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i wonder if it is from Massy?tropi_flakes wrote:Spotted a Hyundai Kona on D plates fully electric, had presence on the road
PariaMan wrote:i wonder if it is from Massy?tropi_flakes wrote:Spotted a Hyundai Kona on D plates fully electric, had presence on the road
drchaos wrote:The weird thing is the KONA and Ioniq electric are the same price in foreign markets.
I hope they dont try to buss higher price on us cause its a cross over.
cannot see much need for charging stations in a small island like trinidad once we have a range of about 400 km?Kenjo wrote:drchaos wrote:The weird thing is the KONA and Ioniq electric are the same price in foreign markets.
I hope they dont try to buss higher price on us cause its a cross over.
This and the niro are actually supposed to be top notch but the production numbers are unable to keep up to demand internationally . We need more charging stations though but for a regular 9-5 working person the charging overnight should be just fine
What is the purpose of an ev. A hybrid I understand, but an ev doesn't make any sense to meKenjo wrote:drchaos wrote:The weird thing is the KONA and Ioniq electric are the same price in foreign markets.
I hope they dont try to buss higher price on us cause its a cross over.
This and the niro are actually supposed to be top notch but the production numbers are unable to keep up to demand internationally . We need more charging stations though but for a regular 9-5 working person the charging overnight should be just fine
To increase fuel efficiency; but it also adds another point of failure into the system.PariaMan wrote:A hybrid no longer makes sense to me
Why have 2 systems?
Might as well go all the way to EV once thhe range is at least 300 km
With that the battery will just have to be topped of every night
Its a small island super chargers are only required for long trips which we do not have
Kenjo wrote:drchaos wrote:The weird thing is the KONA and Ioniq electric are the same price in foreign markets.
I hope they dont try to buss higher price on us cause its a cross over.
This and the niro are actually supposed to be top notch but the production numbers are unable to keep up to demand internationally . We need more charging stations though but for a regular 9-5 working person the charging overnight should be just fine
kamakazi wrote:To increase fuel efficiency; but it also adds another point of failure into the system.PariaMan wrote:A hybrid no longer makes sense to me
Why have 2 systems?
Might as well go all the way to EV once thhe range is at least 300 km
With that the battery will just have to be topped of every night
Its a small island super chargers are only required for long trips which we do not have
While Trinidad is small, and Tobago smaller, an ev is the only vehicle in which you are range limited. It doesn't really allow for random events without careful consideration.
What are the benefits for having such a huge downside?
300km is 300 km . EV are not like ICE the only time the range goes down is when you speeding . At standstill you will only be using power for the ACpipser wrote:EV mileage is always quoted in the distance that you are able to travel but the time to travel that distance is not always equal.
Consider this, I am leaving Diego after work on a Friday evening to go Mayaro for the weekend. I leave home lets say 6 pm because I want to avoid some traffic but that drive still takes me roughly 3 hours because I am observing the speed limit and some of those roads are really bad so you have to take your time. I'm using the A/C, radio and lights plus carrying the extra weight of all we need for the weekend. Now the distance traveled in that 3 hours isn't 150 km but the car has been working for that length of time. I am now in Mayaro at my designated beach house where I now hope that the layout of the electrical is such that I can charge overnight but lets say for argument sake that isn't the case, when I am leaving now on Sunday to go back home I take another 3 hours to get there.
How many of you can say that you would not be worried about running out of juice on that drive back home even though you haven't traveled the estimated 300 km that the vehicle is rated to go?
kamakazi wrote:@j.o.e
It is way different
So let's say you reach in POS, and for whatever reason you have to head down mayaro. Ten minutes in a gas station and I good for the journey and the return... And if not gas and keep going.
With an ev... You taking the first five minutes to calculate on Waze and your phone to see if you have energy to cover that distance. Even if there were charging stations you would then have to calculate or maybe have the vehicle calculate how long you should remain at said charging station.
Even if I running near to Empty.
10 minutes in a fuel station and I'm good.
Vs... Well we have no infrastructure to charge vehicles so that vehicle will be parked up charging for the next couple of hours.
Run out of fuel vs running out of charge... One trip to the gas station, buy a gallon of fuel and... Well I think you get the idea.
EVs just don't allow the convenience of topping up in a couple minutes. It restricts mobility.
j.o.e wrote:kamakazi wrote:@j.o.e
It is way different
So let's say you reach in POS, and for whatever reason you have to head down mayaro. Ten minutes in a gas station and I good for the journey and the return... And if not gas and keep going.
With an ev... You taking the first five minutes to calculate on Waze and your phone to see if you have energy to cover that distance. Even if there were charging stations you would then have to calculate or maybe have the vehicle calculate how long you should remain at said charging station.
Even if I running near to Empty.
10 minutes in a fuel station and I'm good.
Vs... Well we have no infrastructure to charge vehicles so that vehicle will be parked up charging for the next couple of hours.
Run out of fuel vs running out of charge... One trip to the gas station, buy a gallon of fuel and... Well I think you get the idea.
EVs just don't allow the convenience of topping up in a couple minutes. It restricts mobility.
Unless random runs from south to POS back to Mayaro is a norm then you’re just thinking of a situation that will cause you to run out. That’s a very unlikely route for most people and the idea is to weigh out $$$ savings over risk of running out of charge. It is very hard to cover 300km as a regular driver in one day on this island and if you do you should rethink where you live/work.
I’m not talking about a delivery vehicle or taxi just a regular family vehicle.
kamakazi wrote:j.o.e wrote:kamakazi wrote:@j.o.e
It is way different
So let's say you reach in POS, and for whatever reason you have to head down mayaro. Ten minutes in a gas station and I good for the journey and the return... And if not gas and keep going.
With an ev... You taking the first five minutes to calculate on Waze and your phone to see if you have energy to cover that distance. Even if there were charging stations you would then have to calculate or maybe have the vehicle calculate how long you should remain at said charging station.
Even if I running near to Empty.
10 minutes in a fuel station and I'm good.
Vs... Well we have no infrastructure to charge vehicles so that vehicle will be parked up charging for the next couple of hours.
Run out of fuel vs running out of charge... One trip to the gas station, buy a gallon of fuel and... Well I think you get the idea.
EVs just don't allow the convenience of topping up in a couple minutes. It restricts mobility.
Unless random runs from south to POS back to Mayaro is a norm then you’re just thinking of a situation that will cause you to run out. That’s a very unlikely route for most people and the idea is to weigh out $$$ savings over risk of running out of charge. It is very hard to cover 300km as a regular driver in one day on this island and if you do you should rethink where you live/work.
I’m not talking about a delivery vehicle or taxi just a regular family vehicle.
That actually happens...I do learn your country drives and that is pretty much how it goes.
The situation above did kinda happen (minus the bit from the bamboo to POS)
Started Sando, Classes in Chaguanas,
purchased headlights in the bamboo. Got an invite from my colleagues for a lime in Mayaro. Back Sando then down to Palo Seco.
Random runs, while they aren't the norm, do still happen. (Just put fuel when I needed)
Regenerative braking cannot add mileage to an EV, unless the entire journey is all down hill. (The law that states energy can neither be created or destroyed)
The current kona EV is 400 km of range for most people that is by far sufficientAllergic2BunnyEars wrote:kamakazi wrote:j.o.e wrote:kamakazi wrote:@j.o.e
It is way different
So let's say you reach in POS, and for whatever reason you have to head down mayaro. Ten minutes in a gas station and I good for the journey and the return... And if not gas and keep going.
With an ev... You taking the first five minutes to calculate on Waze and your phone to see if you have energy to cover that distance. Even if there were charging stations you would then have to calculate or maybe have the vehicle calculate how long you should remain at said charging station.
Even if I running near to Empty.
10 minutes in a fuel station and I'm good.
Vs... Well we have no infrastructure to charge vehicles so that vehicle will be parked up charging for the next couple of hours.
Run out of fuel vs running out of charge... One trip to the gas station, buy a gallon of fuel and... Well I think you get the idea.
EVs just don't allow the convenience of topping up in a couple minutes. It restricts mobility.
Unless random runs from south to POS back to Mayaro is a norm then you’re just thinking of a situation that will cause you to run out. That’s a very unlikely route for most people and the idea is to weigh out $$$ savings over risk of running out of charge. It is very hard to cover 300km as a regular driver in one day on this island and if you do you should rethink where you live/work.
I’m not talking about a delivery vehicle or taxi just a regular family vehicle.
That actually happens...I do learn your country drives and that is pretty much how it goes.
The situation above did kinda happen (minus the bit from the bamboo to POS)
Started Sando, Classes in Chaguanas,
purchased headlights in the bamboo. Got an invite from my colleagues for a lime in Mayaro. Back Sando then down to Palo Seco.
Random runs, while they aren't the norm, do still happen. (Just put fuel when I needed)
Regenerative braking cannot add mileage to an EV, unless the entire journey is all down hill. (The law that states energy can neither be created or destroyed)
You’re clearly the exception and not the norm. Wait till EV range increases. You should be good by 2025. For everyone else current EV range is sufficient.
Any pics yet?bess almera wrote:New Mazda 3 front and interior have some appeal
PariaMan wrote:
And yes every time you brake you can add range do a lil research nah
Regenerative braking uses an electric vehicle’s motor as a generator to convert much of the kinetic energy lost when decelerating back into stored energy in the vehicle’s batterykamakazi wrote:PariaMan wrote:
And yes every time you brake you can add range do a lil research nah
I again say it does not and again will point to the first law of thermodynamics: "energy cannot be created or destroyed"
If you do not understand something this fundamental it doesn't make any sense going forward.
PariaMan wrote:Any pics yet?bess almera wrote:New Mazda 3 front and interior have some appeal
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