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Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:I think there is great misunderstanding and lack of information here.
Why don't you call TTASA and find out what they are doing?
Infact call TTRC, CARS, TTKA and ARA too!
you would be surprised at the amount of work that is done daily outside of having events. ALot of letters, meetings, lobbying etc etc with various Ministry heads in different ministries and state organisations.
DO NOT think that nothing is being done. I can say for a fact that ALOT is being done by ALL these associations - however the fact remains that without unity there will be no support form the Ministry of Sport.
The reasons are complex, however the simplest way I can explain the entire problem IMO is like this:
Unity depends on forming a General Council that has all the major motor sport clubs in T&T.
A General Council without the major players will not be supported by the Ministry of Sport.
The clubs who have not joined will only do so if the General Council is the NGB where they are equal to TTASA. They will not join if they must be below TTASA in the eyes of the Ministry. They don't mind however if TTASA retains the ASN status with FIA.
However TTASA will not yield since they are already the NGB. The NGB is the only body the Ministry will deal with (in theory).
These associations are busy 24/7, including TTASA and are doing ALOT to push their structure of motorsport - however it is not meshing at alot of levels and the Ministry will not support unless they do mesh.
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If your grouse is with TTASA alone, then join the association and move up through the ranks to effect change by way of vote. I believe the TTASA AGM / elections is in July 2012.
link wrote:the Motor Sport General Council to represent the RECOGNISED motor sport disciplines, not 'clubs',
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:the general council should not have representatives from every single club. The general council should have representatives from every single discipline. i.e. it should not have 4 rally clubs sitting on the council, instead it should have a member/s sitting on the council representing rallying.
Correct me if I'm wrong Link, doesn't the current general council set up by TTASA have TTUNDRA, Horizon Motorsport, V8 club, TTNSA, Mini Club etc all sitting on the council?[/b]
The idea of having things like V8 car club and mini club, etc as 'affiliates' is silly. Shows lack of direction and organisation.
??silly.
What if road racing became a viable sport in TnT... there may form a Road Race club so will this theorhetical new club now need to become part of the general council ?
link wrote:The idea of having things like V8 car club and mini club, etc as 'affiliates' is silly. Shows lack of direction and organisation.
Electric and New Energies Championships Commission
President Burkhard Goeschel
Secretary Carlos Funes – FIA
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Historic Motor Sport Commission
President John Hughes - MSA
Secretary Frédéric Champlon - Geneva
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Truck Racing Commission
President Manuel Vidal
Secretary Frédérique Trouvé - Geneva
etc, etc,etc
??silly.
link wrote:What if road racing became a viable sport in TnT... there may form a Road Race club so will this theorhetical new club now need to become part of the general council ?
have you looked at the sport of drifting lately ? It's becoming a 'VIABLE' sport.....
same thing 'happened' to these guys...:
Hill-Climb Commission
President Paul Gutjahr – Auto Sport Suisse
Secretary Frédéric Champlon - Geneva
To compare a hill climb to drifting is like comparing a circus performance to proper gymnastics.
link wrote:To compare a hill climb to drifting is like comparing a circus performance to proper gymnastics.
but they GOT THERE FROM A START.........the same start u guys are apparently failing to recognise or give credit for.
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NO LOCAL MOTOR SPORTING DISCIPLINE WILL BE LEFT BEHIND AS LONG AS IT CAN CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY
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have a good day, 'gentlemen'.
link wrote:To compare a hill climb to drifting is like comparing a circus performance to proper gymnastics.
but they GOT THERE FROM A START.........the same start u guys are apparently failing to recognise or give credit for.
Link wrote:NO LOCAL MOTOR SPORTING DISCIPLINE WILL BE LEFT BEHIND AS LONG AS IT CAN CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY
X2 wrote:We need to understand what a 'minister without portfolio' means.
gt4tified wrote:If in politics we follow the Westminster system where Leaders (Leader of the Opposition and also the Prime Minister) are so determined by virtue of being the persons who command the majority of support from their respective political benches, why then can't the NGB/NSO be the body that commands the support of the most Motorsport Disciplines?
Food 4 thought.
TTASA President is the one who has his facts wrong. AutoSport with D&W, CARS with solodex, TTKA with karting, TTRC with rally, TTORC with offroad and TORMATT with motocross are the ones who have been having proper championship racing events YEARS now and they are not "on board" with TTASA. Not even one of them."the minister has his facts wrong, everybody is on board with ttasa except ttrc(rally)"
X2 wrote:
Because then it is simply a popularity contest rather than deciding what is best for the racers and country. I can then start a racing organisation and gain support of many and claim my right as the NSO. Racing is at the hearts of many enthusiasts, tuners, racers and the common man alike. But most of all... Racing is also a business.
If you run a business like you run a government... you will soon be out of business
SR wrote:TTASA President is the one who has his facts wrong. AutoSport with D&W, CARS with solodex, TTKA with karting, TTRC with rally, TTORC with offroad and TORMATT with motocross are the ones who have been having proper championship racing events YEARS now and they are not "on board" with TTASA. Not even one of them."the minister has his facts wrong, everybody is on board with ttasa except ttrc(rally)"
On the other hand not one single "affiliate" club who is "on board" with TTASA has ever had a single racing event themselves.
TTASA claim they have a drag racing championship but they only had two championship events so far between November 2011 and May 2012 and it took months for competitors to get their point standings from the first event and probably months to wait again for results from the 2nd event.
bushwakka wrote:steups.....make ttasa an offer they can't refuse
RIPEBREDFRUIT wrote:bushwakka wrote:steups.....make ttasa an offer they can't refuse
YUP- retire NOW or face an Extremely embarassing and hurtful suitation.
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