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carluva wrote:With proper care and service, your maintenance regime should not have abnormal surprises.
The only foreseeable issue is steering column. While few and far between, it has affected RAV4. The sign is a kinda of squishy sound while turning the steering accompanied by a slight looseness of steering. The cause, as I understand, is due to a seal in the steering column. My RAV4 was under warranty when this occurred about three years ago and with several calls and elevating to higher management, a new steering column was ordered and replaced. My issue with TTTL was not that they didn't want to cover the replacement rather, noone could of advise with certainty on the status of the replacement.
I understand that the seal could be replaced but TTTL opted to replace the entire column as a "safeguard". Back then, the cost of the column was TT$22,000.
This issue is not rampant though, and the greater majority of vehicles are unaffected. I was just one of the unlucky ones.
Aside from that, you will be good to go with the 2016 model. Injectors may need to be replaced but that is fairly normal with any car. Just service your injectors regularly, do the regular tuneups and the recommended major maintenance at the correct intervals and your vehicle will be in tip top condition.
PS, if you would like a number for an excellent service tech, let me know. You can ask him to scan the car prior to purchase and perhaps do a quick general inspection (at your cost) and thereafter use him for your service. PM me if your are interested.Redo6 wrote:Agent007 and carluva, thanks guys.
I'm hedging towards the local used Rav4 as well and that car seat info hit the spot dey lol
Question tho, 2016 rav4, would u forsee many maintenance issues in the best future...
As this is another consideration as well.
What does the steering rack or steering cloumn noise sound like? I think i have a ticking sound when i turn the steering too much to make a 90 degree turn.Capleton wrote:carluva wrote:With proper care and service, your maintenance regime should not have abnormal surprises.
The only foreseeable issue is steering column. While few and far between, it has affected RAV4. The sign is a kinda of squishy sound while turning the steering accompanied by a slight looseness of steering. The cause, as I understand, is due to a seal in the steering column. My RAV4 was under warranty when this occurred about three years ago and with several calls and elevating to higher management, a new steering column was ordered and replaced. My issue with TTTL was not that they didn't want to cover the replacement rather, noone could of advise with certainty on the status of the replacement.
I understand that the seal could be replaced but TTTL opted to replace the entire column as a "safeguard". Back then, the cost of the column was TT$22,000.
This issue is not rampant though, and the greater majority of vehicles are unaffected. I was just one of the unlucky ones.
Aside from that, you will be good to go with the 2016 model. Injectors may need to be replaced but that is fairly normal with any car. Just service your injectors regularly, do the regular tuneups and the recommended major maintenance at the correct intervals and your vehicle will be in tip top condition.
PS, if you would like a number for an excellent service tech, let me know. You can ask him to scan the car prior to purchase and perhaps do a quick general inspection (at your cost) and thereafter use him for your service. PM me if your are interested.Redo6 wrote:Agent007 and carluva, thanks guys.
I'm hedging towards the local used Rav4 as well and that car seat info hit the spot dey lol
Question tho, 2016 rav4, would u forsee many maintenance issues in the best future...
As this is another consideration as well.
My dad has a 2015 RAV4, (dealer maintained). Just Monday he had it serviced and they were telling him something about either the steering column or steering rack needed replacing at some astronomical figure around that same $22K you mentioned. Other than that, the material used on the steering wheel (synthetic leather) peels out from the steering wheel and then you just end up with a urethane looking steering wheel. The first time it happened the steering wheel was replaced under warranty. My advice would be to put a steering cover on the steering wheel. I hate steering wheel covers though, too bulky and ugly!
aaron17 wrote:What does the steering rack or steering cloumn noise sound like? I think i have a ticking sound when i turn the steering too much to make a 90 degree turn.Capleton wrote:carluva wrote:With proper care and service, your maintenance regime should not have abnormal surprises.
The only foreseeable issue is steering column. While few and far between, it has affected RAV4. The sign is a kinda of squishy sound while turning the steering accompanied by a slight looseness of steering. The cause, as I understand, is due to a seal in the steering column. My RAV4 was under warranty when this occurred about three years ago and with several calls and elevating to higher management, a new steering column was ordered and replaced. My issue with TTTL was not that they didn't want to cover the replacement rather, noone could of advise with certainty on the status of the replacement.
I understand that the seal could be replaced but TTTL opted to replace the entire column as a "safeguard". Back then, the cost of the column was TT$22,000.
This issue is not rampant though, and the greater majority of vehicles are unaffected. I was just one of the unlucky ones.
Aside from that, you will be good to go with the 2016 model. Injectors may need to be replaced but that is fairly normal with any car. Just service your injectors regularly, do the regular tuneups and the recommended major maintenance at the correct intervals and your vehicle will be in tip top condition.
PS, if you would like a number for an excellent service tech, let me know. You can ask him to scan the car prior to purchase and perhaps do a quick general inspection (at your cost) and thereafter use him for your service. PM me if your are interested.Redo6 wrote:Agent007 and carluva, thanks guys.
I'm hedging towards the local used Rav4 as well and that car seat info hit the spot dey lol
Question tho, 2016 rav4, would u forsee many maintenance issues in the best future...
As this is another consideration as well.
My dad has a 2015 RAV4, (dealer maintained). Just Monday he had it serviced and they were telling him something about either the steering column or steering rack needed replacing at some astronomical figure around that same $22K you mentioned. Other than that, the material used on the steering wheel (synthetic leather) peels out from the steering wheel and then you just end up with a urethane looking steering wheel. The first time it happened the steering wheel was replaced under warranty. My advice would be to put a steering cover on the steering wheel. I hate steering wheel covers though, too bulky and ugly!
kamakazi wrote:AWD only helps when there is a loss of traction when accelerating. The only time it helps during cornering is when you are accelerating out of the corner. The only time it helps with stability is when you are accelerating on a slippery surface.
It doesn't help any other time. Have to make this distinction as people feel they can drive or corner faster, brake later, etc. in the wet, and the system will help them out.
drchaos wrote:kamakazi wrote:AWD only helps when there is a loss of traction when accelerating. The only time it helps during cornering is when you are accelerating out of the corner. The only time it helps with stability is when you are accelerating on a slippery surface.
It doesn't help any other time. Have to make this distinction as people feel they can drive or corner faster, brake later, etc. in the wet, and the system will help them out.
This is so true!
To actually be able to get a benefit out of having an AWD car you have to change your driving psyche. We are programmed to slam the brakes when there is trouble. TO accelerate out of a problem requires a different state of mind.
agent007 wrote:Cloudboi, sorry I now saw your post. Don’t hold your breath on that one. I have a feeling we will see it in 2022.
feeldavibe wrote:Looking forward to the new Tucson. It's on my list. I'd like to look at the new Elantra too but my sales rep informed me that they are all gone and they have nun to look at. You'd think Massy could keep a demo car for people to see. Do people regularly buy cars without even seeing it in person first?
I think he meant going and placing a order for a car without even seeing it in the showroom first, so you buying a car without ever sitting in one or taking a test drive. I know it happens, but how often I can't say.A172 wrote:feeldavibe wrote:Looking forward to the new Tucson. It's on my list. I'd like to look at the new Elantra too but my sales rep informed me that they are all gone and they have nun to look at. You'd think Massy could keep a demo car for people to see. Do people regularly buy cars without even seeing it in person first?
yeah, think about it this way
Say they have a shipment of 100 vehicles coming in. While the units in transit people applying for their loans and getting conditional approvals, especially for 100% financing. Massy would receive 100 approvals before those units even land, so when they clear is just to license, deliver & collect payment.
Then it would have people like you who think it would have one waiting for you to see after shipment arrives and then make a decision. Obv they wouldn't care about u
Trust me ..it looking like the last elantra with triangles...i saw it on the road.feeldavibe wrote:Looking forward to the new Tucson. It's on my list. I'd like to look at the new Elantra too but my sales rep informed me that they are all gone and they have nun to look at. You'd think Massy could keep a demo car for people to see. Do people regularly buy cars without even seeing it in person first?
aaron17 wrote:Ent small cars are not good in crashes?
Redo6 wrote:Agent007 and carluva, thanks guys.
I'm hedging towards the local used Rav4 as well and that car seat info hit the spot dey lol
Question tho, 2016 rav4, would u forsee many maintenance issues in the best future...
As this is another consideration as well.
aaron17 wrote:Does the fully loaded corolla comes with led headlights? I know mazda has it.
My next vehicle definitely has to have led and i am impressed with hrv and even the suzuki swift led headlights.
feeldavibe wrote:Looking forward to the new Tucson. It's on my list. I'd like to look at the new Elantra too but my sales rep informed me that they are all gone and they have nun to look at. You'd think Massy could keep a demo car for people to see. Do people regularly buy cars without even seeing it in person first?
kamakazi wrote:It's one thing to look at the age of a vehicle for longevity; remember to consider mileage as well.
Hyundai vehicles still don't age very well. Prepare for some pain just after 50000kms and a world of hurt if you think about doubling or even tripling that. Some of the strangest design decisions I have ever seen. . .
Rory Phoulorie wrote:kamakazi wrote:It's one thing to look at the age of a vehicle for longevity; remember to consider mileage as well.
Hyundai vehicles still don't age very well. Prepare for some pain just after 50000kms and a world of hurt if you think about doubling or even tripling that. Some of the strangest design decisions I have ever seen. . .
I think it all has to do with proper maintenance. People's general perception of the Korean cars being low quality cars results in them skimping on the manufacturer's recommended maintenance schedule, thus leading to issues occurring prematurely with these cars.
I have owned and driven two Hyundais from new, an Accent and a Coupe. I had the Accent for 10 years and 230,000km before selling it and had no real issues with it, other than the cracked plastic dashboard. I currently still have the Coupe and after 14 years and 221,000km, I have had no significant issues with it. I have changed a few ABS sensors, but that's about it. These Hyundais required no additional maintenance over the Mitsubishi Lancer that I also own, and the other Toyotas, Mazdas and Mitsubishi vehicles that I have had the responsibility of overseeing maintenance of.
Rory Phoulorie wrote:kamakazi wrote:It's one thing to look at the age of a vehicle for longevity; remember to consider mileage as well.
Hyundai vehicles still don't age very well. Prepare for some pain just after 50000kms and a world of hurt if you think about doubling or even tripling that. Some of the strangest design decisions I have ever seen. . .
I think it all has to do with proper maintenance. People's general perception of the Korean cars being low quality cars results in them skimping on the manufacturer's recommended maintenance schedule, thus leading to issues occurring prematurely with these cars.
I have owned and driven two Hyundais from new, an Accent and a Coupe. I had the Accent for 10 years and 230,000km before selling it and had no real issues with it, other than the cracked plastic dashboard. I currently still have the Coupe and after 14 years and 221,000km, I have had no significant issues with it. I have changed a few ABS sensors, but that's about it. These Hyundais required no additional maintenance over the Mitsubishi Lancer that I also own, and the other Toyotas, Mazdas and Mitsubishi vehicles that I have had the responsibility of overseeing maintenance of.
agent007 wrote:aaron17 wrote:Ent small cars are not good in crashes?
Carluva, a second hand Fortuner? How are those 1KD’s holding up? The oldest Fortuner on our road is almost 16 yrs old and personally, for the few I’m aware about, sadly, they did not age well. I would prefer the 2.7 2TR petrol version.
Gladiator wrote:Well you guys jut killed my Tucson dreams... and it was going to be my first Korean
feeldavibe wrote:Gladiator wrote:Well you guys jut killed my Tucson dreams... and it was going to be my first Korean
Yuh undertsand?
Everything else is so expensive though and they come with zero features. Man, I guess most people don't study features like me. I see plenty people in brand new Benz driving and talking on their cell phone still when CLEARLY that car would at least have bluetooth if not Apple carplay. So what? They just don't use it or don't know?
mitch1980 wrote:feeldavibe wrote:Gladiator wrote:Well you guys jut killed my Tucson dreams... and it was going to be my first Korean
Yuh undertsand?
Everything else is so expensive though and they come with zero features. Man, I guess most people don't study features like me. I see plenty people in brand new Benz driving and talking on their cell phone still when CLEARLY that car would at least have bluetooth if not Apple carplay. So what? They just don't use it or don't know?
Agreed with you here.
SOmehow the models we get are basic and marketed as a form of loaded.
Personal preference for me have been on the Japanese vehicles - Toyota/Honda/Nissan.
I don't buy a vehicle unless i can easily get a part as resonable rates.
With my usage of driving south -north return trip daily i have been using a Hilux - 700+ per fill up.
I had a 2011 3.0l sold it for the 2019 2.9 mid spec. I never test drove or physically checked the Hilux in firm till I collected it. (Yes i have some level of Faith in the vehicle).
With the price paid in 2019 for the Mid Spec was 295k - I simply changed out the Garbage Deck for a JVC 950 touch with android auto and a HD reverse camera.
was not willing to pay an additional 22,000 k for the 18inch rim and newer lights DRL model.
Currently the same midspec is 332,000 TTD.
Realized this 2019 Hilux will be kept for avg 10 years.
the prices are ridiculous now.
and i do believe you can buy the basic model and upgrade certain elements like a Deck, light camera , sensors later on.
carluva wrote:mitch1980 wrote:feeldavibe wrote:Gladiator wrote:Well you guys jut killed my Tucson dreams... and it was going to be my first Korean
Yuh undertsand?
Everything else is so expensive though and they come with zero features. Man, I guess most people don't study features like me. I see plenty people in brand new Benz driving and talking on their cell phone still when CLEARLY that car would at least have bluetooth if not Apple carplay. So what? They just don't use it or don't know?
Agreed with you here.
SOmehow the models we get are basic and marketed as a form of loaded.
Personal preference for me have been on the Japanese vehicles - Toyota/Honda/Nissan.
I don't buy a vehicle unless i can easily get a part as resonable rates.
With my usage of driving south -north return trip daily i have been using a Hilux - 700+ per fill up.
I had a 2011 3.0l sold it for the 2019 2.9 mid spec. I never test drove or physically checked the Hilux in firm till I collected it. (Yes i have some level of Faith in the vehicle).
With the price paid in 2019 for the Mid Spec was 295k - I simply changed out the Garbage Deck for a JVC 950 touch with android auto and a HD reverse camera.
was not willing to pay an additional 22,000 k for the 18inch rim and newer lights DRL model.
Currently the same midspec is 332,000 TTD.
Realized this 2019 Hilux will be kept for avg 10 years.
the prices are ridiculous now.
and i do believe you can buy the basic model and upgrade certain elements like a Deck, light camera , sensors later on.
I couldn't agree with you more Mitch. For that $22,000 extra, it is better to use the rubber your van came with and at the tyre change, replace the wheels if so desired. And you can do a proper SQ system and still be under the $22,000. On the wheels note, the amount of persons swapping out stock rims on Hilux is no joke so you can easily pick up a set of the 18" Toyota if you look carefully enough and still be under 22k. In 2019, I got a set of the 18" with the Michellin tyres with 250km on them (previous owner collected his van one day and the next day he took it to replace the wheels and tyres) for $6,500 and sold the 17" on my van to a fellow tuner for $3,000. So $3,500 for a new set of wheels isn't all that bad... Plus, the previous owner was the one who paid the 22k extra, so its no surprise who won there.
Features such as cruise control, push to start, "tiptronic" gears and paddle shifters (lol at paddle shifters cause what can you possible do with those in a 1.5 or 1.6 engine car beats me) are all a further waste of time, money and presents additional electronics which can fail. And personally, what is the big deal and/or benefit of the DRL? To this day, noone has been able to convince me of its purpose, but I remain open minded to a plausible reason. And for those of you who have wives that use a vehicle with push to start, tell me the truth... How many times have you been looking for the fob when it was in their handbag? Or have you ever left the car on and locked the doors as normal and go about your business? That has happened to me twice with the RAV4, but fortunately I realised that the doors were not locking so I went in to discover my error. Push to start is not worth it for me as an additional feature I should pay for. If it is standard, no issue, but I prefer to not pay extra for that given the inconvenience it can cause.
People need to temper expectations and choose the vehicles for what they want and not what the dealer is trying to sell you.
But again, that is my perspective and I am not trying to force this on anyone, but rather offering a view for consideration. After all, the more views on the table, the better informed we can all be wrt a vehicle purchase.
feeldavibe wrote:carluva wrote:mitch1980 wrote:feeldavibe wrote:Gladiator wrote:Well you guys jut killed my Tucson dreams... and it was going to be my first Korean
Yuh undertsand?
Everything else is so expensive though and they come with zero features. Man, I guess most people don't study features like me. I see plenty people in brand new Benz driving and talking on their cell phone still when CLEARLY that car would at least have bluetooth if not Apple carplay. So what? They just don't use it or don't know?
Agreed with you here.
SOmehow the models we get are basic and marketed as a form of loaded.
Personal preference for me have been on the Japanese vehicles - Toyota/Honda/Nissan.
I don't buy a vehicle unless i can easily get a part as resonable rates.
With my usage of driving south -north return trip daily i have been using a Hilux - 700+ per fill up.
I had a 2011 3.0l sold it for the 2019 2.9 mid spec. I never test drove or physically checked the Hilux in firm till I collected it. (Yes i have some level of Faith in the vehicle).
With the price paid in 2019 for the Mid Spec was 295k - I simply changed out the Garbage Deck for a JVC 950 touch with android auto and a HD reverse camera.
was not willing to pay an additional 22,000 k for the 18inch rim and newer lights DRL model.
Currently the same midspec is 332,000 TTD.
Realized this 2019 Hilux will be kept for avg 10 years.
the prices are ridiculous now.
and i do believe you can buy the basic model and upgrade certain elements like a Deck, light camera , sensors later on.
I couldn't agree with you more Mitch. For that $22,000 extra, it is better to use the rubber your van came with and at the tyre change, replace the wheels if so desired. And you can do a proper SQ system and still be under the $22,000. On the wheels note, the amount of persons swapping out stock rims on Hilux is no joke so you can easily pick up a set of the 18" Toyota if you look carefully enough and still be under 22k. In 2019, I got a set of the 18" with the Michellin tyres with 250km on them (previous owner collected his van one day and the next day he took it to replace the wheels and tyres) for $6,500 and sold the 17" on my van to a fellow tuner for $3,000. So $3,500 for a new set of wheels isn't all that bad... Plus, the previous owner was the one who paid the 22k extra, so its no surprise who won there.
Features such as cruise control, push to start, "tiptronic" gears and paddle shifters (lol at paddle shifters cause what can you possible do with those in a 1.5 or 1.6 engine car beats me) are all a further waste of time, money and presents additional electronics which can fail. And personally, what is the big deal and/or benefit of the DRL? To this day, noone has been able to convince me of its purpose, but I remain open minded to a plausible reason. And for those of you who have wives that use a vehicle with push to start, tell me the truth... How many times have you been looking for the fob when it was in their handbag? Or have you ever left the car on and locked the doors as normal and go about your business? That has happened to me twice with the RAV4, but fortunately I realised that the doors were not locking so I went in to discover my error. Push to start is not worth it for me as an additional feature I should pay for. If it is standard, no issue, but I prefer to not pay extra for that given the inconvenience it can cause.
People need to temper expectations and choose the vehicles for what they want and not what the dealer is trying to sell you.
But again, that is my perspective and I am not trying to force this on anyone, but rather offering a view for consideration. After all, the more views on the table, the better informed we can all be wrt a vehicle purchase.
I hear you on gimmick features like paddle shifters on a 1.6L engine. Cruise control I disagree. I drive up and down the highway for work and I want cruise control, furthermore, I want dynamic cruise control so the car will slow and accelerate itself, cuz I know people gonna reply to me saying 'yeah but you have to disengage the cruise control every 5 mins cuz people driving slow in the overtake lane'. Dynamic cruise control is built for this. This is pretty much a standard feature in other countries. I just took a peek inside a X5 and a Porsche Macan, both had cruise control but niether had dynamic cruise control. Seriously Trinidad.
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