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SYKO wrote: Secondly the niro is supposed to give about 1000 kms with my driving, according to what I read with the sportage it should give about 800.
So funny question... How many powertrain parts are interchangeable between the brands.jhonnieblue wrote:I have both and my advice would be to stay as far away from southern sales as possible. Terrible service and issues getting parts for the Sportage. Massy is decent so far with the ioniq. But both cars drive great just fuel consumption is high for the Sportage.
kamakazi wrote:So funny question... How many powertrain parts are interchangeable between the brands.jhonnieblue wrote:I have both and my advice would be to stay as far away from southern sales as possible. Terrible service and issues getting parts for the Sportage. Massy is decent so far with the ioniq. But both cars drive great just fuel consumption is high for the Sportage.
Ioniq and Niro
Sportage/Cerato/Elantra
I'm in no way excusing SS but what parts do their vehicles usually call for. I would like to think that a similar component can be had from Hyundai
triniboi49 wrote:What's the typical practice by the dealers in Trinidad regarding the provision of a courtesy/loaner if your vehicle is in the dealership for an extended period for a warranty issue?
lancer_man wrote:Has anyone with the 2017-2019 CR-V or Civic with the 1.5T engine seen issues with oil dilution locally?
I’m considering the CR-V, but not if the resale value will drop due to engine problems.
Sales rep says no reported issues, but I’m a bit hesitant to take their word for it.
lancer_man wrote:Has anyone with the 2017-2019 CR-V or Civic with the 1.5T engine seen issues with oil dilution locally?
I’m considering the CR-V, but not if the resale value will drop due to engine problems.
Sales rep says no reported issues, but I’m a bit hesitant to take their word for it.
Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:Anybody hear anything problematic with the new Chevy Cruz?
drchaos wrote:lancer_man wrote:Has anyone with the 2017-2019 CR-V or Civic with the 1.5T engine seen issues with oil dilution locally?
I’m considering the CR-V, but not if the resale value will drop due to engine problems.
Sales rep says no reported issues, but I’m a bit hesitant to take their word for it.
You won't know if you have an issue unless you actually send your oil in for an oil analysis. Otherwise people claiming they have the vehicle for X months and they don't have a problem should be taken with a grain of salt.
The other issue is these engines are very new on the market and the problems associated with oil dilution shows up years later not a few months into ownership. Honda says they fixed the problem by using software fix which affects valve and fuel timings and warming up the engine faster
Now onto one more thing ... The manual of the Civic says to use 0w-20 but 5w30/10w30 can be used (which means less Ideal). The engine was designed for 0w20 and this is even for our car which is for the Thai/Malay/Aussie market. The engine was designed for low friction operation and the 0w20 does a better job than heavier oils. Higher friction means more wear and tear. In addition flow characteristics of higher weighted oil are slower which means less lubrication on startup.
I have been using 0w20 Valvoline or Castrol designed for GDI turbo engines. These oils have actually shown to have better protection from carbon build up which will be an issues with these engines (as in all GDI turbo engines). So no I dont trust the dealer on this and their use of 5w30 oil.
SLVR1 wrote:My question is; where can I get an oil dilution test done locally that is internationally certified? Maybe is it something worth doing as owners of new 1.5T engines?
drchaos wrote:lancer_man wrote:Has anyone with the 2017-2019 CR-V or Civic with the 1.5T engine seen issues with oil dilution locally?
I’m considering the CR-V, but not if the resale value will drop due to engine problems.
Sales rep says no reported issues, but I’m a bit hesitant to take their word for it.
You won't know if you have an issue unless you actually send your oil in for an oil analysis. Otherwise people claiming they have the vehicle for X months and they don't have a problem should be taken with a grain of salt.
The other issue is these engines are very new on the market and the problems associated with oil dilution shows up years later not a few months into ownership. Honda says they fixed the problem by using software fix which affects valve and fuel timings and warming up the engine faster
Now onto one more thing ... The manual of the Civic says to use 0w-20 but 5w30/10w30 can be used (which means less Ideal). The engine was designed for 0w20 and this is even for our car which is for the Thai/Malay/Aussie market. The engine was designed for low friction operation and the 0w20 does a better job than heavier oils. Higher friction means more wear and tear. In addition flow characteristics of higher weighted oil are slower which means less lubrication on startup.
I have been using 0w20 Valvoline or Castrol designed for GDI turbo engines. These oils have actually shown to have better protection from carbon build up which will be an issues with these engines (as in all GDI turbo engines). So no I dont trust the dealer on this and their use of 5w30 oil.
agent007 wrote:SYKO, ask yourself, do you see yourself in a Kia Sportage 5 yrs from now? Are you prepared to keep this vehicle for longer or would you sell in a few short years where the resale value would take a huge hit? Are you really willing to commit to SS just to keep your warranty? If your answers to the questions are yes then cool. It’s your money, organize as you see fit.
My advice would be to stay far from such a crossover. A Kia Sportage is a lackluster product imo in all areas and what is catching people is that price. Consider stuff like the Toyota rush 1.5, Suzuki Vitara 1.6 and Subaru XV 1.6 awd. The Subaru is 225k, gives you 8.7” of ground clearance, awd and better resale value. You also mentioned Kia Niro, if you hell bent on Kia, forget that Niro. You would thank me later on.
agent007 wrote:Bigmerv,
XV 2.0 is a world vehicle. Parts can easily be sourced online. Subaru dealers in Miami will have lots of parts and consumables ready to ship if you find Massy is giving trouble. The 1.6 shares the same body and suspension parts but the engine is different. The US market does not get the 1.6 so quick little purchases might be a little tougher for that smaller motor.
Vezel is known as HRV in non hybrid form. Vezel is 1.5 and the HRV is 1.8. Support will be easier for the HRV and the R18 engine is also found in the Civic since 2005. You will get good support from Miami as well for this one. As for the Vezel, I do not trust that transmission and a portion of the drive menu display screen AFAIK cannot be changed from Jap to English. When it comes to support, you’re screwed because those grey market dealers generally don’t have a clue on how to service and fix what they sell and critical communication from the manufacturer is absent because again those grey market dealers are not recognized by the auto manufacturers as authorized sellers.
Rush is the slowest but shares an 8.7” ground clearance like the XV. RWD only on a fully boxed ladder frame chassis. It uses a 1.5 EMPFI as opposed to GDI so concerning our terrible gas we get here, this engine might last the longest and the transmission is a 4-speed torque converter automatic, not some CVT or dual clutch that spells trouble in years to come. Reliability and resale should be second to none. Support? You are tied to TTTL for this one as this Toyota doesn’t exist in North America. If TTTL screws you over, then you will have to order directly from an Asian country.
If it were my choice?
1st XV 2.0
2nd Rush
Distant 3rd Vezel.
If hybrid is a must then consider the CHR or Xtrail. If those are too much then you have the non hybrid CHR 1.2T and Qashqai 1.2T available grey market ie. roro dealers
kamakazi wrote:drchaos wrote:lancer_man wrote:Has anyone with the 2017-2019 CR-V or Civic with the 1.5T engine seen issues with oil dilution locally?
I’m considering the CR-V, but not if the resale value will drop due to engine problems.
Sales rep says no reported issues, but I’m a bit hesitant to take their word for it.
You won't know if you have an issue unless you actually send your oil in for an oil analysis. Otherwise people claiming they have the vehicle for X months and they don't have a problem should be taken with a grain of salt.
The other issue is these engines are very new on the market and the problems associated with oil dilution shows up years later not a few months into ownership. Honda says they fixed the problem by using software fix which affects valve and fuel timings and warming up the engine faster
Now onto one more thing ... The manual of the Civic says to use 0w-20 but 5w30/10w30 can be used (which means less Ideal). The engine was designed for 0w20 and this is even for our car which is for the Thai/Malay/Aussie market. The engine was designed for low friction operation and the 0w20 does a better job than heavier oils. Higher friction means more wear and tear. In addition flow characteristics of higher weighted oil are slower which means less lubrication on startup.
I have been using 0w20 Valvoline or Castrol designed for GDI turbo engines. These oils have actually shown to have better protection from carbon build up which will be an issues with these engines (as in all GDI turbo engines). So no I dont trust the dealer on this and their use of 5w30 oil.
Does it specifically say to use 0w20 or does it give a list of viscosities based on temp like the picture in the previous post by SLVR1
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