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MG Man wrote:why you guys trying to reinvent the wheel re the championship?
Has anyone complained that 4 out of 6 is not enough?
Has anyone complained that because of how the current championship is structured, they rather go to drag and wind(ing)?
Vishnu, what would be the point of two series?
the NE class already deals with that, no?
mazdamaniac wrote:MG Man wrote:why you guys trying to reinvent the wheel re the championship?
Has anyone complained that 4 out of 6 is not enough?
Has anyone complained that because of how the current championship is structured, they rather go to drag and wind(ing)?
Vishnu, what would be the point of two series?
the NE class already deals with that, no?
MG Man the point of these discussions is to kick around new ideas to promote development of the club. I do see your point in some respect but just because no one is complaining does not mean it can't be improved. Granted we do have to be cautious not to undo an already good format.
With that said I would like to throw out a few other ideas,
1) the novice classes could be further subdivided into four categories so as not to discourage a novice with a GS or HS car who has to compete with someone in an ESP car. sounds like a plan worth exploring...HS should be the biggest class, but it hardly even attracts anyone. An HS (or similar) NE class should help resurrect HS
2) reduce the novice period from six events to a three event period before moving to regular competition classes. Not so sure about that one....I think a year in NE with the option to voluntarily bump is a good format...sometimes people need 2-3 events just to get familiar..let de people enjoy dey year nah bai
3) this one might seem harsh, but it should be mandatory for the novices to walk the course at least twice during the stipulated course walk time period in order to qualify to compete on that day. A better idea might be (assuming people can come early) is to have them walk as a group WITH an experienced member (sure there are many willing volunteers), followed by a Q&A
Something that has been discussed but never fully developed was a dedicated go-to person for novices, ie a spotter who a novice can go to after a run to ask why he/she DNF'd, or to see how bad his / her lines were, etc. Such a person would be clearly identified at the drivers' briefing, as opposed to 'yeah feel free to talk to the experienced dexers, they have a wealth of knowledge)
4) Random breathalyzer testing I can get arrive alive to do this for the Club. All it takes is a request letter
Now let the beating begin
mazdamaniac wrote:
1) the novice classes could be further subdivided into four categories so as not to discourage a novice with a GS or HS car who has to compete with someone in an ESP car.
This
2) reduce the novice period from six events to a three event period before moving to regular competition classes.
Not this
Now let the beating begin OOK
MG Man wrote:if anyone is willing to volunteer, I'm sure the committee will welcome it
Pretty sure CARS does not have the budget to hire a pro to produce vids
BTW, the biggest influx of new drivers into dex coincided with the shift of CARS forum to http://www.trinituner.com
This has never been properly recognized / credited imo, and as a result, never truly capitalized, and now has died down.....
In terms of followup, I think a lot can be done with the email contacts gathered at every event. When a new season begins, it might be worth the effort to contact all the previous year's nOObs who are not at SD1, and find out why they are not returning. Simple email might suffice.
Rather than speculate as to why people do not come back after 2 or 3 events, why not ask them? We have the database. Create a 'roll call' spreadsheet and track attendance.
Maybe offer one free event to someone who came 4 times last year and never came back, or a discount or summ
whizpig wrote:Hey chris, i think MG answered my last post pretty well wrt more school in driving school, as for BYCC i didn't mean have more events, just promote them more/better.
i think there was an influx of noobs when CARS joined trinituner because of the exposure to a community of car enthusiasts
with respect to increasing membership, you can't go wrong with promotion and incentives. There are ways to get free-to-cheap promotion (exploiting trinituner forums and facebook). Stuff like the earlier mentioned discount on Valvoline oil for members, is an excellent incentive and should be pursued (it would be real nice if other sponsors could be arranged, tires, brakes pads, etc.)
forgive me for not looking for it and quoting, but it was mentioned earlier that CARS should contact past members/competitors that have not returned to inquire why, such feedback an be invaluable in making the club more successful at attracting and keeping members.
MG Man wrote:RJ what I said there has nothing to do with events on the day
All of that can be done between events...u sure u understand what I said there?
MG Man wrote:so basically you saying it is pointless to email members who were at dex4 but not at dex 5 because nobody would have talked to them at dex 4?
that makes no sense
MG Man wrote:^^^before u jump the gun, D&W had massive competitor participation
CARS needs to figure out how it went from zero new competitors to a regular round of 20+ novices per event, and now back to dwindling newcomers.....you can't attract cash sponsors with 25 cars per event, but you can't grow the sport again until you figure out how it grew in the first place
MG Man wrote:novice numbers started slipping before D&W
Having said that, yes we can expect some tradeoff against D&W but at the same time, not everyone will be into that....I personally prefer the challenge of new courses to (struggle to) learn, rather than the same course repeated over and over
As per doing side by side events, Kirk had pioneered this as 'head to head' dex back when he was on the committee, and it met with great reception, but that was fought down for reasons I won't get into here.....
At the end of the day, this is all speculation until we get members involved.
As I told Anthony, I am willing to help with his role in Publications........this will be a start
I don't know who whizpig is, (assuming a newcomer) but he understands what I', saying
MG Man wrote:well, having recognized that the committee and its helpers are too busy on the day to speak with everyone (how practical is it for one person to speak to each competitor anyway?), u got a better / more practical solution to finding out why some members / competitors come to a few events and then don't return?
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