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MadCrix
 Post subject: glow plug question
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:47 am 
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so I bought a b2500

it has a switch I need to press to warm the glow plugs. it does not work automatically when you turn on the ignition.

what part went bad for them to bypass it, and where can I get the bad part, new?


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3stagevtec
 Post subject: Re: glow plug question
PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:57 am 
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I heard that the glow plug controller is made of unobtanium.. :lol:

Research on glow plug control module. You could get an electrician to check the wiring for you and make sure all relays are working. See if you could find it's location in the factory service manual..


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 Post subject: Re: glow plug question
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If all else fails, there is a simple circuit I could work up for you, you press a momentary contact switch to warm plugs up and the circuit will deactivate automatically after you start the engine.. Would help prevent you from leaving them on accidentally.


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MadCrix
 Post subject: Re: glow plug question
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where is de controller located?
if that fails, 3stage we can do the simple circuit where when it gets an ignition source if start to warm the plugs. when the light come off on de dash, I can bounce starter. then it stops warming the plugs.

cost and when can we go this and where you located?


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 Post subject: Re: glow plug question
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MadCrix wrote:
where is de controller located?
if that fails, 3stage we can do the simple circuit where when it gets an ignition source if start to warm the plugs. when the light come off on de dash, I can bounce starter. then it stops warming the plugs.

cost and when can we go this and where you located?


No idea where it's located, never had to interfere with one.

Does the light come off automatically after you manually start the plugs or does it stay on until you manually switch the circuit off?

If it's a simple on / off design they installed, it would just cost you a relay and a momentary contact switch to do the setup. The circuit I could design will still require you to manually start the plugs, it will just cut off after you start the vehicle.


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MadCrix
 Post subject: Re: glow plug question
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:16 am 
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yea it cuts off after i let go the swtich. so if it does not warm up enuff and the light is on i can release the swtich and it cuts the circuit.

so the switch is not an on off switch, its like a doorbell
so i hold de switch down till the light comes off then i release switch and then i bounce starter


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MonsterPower
 Post subject: Re: glow plug question
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mad crix there is an electrician Alan in montrose just opposite sonny's auto .. he was able to wire up the original module in our last b2600 we converted from gas to diesel


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The unit is located under the injector rail on the right side closest to the firewall temp control unit, allows the plugs to stay active up to about 10 mins after start. And engine reaches optimal temp


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streetbeastINC.
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The unit is located under the injector rail on the right side closest to the firewall temp control unit, allows the plugs to stay active up to about 10 mins after start. And engine reaches optimal temp


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black start
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3stage would it be possible to post a schematic of that circuit?


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MadCrix
 Post subject: Re: glow plug question
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streetbeast can you post a pic of it?


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black start wrote:
3stage would it be possible to post a schematic of that circuit?

interested also.


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MadCrix
 Post subject: Re: glow plug question
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:58 am 
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so through research and reading the manuals, the glow plug activates initially to warm up befor eu start. however if your b2500 is below 65F the glow plugs come back on as you start to help with idle, emissions and fuel consumption.

so in other words yuh need to replace the bad part if yuh want good mileage and a smooth idle on cold start ups. cuase my van shakes like crazy on cold, as soon as I press the glow plug swtich, it settles down and idles smooth on mornings

I think I figured out what part went bad. I think its the glow plug relay as they have a standard relay and wired the swtich into it to send power to the plugs
gonna buy the new relay Saturday and test.

fiaz have it for 600ish
marod 400ish
ford 992


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speedaholic
 Post subject: Re: glow plug question
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:14 am 
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Crix.. .did you get through with this?? is the van idling smooth on mornings now?


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MadCrix
 Post subject: Re: glow plug question
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:57 am 
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ok so I got the glow plug relay for 150 used.. I find that was a bess price btw :)

plugged it in with help over the phone from tr1ad as I needed to know where the power wires were plugging into.

van start normal now and how it supposed to.
wha ti found thou was white smoke and slight miss in idle now on cold mornings so I took off the glow plug rail and measured the resistance across each glow plug

results were

glow plug 1 : .36
2: .47
3: .38
4: 3.79

so number four is bad, walked over to mathuras and bought a ngk plug and replaced the faulty glow plug. now I get smooth idle on startup. white smoke thou until I start to move but smooth idle. gonna do a couple diesel treatments to see if it is a leaky injector that causing the white smoke when left overnight as it does not happen again for the day.


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