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bluefete wrote:We all exist. As part of our existence, we have a body that we can see and touch. That makes us real.
But we also have a mind that we cannot see and touch. Because we cannot see and touch the mind, does this mean that it does not exist?
Is the mind an intangible thing?
Is the mind an integral part of our being? Or can we live without our minds?
So it is with God.
This is for MGMan, DFC and all the others who have plainly stated that God does not exist.
Humes wrote:We know thoughts exist because we've observed them, and we know how they work because we've observed how they work.
It is not so with God.
BTW - There was an earth before this one. The bible says so. That is why it is as old as it is.
MG Man wrote::lol:
the idea of god has caused so much despair in througout the history of humanity that it not funny
who says athiests live in despair anyway?
angel_player wrote::lol: MG Man, yuh real jump on your 'high horse' n riding on this thread boy! Yuh real firing shots at we ppl who believe in God! But wha can I say, you may be aethiest or however u spell that (I cant even spell it) but I hope u at least living a proper and peaceful life eh breds!
bluefete wrote:A thought is an intangible reality. Until it is brought to a tangible reality.
It is a product of a physical entity. But it is not seen unless acted upon.
If there is no God, where did everything come from? Is it true in science, that there are unobservable spectra? Does this mean they do not exist?
Conrad wrote:MG Man wrote::lol:
the idea of god has caused so much despair in througout the history of humanity that it not funny
who says athiests live in despair anyway?
Their comforts are usually tangible which wither away with time or leave them on the never-ending search for happiness. With anything in life, when taken to the extreme it causes grief. Religion can attest to that as you've clearly demonstrated.
Humes wrote:Conrad wrote:MG Man wrote::lol:
the idea of god has caused so much despair in througout the history of humanity that it not funny
who says athiests live in despair anyway?
Their comforts are usually tangible which wither away with time or leave them on the never-ending search for happiness. With anything in life, when taken to the extreme it causes grief. Religion can attest to that as you've clearly demonstrated.
Atheists take comfort in everything everyone else takes comfort in except religious belief. It could be material things, relationships, family, their career, charity...anything at all.
There are sad atheists and very happy atheists, just like there are sad believers and very happy believers. Please don't make assumptions about what an atheist's lifestyle or life pursuits comprise.
angel_player wrote::lol: MG Man, yuh real jump on your 'high horse' n riding on this thread boy! Yuh real firing shots at we ppl who believe in God! But wha can I say, you may be aethiest or however u spell that (I cant even spell it) but I hope u at least living a proper and peaceful life eh breds!
Conrad wrote:What bothers many atheist is the lack of control that they feel when God is placed into thought. The idea that something/someone is beyond what can be understood. That's human nature as well, we fear what we can't understand similar to the need to worship a higher being.
Humes wrote:I don't know where this "lack of control" concept enters the debate. It assumes that there's something there to not understand.
Being an atheists doesn't mean you feel more in control of your life or general knowledge than a believer. If anything, being an atheist makes you more mindful of just how arbitrary reality can be, and just how much is unknown.
Acknowledging that some things can't be known or understood is one of the cornerstones of agnosticism and atheism. They're the ones more likely to say "I don't know" when encountered with an unexplainable event, as opposed to tagging it with a supernatural label.
I also think this whole "God, not religion" thing is irrelevant to this discussion. We're talking about belief itself here. Whether it's some benevolent holistic spirituality, or some major corrupt religion, it all hinges on the belief of something atheists don't believe in.
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