Tech Thread - Ford Ranger

[civic minded]

my pads only last about 6 months and it is OEM , they keep saying the amount of Torque my van have that cause it to burn out faster. The 2.5L WLT ranger changed after 5 years

[zaria]

Anyone bought any of the new ranger,wanted to know how they working.

[sweeks]

my pads only last about 6 months and it is OEM , they keep saying the amount of Torque my van have that cause it to burn out faster. The 2.5L WLT ranger changed after 5 years

What mileage?

Wondering if it's the same pads as the 07-10. Or if they updated the pads/part #s.

Ques: would the auto van burn out pads faster than the manual?

[zaria]

my pads only last about 6 months and it is OEM , they keep saying the amount of Torque my van have that cause it to burn out faster. The 2.5L WLT ranger changed after 5 years

What mileage?

Wondering if it's the same pads as the 07-10. Or if they updated the pads/part #s.

Ques: would the auto van burn out pads faster than the manual?

From small i hearin people say pads last longer in manual cause u can use engine for braking(down shift)Sounds feasible,but never really tested it.

[civic minded]

yes my van is auto but so too the 2.5L so being manual or auto don't make a difference. Mileage ; 3.0L - 84K , 2.5L - 165K

[zaria]

civic minded wrote:
my pads only last about 6 months and it is OEM , they keep saying the amount of Torque my van have that cause it to burn out faster. The 2.5L WLT ranger changed after 5 years

But above don't make sense to me.
2.5 or 3.0 i see only the vehicle weight and speed from which you are braking from to cause a difference in wear.(assuming both vehicles are driven around same speed)
i don't see torque having an effect(other than achieving the higher speed sooner)it's not like
ur gonna apply brake and gas at same time.

[civic minded]

^^ yeah i know - i didnt understand it myself. But i have proof. The only difference between the two is one is the 2.5L WLT auto 4x4 and the other is the 3.0L TDCi 4x4
They uses different OEM brake pads thou - maybe the manufacturer are different, will call the firm and find out.

[sweeks]

We need a site to help us.

For Toyotas there is www.toyodiy.com which is excellent for part numbers etc.

I suspect ford change the pads. I know Toyota did it with their new models.

[sweeks]

I called the dealership today. The sale was on suspension parts and disc pads but you only qualify for this when you took your vehicle to service during the month of October.

[zaria]

Anyone bought any of the new ranger,wanted to know how they working.

So nobody buy the new ranger????

[Cooper]

Your brake pads should wear faster in an automatic as opposed to a manual because you rely more on the brakes to slow the vehicle and keep it at a standstill. The cars I've owned and driven before buying my truck were a mixture of manual and automatic and I did change pads more frequently on the automatics.

I rely on my manual a lot to slow the vehicle from almost any speed. Even when driving through roads with a lot humps like in Lange Park, I barely touch the brake pedal. Only problem is if the driver behind you isn't paying attention and only relying on your brake lights to slow his vehicle, you could end up in a minor accident. I have noticed many drivers driving aggressively behind my truck, only for them to hit the brakes hard when my vehicle slows down.

But the only way to make a true comparison with the trucks is to ensure the vehicles are the same (only difference being the transmission) and the parts used are the same.


Anyway, as far as the dealership is concerned, it looks like I missed the sale on the brake pads. I'll check with Ryan (fliterproz) to get a quote on the part and compare it with the stealership (I still have my discount card so I may be able to save a few dollars.)

Can anyone recommend any after-market brands I should compare with the OEM pads?

[sweeks]

If you can find it in sumitomo, Bosch or advics ....these are all oem brands. But I've never seen them locally with the exception of Bosch and then I've seen imitation Bosch *sigh*

[vharripersad]

I got a Ford Ranger manual 4x4 XLT 2010 model when driving for two weeks i smell something burning like brakes in the front. When i come out the vehicle, the smell comes from the tyres. The smell is noticeable when I drive 80 or above and it comes and goes. So went to the firm to check it out, they said my brakes Caliper had a leak and need to be replaced, NOT repaired. They don't have it in stock, so i have been driving the van for the 3rd week now, break fluid level has not drop and the firm did confirm that it was a very slow leak so the fluid may not drop. Before this started happening I had my brakes changed in the firm 2 weeks before the the burning smell problem started. I install ford motor craft brakes. My pickup is not under warranty and I am have no knowledge about motor vehicles. Anyone has suggestions? I was thinking of having an outside mechanic check and praying that it was as simple as repairing or replacing some rubbers in the caliper (no clue what a caliper is either)

[zaria]

I would go to another experienced garage for 2nd opinion.
Sometimes in installing new pads could cause a leak on the caliper.
When u get the smell is the trouble wheel abnormally hot??
A leaking caliper is easy to spot,you must have a friend who can look at it
to see if wet from the fluid

[civic minded]

^^once it isnt under warranty - the Firm won't care a crap about your ride. Best thing to do is take it to a reputable mechanic - There are several good ones out there, depending on your area. Worst case senario that you need to change the whole caliper , try to get original parts. Besides the firm you can get parts from a few powersellers here and certain locations in the bamboo.

[sweeks]

A 2nd and 3rd opinion is worth the effort.

[vharripersad]

Guys sucess. Seiken or something like that was the brand, kit cost 250, one rubber inside the caliper by the piston was damaged but the mech suggested changing all 4 rubbers inside the piston thingy. Came to POS this morning, no probs perfect. I will be pressing charges on ansa for mis information, misleading and dishonesty

Thanks all

[medalist]

Which mechanic did u service by? im looking for a good place to do tranny fluid flush, oil change, check brakes, overall check on a ford ranger 2008 3.0L in central area

[vharripersad]

Amit Penal 482-9684

[zaria]

Guys sucess. Seiken or something like that was the brand, kit cost 250, one rubber inside the caliper by the piston was damaged but the mech suggested changing all 4 rubbers inside the piston thingy. Came to POS this morning, no probs perfect. I will be pressing charges on ansa for mis information, misleading and dishonesty

Thanks all

Let us know how this unfolds

[homeboy]

Guys my Ranger seems like he wants some attention....

1. It tumbles more that 2 or 3 times to start even if the engine is warm or not...
2. Smoking.
3. Burning more fuel than normal.
4. The main one, only when i take off going uphill and into 2nd gear the van holds back somewhere in the gear before back to normal.

I change engine oil and fuel filter last week, clean the strainer out, clean my air filter.
The injectors was never serviced since 40K and now it's on 75K.
Fuel treatment once a month and just regular driving.....


Any advice on what i need to do before i start spending money on what might not be the issue here?

[lighthammer]

Guys my Ranger seems like he wants some attention....

1. It tumbles more that 2 or 3 times to start even if the engine is warm or not...

Check your glow plugs. Might need changing out.
If it's not starting well even when warm - might be loss of compression in the cylinders. May need to have a mech check for worn piston rings or even a crack in the head/block.

2. Smoking.

Since u already checked the filters and cleaned the tank - you may need to service the injectors. Thing to note - sometimes we get bad batches of diesel, i.e. the diesel that Petrotin ships out sometimes is dirtier than at other times, so some smoking may occur.
Try running some Amsoil diesel concentrate or Liquid Moly for the next couple of fill-ups, then run a tank of regular diesel and see if the additives made a difference.

3. Burning more fuel than normal.

Did you recently rotate/align ur tires? Checked ur tire pressure? What about your driving style or even regular driving routes?

4. The main one, only when i take off going uphill and into 2nd gear the van holds back somewhere in the gear before back to normal.

Your clutch may be slipping, might need a mech to check it out. Friend of mine has a BT50 amd he uses it regularly for work, and he had to change out his clutch at approx 70K miles. Used Exedy clutch to replace, which is what SSL and Ford uses.

[homeboy]

^Thanks Hammer.........

1. Going to service injectors soon.
2. Glow plugs will change together with the injector service.
3. Will try the fuel treatment as you said.
4. How does the tyre rotation affect the fuel mileage? My driving habits are still the same since i just got the van till now, i think something is wrong and will look into this after i get the van working properly again.

[zaria]

ALL 2012 ford ranger,the recommended oil is WSS-M2C-921-A or
WSS-M2C-913-D (it's a 10w 30)
I used amsoil 15w 40 and had tappet noise,reason explained to me is because
oil ports are small and oil is thick restricting flow.

So i spent 4 days tracking the correct oil(don't bother calling ANSA,they use 15w40 as well)
And i have located it,for any ford ranger owner who would lke to use this oil PM me
But it's expensive eh $300 a gallon Full synthetic castrol, with a max drain interval of 20,000km
Qty is limited so HURRY!!

[civic minded]

^^are you sure its not 10W-40? full synthetic ? The firm uses 10w-40 Total in the ford rangers.

[zaria]

The info is from the op manual
"Engine oil - Diesel (for markets with high sulphur
content greater than 350 ppm) Castrol Engine Oil WSS-M2C-921-A
WSS-M2C-913-D"
I have a letter from Ford to Castrol giving approval to the Castrol oil.
Not sure why Ansa is using that oil, MAck Rampersad using amsoil I think but 40 as well. I like to follow the manufacturer recommendation's within reason.
Also my engine immediately got noisy after filling with amsoil 15w 40.
Apparently no one else had issues,so it's a matter of choice,hopefully their DPF
holds out as this is sensitive to wrong oil

[zaria]

Forgot to add,The castrol is not available in quarts or gallons locally,only 55 gal drum.
So don't bother look.
Below is spec taken of manual for ranger 2012 diesel oil
Part Recommended fluid Specification
Engine oil - Diesel (for markets with low sulphur
content less than 350 ppm) Castrol Engine Oil WSS-M2C-913-C
WSS-M2C-913-D

Engine oil - Diesel (for markets with high sulphur
content greater than 350 ppm) Castrol Engine Oil WSS-M2C-921-A
WSS-M2C-913-D

So from all info i think we fall under the high sulphur market
SO we need wss-m2c-921-a or wss-m2c-913-d.
If you google wss-m2c-913-d you will find castrol a5 5w30.
(keep in mind ford recommends castrol)
Tracmac does not have the A5 but they have A1 in same grade.
They do however have a letter from FORD(i have a copy)where ford
approved their A1 to meet their specs and hence fall under the wss-m2c-913-d

[bas]

What brand of pressure plate and clutch disc to buy for WL-T were and price

[lighthammer]

stock is exedy. check trinidad brake and clutch in barataria

[SmokeyGTi]

b2500/ranger men

any of you all ever did custom back bumpers for your vehicles?
looking at getting one made out of steel pipe (or whatever they use), not necessarily chrome/shiny.

vehicle is a b2500 pickup. i would appreciate any contacts

thanks,
smokey