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frustr8ed wrote:Link why don't you just answer the simple questions with simple answers?
Who is the treasurer of TTASA?
Or is it that TTASA has no treasurer? Who is handling all the money being collected?
You want to claim incorrect information is being posted here yet your president was lying on national TV claiming only 1 club not affiliated to TTASA
link wrote:here goes...:
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link wrote:frustr8ed wrote:Link why don't you just answer the simple questions with simple answers?
Who is the treasurer of TTASA?
Or is it that TTASA has no treasurer? Who is handling all the money being collected?
You want to claim incorrect information is being posted here yet your president was lying on national TV claiming only 1 club not affiliated to TTASA
here goes...:
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SR wrote:balhead dem old farts dont know anything about proper company/club management and accountability
they still living in the 60's and 70's where they ran it like a dictatorship
hence thier demise from the 80's with the splitting of opinions regarding drag racing and circuit and drag racing went off on thier own
now that circuit racing is dead thanks to themsleves for thinking that they caould squat on wallerfield forever and spent the monies made on themselves to travel the world under the guise of motorsport they now want to cash in on possible incomes from drag racing and take control
all the years of FIA my ass
at which point in time has any track or event run by TTASA met safety standards set out by FIA
Link best response is always a song and dance because he knows the amount of wool they pulling over the public's eyes
thats what ttasa is really good at
fooling the unsuspecting public
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:not at all! I encourage everyone to post their opinion hereX2 wrote:Duane, you telling a man that he is typing for typing's sake and all his questions have been answered before to others ? Well it must be news to us that EVERYTHING being discussed here has been discussed before and we should all STFU and free up bandwidth.
but more than a few times gt4tified asked a question when the answer was posted a few posts up. Like the last post he made in here asking where is Autosport when I posted the acronyms a few posts before showing ARA is Autosport Racing Association.
I thought I was posting in vain!
You are full of it Link.link wrote:frustr8ed wrote:Link why don't you just answer the simple questions with simple answers?
Who is the treasurer of TTASA?
Or is it that TTASA has no treasurer? Who is handling all the money being collected?
You want to claim incorrect information is being posted here yet your president was lying on national TV claiming only 1 club not affiliated to TTASA
here goes...:
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r e f e r...
t o...
y o u r...
a f f i l i a t e...
o r g a n i s a t i o n's...
r e p r e s e n t a t i v e...
f o r...
i n f o r m a t i o n...
I stand by my statement "the poor souls who don't know better!" This statement is not directed to any particular person or group, but it by no means limits it's relevance to persons beyond these forums.link wrote:Computerman wrote:Good to know you are familiar with TTASA's constitution. BTW, what is the role of the Trustees in the TTASA constitution?professor wrote:TTASA have elections also, as per their constitution.
BTW, the NSO/NGB for Motorsport does not have to be ASN. TTASA is just using that as one of their 'selling points' to the poor souls who don't know better.
I'm suprised yuh pardners who standing on d side bleating, have not corrected your statement, ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY WERE ALL PRESENT AT THE MEETING (LAST YEAR) WHEN MSYA LEGAL COUNSEL STATED OTHERWISE.
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No, I will not post what was said since YOU ARE THE ONE 'SELLIN' SOMETHING...I will let 'yuh pardners' supply that info.
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& please don't beat up on professor......ask him to explain his points in a simpler manner...
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rgds
Correct. That was at MOSPORT.Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ there was supposed to be an interview with the heads of TTRC, TTKA, CARS and ARA on CNC3
The interview took place on Wednesday night at the Drag + Wind briefing meeting
I believe it was done to in response to TTASA's President claiming that it was TTRC alone who was not an affiliate and holding back progress.
Computerman wrote:
So Link, using the logic of the MSYA Legal Council, what would exempt the TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO AUTOMOBILE ASSOCIATION from being named the new NGB...... TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO AUTOMOBILE SPORTS ASSOCIATION ......?
Computerman wrote:Correct. That was at MOSPORT.Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ there was supposed to be an interview with the heads of TTRC, TTKA, CARS and ARA on CNC3
The interview took place on Wednesday night at the Drag + Wind briefing meeting
I believe it was done to in response to TTASA's President claiming that it was TTRC alone who was not an affiliate and holding back progress.
But TTASA were contacted after this meeting and their President responded. Ali confirmed that all other "recognized" Motorsport bodies must be under TTASA (affiliates). He also stated that CARS and ARA cannot, I repeat, "CANNOT" be affiliated with TTASA because they are not recognized by FIA. As for TTKA, he says they never showed any interest in joining. I wonder why?
Ali is really raising the bar of 'arrogance' well beyond anything I thought possible.
link wrote:Computerman wrote:
So Link, using the logic of the MSYA Legal Council, what would exempt the TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO AUTOMOBILE ASSOCIATION from being named the new NGB...... TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO AUTOMOBILE SPORTS ASSOCIATION ......?
that ONE word...
http://fia.com/en-GB/mobility/policy/Pa ... entre.aspx
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http://fia.com/en-GB/sport/Pages/Introduction.aspx
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Carpark racing.pete wrote:Computerman wrote:Correct. That was at MOSPORT.Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ there was supposed to be an interview with the heads of TTRC, TTKA, CARS and ARA on CNC3
The interview took place on Wednesday night at the Drag + Wind briefing meeting
I believe it was done to in response to TTASA's President claiming that it was TTRC alone who was not an affiliate and holding back progress.
But TTASA were contacted after this meeting and their President responded. Ali confirmed that all other "recognized" Motorsport bodies must be under TTASA (affiliates). He also stated that CARS and ARA cannot, I repeat, "CANNOT" be affiliated with TTASA because they are not recognized by FIA. As for TTKA, he says they never showed any interest in joining. I wonder why?
Ali is really raising the bar of 'arrogance' well beyond anything I thought possible.
I'm confused, what does he think is not recognized by FIA? Autocross?
This is precisely the problem.Duane 3NE 2NR wrote: Which I why I feel the solution is to make the general council the NGB and then everyone will join, including TTASA who will remain as the FIA ASN. However TTASA does not want to give up their NGB status.
Computerman wrote:This is precisely the problem.Duane 3NE 2NR wrote: Which I why I feel the solution is to make the general council the NGB and then everyone will join, including TTASA who will remain as the FIA ASN. However TTASA does not want to give up their NGB status.
But from TTASA's point of view why should they give up NGB status? After all it is not TTASA's mandate to represent anyone other than it's members and to a limited extent it's affiliates. They "hold all the cards" so what do they gain by relinquishing NGB status?
The MSYA is quite satisfied with the current situation as it relates to Motorsport. After all, it is not costing them anything.
As racers, we (I do not speak for all) are not looking for handouts from the Gov't. We just want to be respected and treated in a fair manner. We are seeking proper representation from a body which is transparent and accountable. We are ready and willing to work with any organisation that can provide this. For many we have found such bodies (eg. CARS, TTRC, TTKA, ARA to name a few) whom we are working with and will continue to work with despite repeated attempts by the NGB to discredit, ridicule and vilify these organizations, their management and members.
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:FIA would not be very different from FIFA
I don't think anything is wrong with FIA at all. F1 and WRC are FIA sanctioned and we all love those events.
I think the issue for the local clubs is that they want to be able to vote and have a say in the affairs of the NGB which represents their sport. They will not join TTASA right now because joining will mean they end up below TTASA and will not be able to vote in affairs of the NGB.
Which I why I feel the solution is to make the general council the NGB and then everyone will join, including TTASA who will remain as the FIA ASN. However TTASA does not want to give up their NGB status.
This is how TTASA represents those whom "they don't represent!" By extension it reflects on those whom they do represent. But many racers do not care once "they have a place to race!"wagonrunner wrote:All well said and appreciated, but even going along "as is", are racers happy when that's the image of them, presented to the Government and the public at large?
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