can see the distance is decreasing at the moment.


Speed of Voyager 1: ~62,136 km/h

Speed of Earth's Orbit: ~100,000 km/h


Did not know that. awesome



Just an update:

the earth is now on it's path in orbit where it's moving faster than voyager 2. (distance is decreasing)

http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/where/index.html



and another fact: if u were 110 light years away (not sure if exact number) and u switch on a radio, u wud be listening to the first radio broadcast from earth in history.

110 light years seems like a tiny number.



also, there is a planet 65 million light years away (cant remember the name right now)

but if u were on that planet at this point in time and u had some kinda of super telescope that could see earth (clearly). you would be watching the extinction of the dinosaurs.

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Postby KURMAman » April 19th, 2013, 9:42 am

http://htwins.net/scale2/

u'll like this for sure

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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby stev » May 13th, 2013, 9:52 pm

earth is moving away from the voyagers again.

they are just over 34 light hours away from the sun. lol

http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/where/index.html

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 13th, 2013, 10:00 pm

only just realised that Jupiter can fit in the space between the earth and the moon!!!!

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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby stev » May 13th, 2013, 10:18 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:only just realised that Jupiter can fit in the space between the earth and the moon!!!!


:shock: thats true!!!

with approx. 22,000km of space remaining!!! weeeeeyyyyzzz

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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 13th, 2013, 10:23 pm

it's a HUGE distance between the earth and the moon

this is to scale
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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby toybago » May 13th, 2013, 10:57 pm

first thing comes to mind

http://youtu.be/gxAaVqdz_Vk

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Postby 3stagevtec » May 13th, 2013, 11:07 pm

toybago wrote:first thing comes to mind


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Postby xtech » May 13th, 2013, 11:43 pm

We will create the Borg...... Must destroy Voyager 6

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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby stev » May 14th, 2013, 12:24 am

Size of Voyager 1 & 2

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The Voyager spacecraft weight, including hydrazine, at launch was 815 kg or about 1797 pounds. It was almost the weight and size of a sub-compact car. The current approximate weight of Voyager 1 is 733 kg and Voyager 2 is 735 kg. The difference is in the amount of hydrazine remaining. Hydrazine is being used to control the spacecrafts' attitude.

The spacecraft, without the various booms could fit inside a cube that is about 4 meters on each side. The approximate measurements of the different structures follow - please refer to the spacecraft picture at the above web site.

The high gain antenna is 3.7 meters across (diameter).

The magnetometer boom is 13 meters long

The two Planetary Radio Astronomy and Plasma Wave antenna are 10 meters long.

The Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator boom is 3.7 meters long

The science instrument boom (near top of picture) is 3 meters long.

The Bus Housing Electronics is about 1.8 meters in diameter.

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Postby KURMAman » May 15th, 2013, 1:30 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

some epic physics there

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Postby ~Vēġó~ » May 15th, 2013, 5:44 pm

this is very exciting!!!!

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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby stev » June 28th, 2013, 1:59 am

Just an update guys

Not even NASA can explain this strange new region of our solar system

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It's been 36 years since the launch of NASA's Voyager 1, the furthest man-made object away from Earth. As it neared the edge of our solar system, NASA thought it would soon reach interstellar space. Instead, they found more solar system. Specifically, a bizarre new region where solar wind is undetectable, but still inside the Sun's magnetic field. Instead of cosmic rays coming in from all directions, they're still only hitting Voyager from one. Not one theory or computer model predicted that. No one at NASA can explain exactly what it is, how big it is, or what comes after it. Interstellar space may be a bit further away than we thought.

http://now.msn.com/solar-system-discove ... new-region



some depressing mathematics here:

voyager has traveled approx. 34 light minutes since launch. :lol:

if it continues to travel at over 17 km per second....it would take 17,532 years for it to travel one light year.

The closest star to our sun is Proxima Centauri, located approx 4.2 light years away......so it would take voyager 1 approx 73,635 years to reach our neighbour star (if it were heading in that direction)

Proxima Centauri has been the nearest star for about 32,000 years, and it will hold this record for another 33,000 years. It will make its closest approach to the Sun in about 26,700 years, getting to within 3.11 light-years of Earth. After 33,000 years from now, the nearest star will be Ross 248.

very rough mathematics btw....not exact figures

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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 poised to cross into interstellar space

Postby sliderz1 » June 28th, 2013, 11:11 am

you following this hard bro.

good update

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