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WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: March 27th, 2012, 3:34 pm
by Dennis61
Just wanted to get some insight.
Which one would be more economical, to boost a SR20VE (to about 280-300whp) or buy a complete SR20DET?

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: March 27th, 2012, 9:18 pm
by Ted_v2
Id go with the DET

i rather not diggup inside engine internals

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: March 27th, 2012, 10:54 pm
by Dennis61
Ok sound boy 64 but which one u think will be less costly?

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: March 27th, 2012, 11:50 pm
by wagonrunner
DET would be cheaper short term.
The gains may be greater in boosting the VE or increasing the power of the DET, but would cost more in funding and experience.

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: March 28th, 2012, 6:55 pm
by Dennis61
bump up

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: March 28th, 2012, 7:06 pm
by Ted_v2
Dennis61 wrote:Ok sound boy 64 but which one u think will be less costly?


def the DET

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: March 28th, 2012, 8:35 pm
by NR8
How much does a SR20VE go for these days?

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: March 28th, 2012, 9:50 pm
by Ted_v2
NR8 wrote:How much does a SR20VE go for these days?


Good question

also how much does a DE go for? and a DET?

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: March 29th, 2012, 1:01 am
by wagonrunner
i coudl qoute my prices. but they won't be your rpices. so call around.

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: April 3rd, 2012, 7:44 am
by Tired Accord
Hello Dennis61. I am currently boosting a VE. But I had a GTiR DET that locked up - so I'm re-using the pistons from the DET, injectors, MAF. The turbo shaft was shaking - so I'm using a new one. To boost a VE from scratch would probably cost a good bit more than going with a DET - unless you get good deals on parts. I imagine DET's probably running about $12k plus or more? A VE could probably be $5k? I just guessing.

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: April 21st, 2012, 12:12 pm
by THE SYNDICATE
or he can boost a DE like me... half the cost of a DET and same gains with proper tuning! ;)

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: May 3rd, 2012, 5:46 pm
by Dennis61
thanks tuners. DET sounding like the way to go. Seems to be less hassle

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: May 14th, 2012, 9:37 pm
by speedfreak44
det with bigger turbo and tune..

but i find myself wanting a vet now... medium built bottom end and vvl grins

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: May 20th, 2012, 6:20 pm
by swift gti funatic
if u really want a ve-t.... use the det block and swap on the ve head. You will need to drill and tap for a oil feed for the solenoids to work. I also advise using the ve oil pump aswell

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: May 24th, 2012, 10:34 am
by dread_2002
THE SYNDICATE wrote:or he can boost a DE like me... half the cost of a DET and same gains with proper tuning! ;)



When u boosting the DE did u put in Oil squirters or go play up with the internals at all?

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: May 30th, 2012, 7:09 am
by NXTREME
IMHO i think firstly it depends on how much power u want.

If u dont plan on crossing 400hp i dont see the need to go VE-T.

I have seen stock DETs take well over 350hp with just simple upgrades as stage 2 cams, t3/t4, 850cc inj and a PROPERLY tuned emanage Ultimate.

In the case where u want more than 400hp i think VE-T is the better build with some headwork, n1 cams, a forged low compression block ofcourse and a "junk" of bigg turbo like a GTX35 :mrgreen:

At the end of this discussion and all opinions noted, a DET head cud never flow as well as a VE head stock for stock.

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: May 30th, 2012, 12:10 pm
by THE SYNDICATE
dread_2002 wrote:
THE SYNDICATE wrote:or he can boost a DE like me... half the cost of a DET and same gains with proper tuning! ;)



When u boosting the DE did u put in Oil squirters or go play up with the internals at all?


stock internals and no oil squirters....and my car is an everyday driving car from central to POS.

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: June 8th, 2012, 7:20 pm
by V2NR 3.0
VET - talk done

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: June 10th, 2012, 9:03 am
by yakuza
NXTREME wrote:a DET head cud never flow as well as a VE head stock for stock.

Stock VE head out flows a fully ported DET also.

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: June 13th, 2012, 7:23 am
by NXTREME
BOOOST all d ve's!!!! :evilbat:




or



ve all the det's :|

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: June 13th, 2012, 7:32 am
by THE SYNDICATE
^^like the second idea there! :D

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: October 14th, 2012, 2:04 pm
by Dennis61
The anticipation of Vvl on a det sounds like the way to go, so I may not sell the Vvl after all. ;-)

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: October 22nd, 2012, 6:21 am
by THE SYNDICATE
^let us know how it goes! 8-)

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: September 12th, 2013, 9:28 pm
by Dennis61
I eventually went DET :grin:8-)I still have the VE although its up for sale so anything could happen. What's the average cost for the labour?

Re: WTK: SR20VE+T or DET

Posted: September 13th, 2013, 12:58 am
by Ted_v2
Throw on the head.