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EcoTune Trinidad wrote:Why would BMW AG make a world model car for 91ron when they dont even have that up there?
You sure its not 91 octane?those N20 engines suffer from piston failures and 92ron gonna see issues eventually
car wrote:EcoTune Trinidad wrote:Why would BMW AG make a world model car for 91ron when they dont even have that up there?
You sure its not 91 octane?those N20 engines suffer from piston failures and 92ron gonna see issues eventually
By the time the engine starts to give trouble the warranty would be over and original owner would have done pass it to the 2nd owner for $65k.
All them foreign used small car like the note with the HR engine needs premium. Men who buy those car aint putting premium.
zando wrote:car wrote:EcoTune Trinidad wrote:Why would BMW AG make a world model car for 91ron when they dont even have that up there?
You sure its not 91 octane?those N20 engines suffer from piston failures and 92ron gonna see issues eventually
By the time the engine starts to give trouble the warranty would be over and original owner would have done pass it to the 2nd owner for $65k.
All them foreign used small car like the note with the HR engine needs premium. Men who buy those car aint putting premium.
I saw someone putting super in one of those new sentras, but I thought they used premium...
EcoTune Trinidad wrote:Why would BMW AG make a world model car for 91ron when they dont even have that up there?
You sure its not 91 octane?those N20 engines suffer from piston failures and 92ron gonna see issues eventually
agent007 wrote:I remember asking a bmw sales rep once about the super vs premium issue in a 320i and he told me if you fill with the super your hp will drop to 170 and the premium would be around 185?? He further lamented, if you not driving aggressively or going up hills, it's ok to use the super cause most people will not feel a 15hp difference. Maybe the expert can say if there is any truth to it.
EcoTune Trinidad wrote:Why would BMW AG make a world model car for 91ron when they dont even have that up there?
You sure its not 91 octane?those N20 engines suffer from piston failures and 92ron gonna see issues eventually
Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:Y'all really shouldn't listen to sales men for technical issues.
scotty_buttons wrote:agent007 wrote:I remember asking a bmw sales rep once about the super vs premium issue in a 320i and he told me if you fill with the super your hp will drop to 170 and the premium would be around 185?? He further lamented, if you not driving aggressively or going up hills, it's ok to use the super cause most people will not feel a 15hp difference. Maybe the expert can say if there is any truth to it.
Heard the same from BMW and Audi reps as well.
Personally know a B8 A4 running on super for four years so far. No problems detected either.
I personally wouldn't chance it though.
Merc reps told me strictly premium.
EcoTune Trinidad wrote:scotty_buttons wrote:agent007 wrote:I remember asking a bmw sales rep once about the super vs premium issue in a 320i and he told me if you fill with the super your hp will drop to 170 and the premium would be around 185?? He further lamented, if you not driving aggressively or going up hills, it's ok to use the super cause most people will not feel a 15hp difference. Maybe the expert can say if there is any truth to it.
Heard the same from BMW and Audi reps as well.
Personally know a B8 A4 running on super for four years so far. No problems detected either.
I personally wouldn't chance it though.
Merc reps told me strictly premium.
The owner must be hardly using boost in high rpm...they day they do god forbid they will eventually see turbo failure from improper lubrication -cooked turbo, not to mention excessive wear in the valve train from the ecu constantly tryna retard timing...anyway not my car so....
agent007 wrote:My wife told me recently I going mad lol but I swear I saw a couple years back that Massy (Neal & Massy then) advertised in the papers that the Tiida with the HR16DE engine requires premium! That is the exact engine currently in the B17 Sentra. The B17 Sylphy uses the MRA8DE engine which is an upgraded MR18DE and that I was told can use the super safely. What's funny also is the Corolla INZ-FE and 3ZZ-FE also requires premium whereas the 1ZZ-FE can take super.
Concerning Euros and I always wanted to ask Ecotune this but our 2011 Passat 1.8 TSI is seeing super since the day it was purchased from Best Auto and it runs fine. Info we got since the earlies were: it can take the super however models from PDC to present requires premium only or something like that. Only things changed in the car was the mechatronic, water pump and alternator and mileage is around 113k now. Are we in for piston failure in the future?
car wrote:agent007 wrote:My wife told me recently I going mad lol but I swear I saw a couple years back that Massy (Neal & Massy then) advertised in the papers that the Tiida with the HR16DE engine requires premium! That is the exact engine currently in the B17 Sentra. The B17 Sylphy uses the MRA8DE engine which is an upgraded MR18DE and that I was told can use the super safely. What's funny also is the Corolla INZ-FE and 3ZZ-FE also requires premium whereas the 1ZZ-FE can take super.
Concerning Euros and I always wanted to ask Ecotune this but our 2011 Passat 1.8 TSI is seeing super since the day it was purchased from Best Auto and it runs fine. Info we got since the earlies were: it can take the super however models from PDC to present requires premium only or something like that. Only things changed in the car was the mechatronic, water pump and alternator and mileage is around 113k now. Are we in for piston failure in the future?
HR engines are the compact engine version that requires the premium due to the high compression. MR are full size engines like the GA and QG that can use super.
drchaos wrote:On the civic front. Has first service so far 6 months only managed to make around 4800 KM. Service was fast and they went through each item on the service list. Cost was just under $1500, internationally Honda recommends 0W-20 but manual says you can use 0W-30 and 5W-30. Ansa put in 5W-30. Charged me almost $200 for a "octane booster/fuel treatment" I was like WTF so that will be off the bill next service.
Two problems with the car net says VSA modulator for clicking noises you hear from the dash and VTC actuator for grinding noise on ignition on warm start. They did not have scan tool for the car and only just got one in the country. Scanned the car and they say no error codes. But they said they want the car overnight and they need more info so they can get in contact with Honda helpline. So far they not denying the problem and they not acting like its my problem or blaming me in any way. They are genuinely trying to address the issue. Which to me is really good customer service. Will keep you all updated as this unfold.
nick639v2 wrote:Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:What does the owner's manual for the f30 say?
Thing is using the wrong RON fuel doesn't mean your car will raise a flag one time. You could even get knock and not realize.
Minimum 91
agent007 wrote:My wife told me recently I going mad lol but I swear I saw a couple years back that Massy (Neal & Massy then) advertised in the papers that the Tiida with the HR16DE engine requires premium! That is the exact engine currently in the B17 Sentra. The B17 Sylphy uses the MRA8DE engine which is an upgraded MR18DE and that I was told can use the super safely. What's funny also is the Corolla INZ-FE and 3ZZ-FE also requires premium whereas the 1ZZ-FE can take super.
Concerning Euros and I always wanted to ask Ecotune this but our 2011 Passat 1.8 TSI is seeing super since the day it was purchased from Best Auto and it runs fine. Info we got since the earlies were: it can take the super however models from PDC to present requires premium only or something like that. Only things changed in the car was the mechatronic, water pump and alternator and mileage is around 113k now. Are we in for piston failure in the future?
nick639v2 wrote:Either way if a man buying a Beemer or Audi and still watching premium to fill in the tank then he a sufferer.. Most of those cars have excellent mileage too
drchaos wrote:I know this has been probably been beaten to death on this thread but need a quick answer. Does the new FORD ranger with the 2.2 turbo diesel need a class 4 permit? Or would a class 3 permit work?
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