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WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby Dennis61 » March 27th, 2012, 3:34 pm

Just wanted to get some insight.
Which one would be more economical, to boost a SR20VE (to about 280-300whp) or buy a complete SR20DET?

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby Ted_v2 » March 27th, 2012, 9:18 pm

Id go with the DET

i rather not diggup inside engine internals

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby Dennis61 » March 27th, 2012, 10:54 pm

Ok sound boy 64 but which one u think will be less costly?

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby wagonrunner » March 27th, 2012, 11:50 pm

DET would be cheaper short term.
The gains may be greater in boosting the VE or increasing the power of the DET, but would cost more in funding and experience.

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby Dennis61 » March 28th, 2012, 6:55 pm

bump up

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby Ted_v2 » March 28th, 2012, 7:06 pm

Dennis61 wrote:Ok sound boy 64 but which one u think will be less costly?


def the DET

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby NR8 » March 28th, 2012, 8:35 pm

How much does a SR20VE go for these days?

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby Ted_v2 » March 28th, 2012, 9:50 pm

NR8 wrote:How much does a SR20VE go for these days?


Good question

also how much does a DE go for? and a DET?

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby wagonrunner » March 29th, 2012, 1:01 am

i coudl qoute my prices. but they won't be your rpices. so call around.

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby Tired Accord » April 3rd, 2012, 7:44 am

Hello Dennis61. I am currently boosting a VE. But I had a GTiR DET that locked up - so I'm re-using the pistons from the DET, injectors, MAF. The turbo shaft was shaking - so I'm using a new one. To boost a VE from scratch would probably cost a good bit more than going with a DET - unless you get good deals on parts. I imagine DET's probably running about $12k plus or more? A VE could probably be $5k? I just guessing.

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby THE SYNDICATE » April 21st, 2012, 12:12 pm

or he can boost a DE like me... half the cost of a DET and same gains with proper tuning! ;)

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby Dennis61 » May 3rd, 2012, 5:46 pm

thanks tuners. DET sounding like the way to go. Seems to be less hassle

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby speedfreak44 » May 14th, 2012, 9:37 pm

det with bigger turbo and tune..

but i find myself wanting a vet now... medium built bottom end and vvl grins

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby swift gti funatic » May 20th, 2012, 6:20 pm

if u really want a ve-t.... use the det block and swap on the ve head. You will need to drill and tap for a oil feed for the solenoids to work. I also advise using the ve oil pump aswell

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby dread_2002 » May 24th, 2012, 10:34 am

THE SYNDICATE wrote:or he can boost a DE like me... half the cost of a DET and same gains with proper tuning! ;)



When u boosting the DE did u put in Oil squirters or go play up with the internals at all?

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby NXTREME » May 30th, 2012, 7:09 am

IMHO i think firstly it depends on how much power u want.

If u dont plan on crossing 400hp i dont see the need to go VE-T.

I have seen stock DETs take well over 350hp with just simple upgrades as stage 2 cams, t3/t4, 850cc inj and a PROPERLY tuned emanage Ultimate.

In the case where u want more than 400hp i think VE-T is the better build with some headwork, n1 cams, a forged low compression block ofcourse and a "junk" of bigg turbo like a GTX35 :mrgreen:

At the end of this discussion and all opinions noted, a DET head cud never flow as well as a VE head stock for stock.

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby THE SYNDICATE » May 30th, 2012, 12:10 pm

dread_2002 wrote:
THE SYNDICATE wrote:or he can boost a DE like me... half the cost of a DET and same gains with proper tuning! ;)



When u boosting the DE did u put in Oil squirters or go play up with the internals at all?


stock internals and no oil squirters....and my car is an everyday driving car from central to POS.

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby V2NR 3.0 » June 8th, 2012, 7:20 pm

VET - talk done

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby yakuza » June 10th, 2012, 9:03 am

NXTREME wrote:a DET head cud never flow as well as a VE head stock for stock.

Stock VE head out flows a fully ported DET also.

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby NXTREME » June 13th, 2012, 7:23 am

BOOOST all d ve's!!!! :evilbat:




or



ve all the det's :|

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby THE SYNDICATE » June 13th, 2012, 7:32 am

^^like the second idea there! :D

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby Dennis61 » October 14th, 2012, 2:04 pm

The anticipation of Vvl on a det sounds like the way to go, so I may not sell the Vvl after all. ;-)

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby THE SYNDICATE » October 22nd, 2012, 6:21 am

^let us know how it goes! 8-)

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby Dennis61 » September 12th, 2013, 9:28 pm

I eventually went DET :grin:8-)I still have the VE although its up for sale so anything could happen. What's the average cost for the labour?

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Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Postby Ted_v2 » September 13th, 2013, 12:58 am

Throw on the head.

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