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Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby agent007 » November 19th, 2019, 10:53 pm

The highest trim RAV4 we get at TTTL is the 2.0 2WD with 18” rims, leather seats and sunroof which goes for $419k. I was told you can order the 2.5 awd model which has 19” rims for around $600k. The 419 model has manual folding wing mirrors.

Permit me to act as a Toyota sales rep:
the value proposition of a RAV4 is in its name combined with the best Reliability and resale value in its class. You do not need awd or power folding mirrors because we took note of the high probability of losing said wing mirror on a narrow main road where a ph wetman would side swipe your vehicle eventually. We are saving you the replacement cost for a mirror which power folds. Awd adds weight and reduces power and fuel economy. 2WD will take you safely to fete, cinema, grocery, work, relatives, kfc and back home.

So that’s less drivetrain maintenance than the Subaru Forester and we $40k cheaper.

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Postby drchaos » November 19th, 2019, 11:19 pm

Actually, power folding mirrors prevent you from losing your mirrors on a narrow road.

1 button and the mirrors safely tucked away from de wetmen.

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Postby Shalom Vanamson » November 20th, 2019, 2:32 pm

New Accord arrived for 399k with the 1.5 turbo engine. Android auto and Apple carplay Remote start etc.

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Postby PariaMan » November 20th, 2019, 3:31 pm

Shalom Vanamson wrote:New Accord arrived for 399k with the 1.5 turbo engine. Android auto and Apple carplay Remote start etc.
Smaller engine cheaper price?

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Postby sweeks » November 20th, 2019, 8:57 pm

PariaMan wrote:Smaller engine cheaper price?



Wishful thinking !

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Postby Shalom Vanamson » November 20th, 2019, 9:49 pm

PariaMan wrote:
Shalom Vanamson wrote:New Accord arrived for 399k with the 1.5 turbo engine. Android auto and Apple carplay Remote start etc.
Smaller engine cheaper price?
To me it could of been cheaper because of that engine but oh well it isnt bad I guess

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Postby drchaos » November 20th, 2019, 11:19 pm

Shalom Vanamson wrote:
PariaMan wrote:
Shalom Vanamson wrote:New Accord arrived for 399k with the 1.5 turbo engine. Android auto and Apple carplay Remote start etc.
Smaller engine cheaper price?
To me it could of been cheaper because of that engine but oh well it isnt bad I guess


If they can't blame the engine size and tax for ze high price they will probably say some equine sheit like " it hard to get forex, hence the price is such".

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Postby drchaos » November 20th, 2019, 11:37 pm

Its also very interesting that the Civic starts at 20.5k in the US and the Accord starts at 23.8 K so a 3.3K USD difference.

Same engine size ... but here in T&T its a 17.64K USD difference?

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Postby PariaMan » November 21st, 2019, 4:56 am

drchaos wrote:Its also very interesting that the Civic starts at 20.5k in the US and the Accord starts at 23.8 K so a 3.3K USD difference.

Same engine size ... but here in T&T its a 17.64K USD difference?
As usual Trinis being taken for a ride we are a gullible bunch

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Postby Rory Phoulorie » November 21st, 2019, 7:32 am

You all are forgetting to take into account economies of scale when it comes to comparing the prices of LHD and RHD models of the same car. The LHD cars are produced in greater quantities than RHD cars.

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Postby drchaos » November 21st, 2019, 8:23 am

Rory Phoulorie wrote:You all are forgetting to take into account economies of scale when it comes to comparing the prices of LHD and RHD models of the same car. The LHD cars are produced in greater quantities than RHD cars.


Maybe 20 years ago ... These days RHD and LHD produced in the same factories and even on the same assembly lines.

Just more fluff from sales people.

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Postby agent007 » November 21st, 2019, 9:57 am

The dealership cartel will continue with their unethical practices whether we rant about it or not. The Honda city was once sold at $150k and then they brought in the supposed CNG version which is just a retrofitted vehicle and suddenly the current price is $179k tax free lol.

Classic always brought in 3 accords: fabric, leather and leather V6 for 315k, 379k and 550-600k thereabouts for the last generation.

If they were interested in passing the tax savings to the customer, a fully equipped 1.5T should not cost more than 320k but they looking at previous models in terms of equipment and power. That said, the 1.5T is far superior to the 2.0 R20 engine and even the K24 which we never got for an Accord. So this new turbo motor is probably on par if not a better performer than the 3.0 sohc 24v vtec v6 found in the 03-07 model so they will probably try that sales pitch angle to justify the price.

A Kia Optima can be purchased now for as little as 325k and that’s a 2.0. Of course how dare I compare Korean junk to Jap engineering right? Well the Mazda 6 2.0 can be had for less than 340k with leather and Bose and we all know, that 6 is truly a drivers car.

Since Classic pushes Honda locally as a near premium brand, expect them to sell well within the ANSA group and the 1 and 2 % circle. For 20k less, might as well buy a CRV.

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Postby timothymcdavid » November 21st, 2019, 12:19 pm

Have Honda sorted out the oil dilution problem in the 1.5 turbo engine?

A base Civic costs less than a base Mazda 3 according to Edmunds so I dont get what the local dealers are on about.

Honda's styling right now is way off Mazda has the interiors down pat and the looks exteriors spot on imho which again looks are subjective.

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Postby CloudBoi » November 21st, 2019, 12:21 pm

agent007 wrote:The dealership cartel will continue with their unethical practices whether we rant about it or not. The Honda city was once sold at $150k and then they brought in the supposed CNG version which is just a retrofitted vehicle and suddenly the current price is $179k tax free lol.

Classic always brought in 3 accords: fabric, leather and leather V6 for 315k, 379k and 550-600k thereabouts for the last generation.

If they were interested in passing the tax savings to the customer, a fully equipped 1.5T should not cost more than 320k but they looking at previous models in terms of equipment and power. That said, the 1.5T is far superior to the 2.0 R20 engine and even the K24 which we never got for an Accord. So this new turbo motor is probably on par if not a better performer than the 3.0 sohc 24v vtec v6 found in the 03-07 model so they will probably try that sales pitch angle to justify the price.

A Kia Optima can be purchased now for as little as 325k and that’s a 2.0. Of course how dare I compare Korean junk to Jap engineering right? Well the Mazda 6 2.0 can be had for less than 340k with leather and Bose and we all know, that 6 is truly a drivers car.

Since Classic pushes Honda locally as a near premium brand, expect them to sell well within the ANSA group and the 1 and 2 % circle. For 20k less, might as well buy a CRV.


The state of vehicle pricing here really makes me feel to vomit.
On a slightly related note, anyone knows if there have been any price changes with BMW since the shift in dealership owner?

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Postby drchaos » November 21st, 2019, 1:46 pm

timothymcdavid wrote:Have Honda sorted out the oil dilution problem in the 1.5 turbo engine?

A base Civic costs less than a base Mazda 3 according to Edmunds so I dont get what the local dealers are on about.

Honda's styling right now is way off Mazda has the interiors down pat and the looks exteriors spot on imho which again looks are subjective.


They claim they did a software fix, but who knows if it solves the problem. Engine is too efficient at cooling so warms up slowly so people who do short trips may see issues faster.
Oil dilution problems will show up after 5 years plus

Way after warranty is up so they can blame you for ruffing up the car.

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Postby agent007 » November 21st, 2019, 4:24 pm

Got these photos which was circulating on a car group:

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Postby shaneelal » November 21st, 2019, 5:15 pm

TOYOTA-LAUNCH-07.jpg

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Postby rebound » November 21st, 2019, 6:18 pm

More like the new Corolla front light is here

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Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby StefanH2 » November 22nd, 2019, 6:01 am

I can confirm that the Ertiga is in fact still being registered as a full 7 seater on the certified copy.
StefanH2 wrote:Would definitely check that out when I take delivery of the vehicle next week.
agent007 wrote:Oh boy, then if that is the case, it is incumbent upon the dealership to inform the customer prior to registering a vehicle that the CCO will indicate “5 passengers” instead of “7”. No one will ever want an instance where the Police or Licensing Officers stop you to give you a ticket if you have your family/friends etc occupying the third row seat.

Stefan, would you do us a favor and check your CCO to determine if this is true?

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Postby agent007 » November 22nd, 2019, 8:07 am

Well done buddy, much thanks for the confirmation and congrats again on your sweet ride!

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Postby telfer » November 22nd, 2019, 10:58 am

agent007 wrote:Got these photos which was circulating on a car group:

IMG-20191121-WA0004.jpeg
IMG-20191121-WA0005.jpeg
IMG-20191121-WA0001.jpeg
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Yup the “new”accord Trinidad so lame that model out 2 years now and it now reach here

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Postby rebound » November 23rd, 2019, 9:57 am

Just saw a few with Demo plates...it actually has a very nice presence on the road, in person.
shaneelal wrote:
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Postby sweeks » November 23rd, 2019, 5:23 pm

rebound wrote:Just saw a few with Demo plates...it actually has a very nice presence on the road, in person.
shaneelal wrote:
TOYOTA-LAUNCH-07.jpg


Price??

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Postby A172 » November 25th, 2019, 8:37 am

the e250 amg line in the first post for 675 is the 2019 w213?

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Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby slacker_83 » November 28th, 2019, 3:31 pm

So... the X1 starting at 320 at Lafast.

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Re: T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

Postby carluva » November 28th, 2019, 4:53 pm

Is that a reasonable price compared to the previous dealer?

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Postby rebound » November 28th, 2019, 6:01 pm

True, because they start at 36k usd...not a bad price at all.

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Postby slacker_83 » November 29th, 2019, 6:41 am

carluva wrote:Is that a reasonable price compared to the previous dealer?
Around $50,000 cheaper. Not sure it it is the same spec.

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Postby Ryan197912 » November 29th, 2019, 8:11 am

:lol: Black Friday sale on cars too...

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Postby Monk BANzai » November 29th, 2019, 1:10 pm

M240i form LaFast..... heard the list price is close to $600k...

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