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wagonrunner wrote: even more engine braking would have been applied by the downshift.
chris1388 wrote:Kevin this way probably is smoother but I find that hard to do in dex when I am running up to a corner and braking as late as possible....that is my driving style. That's why I heel and toe downshift at dex because the point where the wheels don't have load from the engine on it i.e when you go to neutral.....the car speeds ups when you trying to slow down more hence putting more stress on ur brakes and risk of overshooting the corner.
wagonrunner wrote:he had me wondering if he goes into the corner with both brake and clutch depressed..
if the racing adage of "you're either accelerating or braking" is used.
From the time you go on the brake, you should have already dropped the gear, and come off the clutch before you come off the brake to go back on the gas.
so what extra brake stress? even more engine braking would have been applied by the downshift.
X2 wrote:The driving style you describing means you come off the gas early, gear down, brake, gas ? What's the purpose of downshifting before braking ? To ensure you don't upset the car after braking ?wagonrunner wrote:he had me wondering if he goes into the corner with both brake and clutch depressed..
if the racing adage of "you're either accelerating or braking" is used.
From the time you go on the brake, you should have already dropped the gear, and come off the clutch before you come off the brake to go back on the gas.
If so, the heel/toe method approaches it from a different angle.... clutching in/down shifting/braking/rev match at the same time so you slow, shift, blip all in the same time frame. This allows you to enter the corner at the fastest rate of travel while scrubbing off minimal speed. But IMO, it's a technique meant for the absolute fastest transition... if done at lower speeds, it's a bit risky and wasteful in many cases.
But it's a bit out of context as heel/toe cannot be used but in certain types of corners.
pete wrote:Only time I ever have to gear down at dex is through a slowwww hairpin. I have no idea what you guys are talking about
chris1388 wrote:foots wrote:Nice thread. I woulda rel like to learn to heel toe downshift without blowing my gearbox.
I have a question i hope cud be answered too. Does a single clutch rev-matched downshift put any more strain on the gearbox than a double clutch rev-matched downshift?
To go back to 1st gear while in motion with the ignis you must learn to do this. If you come to the driving school I will explain it more to you, but the key with that is practice.....and not on the roads you will need an empty car park or something. But yes you do need to understand what you are doing before you attempt else you probably may damage the box.
foots wrote:chris1388 wrote:foots wrote:Nice thread. I woulda rel like to learn to heel toe downshift without blowing my gearbox.
I have a question i hope cud be answered too. Does a single clutch rev-matched downshift put any more strain on the gearbox than a double clutch rev-matched downshift?
To go back to 1st gear while in motion with the ignis you must learn to do this. If you come to the driving school I will explain it more to you, but the key with that is practice.....and not on the roads you will need an empty car park or something. But yes you do need to understand what you are doing before you attempt else you probably may damage the box.
Well I all but give up on double clutching into first with the ignis, the revs always drop too low and the car lurches. I yet to heel toe into first (true I frighten).....I go make sure I there on the 26th so I cud learn some tings man.
foots wrote:Well I all but give up on double clutching into first with the ignis, the revs always drop too low and the car lurches. I yet to heel toe into first (true I frighten).....I go make sure I there on the 26th so I cud learn some tings man.
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