T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

[SLVR1]

Quick question to those with the 1.5 turbo CRV ... Yall using super or premium?

Super. I tried the premium once and found I got some very minor idling issues but it did not affect the actual running of the vehicle.

[SLVR1]

Bigmerv, the 1.6 should be okay for the warranty period. If you intend to keep beyond the warranty then start looking at your options by 150k kms. Whilst I do have confidence in those engines generally, things can get iffy in that 150-200k range. Even still, there are quite a few Subaru specialists that can work on your vehicle when/if that time comes. I’d go for it still. $225k for a vehicle with one of the worlds best awd systems is something hard to pass up on. I think the Suzuki Vitara 1.6 Allgrip is in that price range too.

Drchaos, premium since day 1.

I understand that Subaru has had issues with head-gasket failure based on my research when they reach higher in mileage. While I like the vehicle and the ground clearance, if it was my money Honda or Toyota would get it. If you wait a little longer, the HRV was release in Europe(https://www.motor1.com/news/282068/2019 ... -revealed/) with the 1.5T so it may reach our shores before you know it.

[bigmerv]

Bigmerv, the 1.6 should be okay for the warranty period. If you intend to keep beyond the warranty then start looking at your options by 150k kms. Whilst I do have confidence in those engines generally, things can get iffy in that 150-200k range. Even still, there are quite a few Subaru specialists that can work on your vehicle when/if that time comes. I’d go for it still. $225k for a vehicle with one of the worlds best awd systems is something hard to pass up on. I think the Suzuki Vitara 1.6 Allgrip is in that price range too.

Drchaos, premium since day 1.

I understand that Subaru has had issues with head-gasket failure based on my research when they reach higher in mileage. While I like the vehicle and the ground clearance, if it was my money Honda or Toyota would get it. If you wait a little longer, the HRV was release in Europe(https://www.motor1.com/news/282068/2019 ... -revealed/) with the 1.5T so it may reach our shores before you know it.

I wonder what the price point would be for that 1.5T.

[4Motion]

Anybody hear anything problematic with the new Chevy Cruz?

We have one fully loaded LTZ. No problems at all. Car is great value for money. Great build quality. Packed with features. Powerful (in its class) and comfortable. Got one of the first ones on the market. 2017 almost 2 years old.

[shaneelal]

Does anyone know when Toyota will start selling the 2020 corolla locally?

[DASSMASS]

Browsed showroom today... Hyundai CRETA $195K and Kia SPORTAGE $210K...what thoughts on those?
BOTH are less than the RORO Vezels $225K AND local HRV $259K

[DJ Q]

RORO Vezel @225 is Brand New... and would be wayyy more featured packed than anything local in that price bracket.
Used Vezels will start at $145K or thereabout.

[agent007]

Choosing between a Vezel, Creta and Sportage would be tough for me. I don’t like any of them especially the last 2. If a 210k (see it went up by $7k?....told you guys SS will price it like a 2.0 soon to make more money on alluh head) Sportage GDI 1.6 was the best I could do in terms of brand new vehicles then I’ll buy a roro March instead so I could figure it out from there than to settle for that nonsense.

Putting my bias aside, the Vezel wins because of features, fuel economy, performance, handling and looks. The Creta wins for simplicity especially with its non GDI engine. The Sportage wins on price for the size since it may be by a small margin, the biggest of the 3.

Don’t be confused with the word big associated with a Sportage as it’s still small in relation to the sea of crossover competitors out there. In terms of after sale support, the Vezel you are blessed to have none. The Sportage even though sold by an authorized dealer for Kia comes as though you purchased it from a grey market/roro dealer because SS and support don’t go together. Creta May get some support from Massy, nothing special but it better than nothing.

The Creta is from India, the Sportage from South Korea and the Vezel is from Japan. The DCT in the Vezel requires a unique prayer and holy water sprinkling from the Father at Mt. St. Benedict. This is tough. It’s like asking me to choose Aunt Esther, Calypso Rose, or Marlene McDonald. But one has to win so my order with a heavy heart is:
1st Sportage
2nd Creta
3rd Vezel

[snypaz]

In those three choices I also think the Sportage wins. That's just me and I hate SS and Kia.

[jl6106]

Second hand RAV4

[DASSMASS]

Choosing between a Vezel, Creta and Sportage would be tough for me. I don’t like any of them especially the last 2. If a 210k (see it went up by $7k?....told you guys SS will price it like a 2.0 soon to make more money on alluh head) Sportage GDI 1.6 was the best I could do in terms of brand new vehicles then I’ll buy a roro March instead so I could figure it out from there than to settle for that nonsense.

Putting my bias aside, the Vezel wins because of features, fuel economy, performance, handling and looks. The Creta wins for simplicity especially with its non GDI engine. The Sportage wins on price for the size since it may be by a small margin, the biggest of the 3.

Don’t be confused with the word big associated with a Sportage as it’s still small in relation to the sea of crossover competitors out there. In terms of after sale support, the Vezel you are blessed to have none. The Sportage even though sold by an authorized dealer for Kia comes as though you purchased it from a grey market/roro dealer because SS and support don’t go together. Creta May get some support from Massy, nothing special but it better than nothing.

The Creta is from India, the Sportage from South Korea and the Vezel is from Japan. The DCT in the Vezel requires a unique prayer and holy water sprinkling from the Father at Mt. St. Benedict. This is tough. It’s like asking me to choose Aunt Esther, Calypso Rose, or Marlene McDonald. But one has to win so my order with a heavy heart is:
1st Sportage
2nd Creta
3rd Vezel

commentary ftw hmm

[DASSMASS]

Second hand RAV4

from?

[mtec]

Why not consider a new Vitara? Starting price isn't bad and it's genuinely reliable. You're getting a proven engine/ transmission combination and a decent overall package.

[kamakazi]

What classifies as a small SUV and what is a crossover... The lines seem to have been blurred.
I had classed in small SUV
Kia Sportage
RAV 4
CR-V
Tucson
Kuga
Xtrail
CX-5
Q5
New Forester
Grand Vitara

In the crossover segment I had
Hr-V
Niro
XV
Old Forester
Vitara
Soul
Creta
Cx-3
Rush

[agent007]

My definition is consistent with the position of some auto journalists and it is:

Crossover - unibody based on a car platform with a fwd biased awd option. The vehicle will have a rear hatch and a higher ground clearance than a car. It should be noted some crossovers are available as fwd only where no awd option is available.

Some examples found locally:
(Small) CHR, Qashqai, Juke, HRV/Vezel, XV, CX3, ASX, Eclipse Cross, Vitara, SX4 S-Cross, Ignis, Creta, i20 Activ, Trax, EcoSport, Niro
(Medium) Harrier, Rav4, CRV, Xtrail, Outlander, Tribute, CX5, Forester, Tucson, Sportage, Equinox, Escape, Kuga, Tiguan
(Large) Pathfinder, Murano, CX-9, Outback, Santa Fe, Sorento, Touareg

SUV - body-on-frame/ladder frame chassis like those derived from a pickup with a permanent or part time 4wd system that is rear wheel biased.

Some examples found locally:
(Small) - Jimny, Rocky, Terios, Rush*
(Medium) - Rodeo, Grand Vitara
(Large) - LX570, Land Cruiser 70 series, Land Cruiser Prado, Land Cruiser, FJ Cruiser, Patrol, Pajero, XL-7, Terracan, Trooper, MU-X, Trailblazer, Everest

*The Rush is probably the first 2wd body on frame SUV I can think about. It’s a bit of an anomaly but because it’s rwd with a ladder frame chassis, I won’t call it a crossover.

[DASSMASS]

Why not consider a new Vitara? Starting price isn't bad and it's genuinely reliable. You're getting a proven engine/ transmission combination and a decent overall package.

hmmm it was on the list as #4 might move it up

[DASSMASS]

What classifies as a small SUV and what is a crossover... The lines seem to have been blurred.
I had classed in small SUV
Kia Sportage
RAV 4
CR-V
Tucson
Kuga
Xtrail
CX-5
Q5
New Forester
Grand Vitara

In the crossover segment I had
Hr-V
Niro
XV
Old Forester
Vitara
Soul
Creta
Cx-3
Rush

hmmm good feedback
"For many car experts, the difference between the two is simple: A crossover is based on a car's platform, while an SUV uses the chassis of a truck. The result is that crossovers use "unibody" architecture, meaning the body and frame are one piece, while SUVs use a "body on frame" design."

[DASSMASS]

My definition is consistent with the position of some auto journalists and it is:

Crossover - unibody based on a car platform with a fwd biased awd option. The vehicle will have a rear hatch and a higher ground clearance than a car. It should be noted some crossovers are available as fwd only where no awd option is available.

Some examples found locally:
(Small) CHR, Qashqai, Juke, HRV/Vezel, XV, CX3, ASX, Eclipse Cross, Vitara, SX4 S-Cross, Ignis, Creta, i20 Activ, Trax, EcoSport, Niro
(Medium) Harrier, Rav4, CRV, Xtrail, Outlander, Tribute, CX5, Forester, Tucson, Sportage, Equinox, Escape, Kuga, Tiguan
(Large) Pathfinder, Murano, CX-9, Outback, Santa Fe, Sorento, Touareg

SUV - body-on-frame/ladder frame chassis like those derived from a pickup with a permanent or part time 4wd system that is rear wheel biased.

Some examples found locally:
(Small) - Jimny, Rocky, Terios, Rush*
(Medium) - Rodeo, Grand Vitara
(Large) - LX570, Land Cruiser 70 series, Land Cruiser Prado, Land Cruiser, FJ Cruiser, Patrol, Pajero, XL-7, Terracan, Trooper, MU-X, Trailblazer, Everest

*The Rush is probably the first 2wd body on frame SUV I can think about. It’s a bit of an anomaly but because it’s rwd with a ladder frame chassis, I won’t call it a crossover.

hmmm noted

[Pirate]

The best crossover in that segment I would choose is the XV.

[lancer_man]

2.5L RAV4 seems to be available at Maska.

http://www.maskamotors.com/index.php/vehicle-listings/full-listings/detail/35-toyota-rav4-2-0

[~Vēġó~]

Good info wrt x-over and suv...

[drchaos]

2.5L RAV4 seems to be available at Maska.

http://www.maskamotors.com/index.php/vehicle-listings/full-listings/detail/35-toyota-rav4-2-0

They have been known to copy and paste descriptions from US sites ...

Only saw the 2.0 advertised on FB.

[mantis]

What's your thinking on the new Ford pickup...

[lancer_man]

2.5L RAV4 seems to be available at Maska.

http://www.maskamotors.com/index.php/vehicle-listings/full-listings/detail/35-toyota-rav4-2-0

They have been known to copy and paste descriptions from US sites ...

Only saw the 2.0 advertised on FB.

I called and they said they had a 2.5L hybrid available for something ridiculous over $600K.

[zando]

With the exception of the Grand Vitara, all of those are CUV's

What classifies as a small SUV and what is a crossover... The lines seem to have been blurred.
I had classed in small SUV
Kia Sportage
RAV 4
CR-V
Tucson
Kuga
Xtrail
CX-5
Q5
New Forester
Grand Vitara

In the crossover segment I had
Hr-V
Niro
XV
Old Forester
Vitara
Soul
Creta
Cx-3
Rush

[drchaos]

2.5L RAV4 seems to be available at Maska.

http://www.maskamotors.com/index.php/vehicle-listings/full-listings/detail/35-toyota-rav4-2-0

They have been known to copy and paste descriptions from US sites ...

Only saw the 2.0 advertised on FB.

I called and they said they had a 2.5L hybrid available for something ridiculous over $600K.

Not bad ... sounds cheaper than TTTL.

[SLVR1]

Maska has the 2018 CR-V starting at $335,000.00 new with 3 yr. warranty. The specs. do not appear to be the same as what is at CM but rather falls between the base and FL models. Not bad if they are really new and not showroom or demo cars.

[rebound]

TTTL is 720k

2.5L RAV4 seems to be available at Maska.

http://www.maskamotors.com/index.php/vehicle-listings/full-listings/detail/35-toyota-rav4-2-0

They have been known to copy and paste descriptions from US sites ...

Only saw the 2.0 advertised on FB.

I called and they said they had a 2.5L hybrid available for something ridiculous over $600K.

Not bad ... sounds cheaper than TTTL.

[aaron17]

New rav4 looks weird in person.

[SLVR1]

TTTL is 720k

2.5L RAV4 seems to be available at Maska.

http://www.maskamotors.com/index.php/vehicle-listings/full-listings/detail/35-toyota-rav4-2-0

They have been known to copy and paste descriptions from US sites ...

Only saw the 2.0 advertised on FB.

I called and they said they had a 2.5L hybrid available for something ridiculous over $600K.

Not bad ... sounds cheaper than TTTL.

Who would pay that for a RAV4? The benefits of being hybrid are outweighed by the price imo.