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Quick charging grid is coming soon. At massy locations and other select ones.greggle71 wrote:200km sounds a bit low, just me but I would prefer always having a hybrid so I would have a petrol back up in any eventuality
No charging station grid just yet so you would have to power up at home and given the regular power ups required relative to the range of the fully electric version what would be the incremental increase of your home electricity bill
PariaMan wrote:I fine with charging at home once I have a range of 300 km or higher
randolphinshan wrote:PariaMan wrote:I fine with charging at home once I have a range of 300 km or higher
But what is the point.Same carbon emissions. Instead of burning the fossil fuel in the engine, it being burnt in the power station.Only makes sense with rapid chargers using renewable energy.Plus the price is ridiculous...let them keep it
randolphinshan wrote:PariaMan wrote:I fine with charging at home once I have a range of 300 km or higher
But what is the point.Same carbon emissions. Instead of burning the fossil fuel in the engine, it being burnt in the power station.Only makes sense with rapid chargers using renewable energy.Plus the price is ridiculous...let them keep it
drchaos wrote:randolphinshan wrote:PariaMan wrote:I fine with charging at home once I have a range of 300 km or higher
But what is the point.Same carbon emissions. Instead of burning the fossil fuel in the engine, it being burnt in the power station.Only makes sense with rapid chargers using renewable energy.Plus the price is ridiculous...let them keep it
Price in the states starts at 29K multiply that by 8 and you get 236K ... starts at 240 in T&T.
Not bad if you ask me.
car wrote:drchaos wrote:randolphinshan wrote:PariaMan wrote:I fine with charging at home once I have a range of 300 km or higher
But what is the point.Same carbon emissions. Instead of burning the fossil fuel in the engine, it being burnt in the power station.Only makes sense with rapid chargers using renewable energy.Plus the price is ridiculous...let them keep it
Price in the states starts at 29K multiply that by 8 and you get 236K ... starts at 240 in T&T.
Not bad if you ask me.
Multiply by 7. They getting bank rates. So even below $7
Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:car wrote:drchaos wrote:randolphinshan wrote:PariaMan wrote:I fine with charging at home once I have a range of 300 km or higher
But what is the point.Same carbon emissions. Instead of burning the fossil fuel in the engine, it being burnt in the power station.Only makes sense with rapid chargers using renewable energy.Plus the price is ridiculous...let them keep it
Price in the states starts at 29K multiply that by 8 and you get 236K ... starts at 240 in T&T.
Not bad if you ask me.
Multiply by 7. They getting bank rates. So even below $7
He wasn’t pricing based on exchange rate. Just a general guide that you multiply us prices by 10 to get the TT price after you add duties, customs, vat plus dig out eye.
drchaos wrote:Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:car wrote:drchaos wrote:randolphinshan wrote:PariaMan wrote:I fine with charging at home once I have a range of 300 km or higher
But what is the point.Same carbon emissions. Instead of burning the fossil fuel in the engine, it being burnt in the power station.Only makes sense with rapid chargers using renewable energy.Plus the price is ridiculous...let them keep it
Price in the states starts at 29K multiply that by 8 and you get 236K ... starts at 240 in T&T.
Not bad if you ask me.
Multiply by 7. They getting bank rates. So even below $7
He wasn’t pricing based on exchange rate. Just a general guide that you multiply us prices by 10 to get the TT price after you add duties, customs, vat plus dig out eye.
Yeah Massy gets bank rates but you need to consider their overheads, brokerage and shipping on the item.
So lack of Duty and VAT on the item. Hence using a X8 conversion.
I am sure Massy is still making a nice/fat profit off these vehicles as they get distributor pricing ... I have heard it can as much as 60K for vehicles in the 200 to 300K price range.
kamakazi wrote:What is the going rate of the hybrid ioniqs
Cause the more I think about the all electric version... The more I realize that it doesn't make much sense.
If the hybrid is 30000 cheaper than the all electric.... That is a lot of money to spend on fuel and servicing. You are looking at 150000kms of driving using an estimate of 20km/litre.
You also are not hampered by any range restrictions. Insurance premiums and installments will be lower.
Having never seen an all electric vehicle... What in that vehicle requires regular servicing. What are they planning to do every 9 months.
randolphinshan wrote:drchaos wrote:Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:car wrote:drchaos wrote:randolphinshan wrote:PariaMan wrote:I fine with charging at home once I have a range of 300 km or higher
But what is the point.Same carbon emissions. Instead of burning the fossil fuel in the engine, it being burnt in the power station.Only makes sense with rapid chargers using renewable energy.Plus the price is ridiculous...let them keep it
Price in the states starts at 29K multiply that by 8 and you get 236K ... starts at 240 in T&T.
Not bad if you ask me.
Multiply by 7. They getting bank rates. So even below $7
He wasn’t pricing based on exchange rate. Just a general guide that you multiply us prices by 10 to get the TT price after you add duties, customs, vat plus dig out eye.
Yeah Massy gets bank rates but you need to consider their overheads, brokerage and shipping on the item.
So lack of Duty and VAT on the item. Hence using a X8 conversion.
I am sure Massy is still making a nice/fat profit off these vehicles as they get distributor pricing ... I have heard it can as much as 60K for vehicles in the 200 to 300K price range.
You are correct pallos.Massy then Neal and Massy Motors got the previous model Navara for 160 k. It was sold for 240 k average, for the 4 x4 auto fabric version. That is about 60 k profit after sales agents commission, etc....so you guys go ahead and fool yourself and multiply by 8, 10, etc.
PariaMan wrote:I fine with charging at home once I have a range of 300 km or higher
So my next question is how long is the warranty on both vehicles cause nobody spending money to service a vehicle at the dealership after the warranty... You kinda on your own at that point.PariaMan wrote:But if you were spending 1500 every 3 months servicing the hybrid that would be 4500 in 9 months. So you will be saving 3500 every 9 months. To save 35000 will take 90 months or about 7 years and that is not counting the fuel savings. Also no timing belts. Spark plugs and all that sort of things to ever change. I think in the long run you will easily make up that 40000
kamakazi wrote:So my next question is how long is the warranty on both vehicles cause nobody spending money to service a vehicle at the dealership after the warranty... You kinda on your own at that point.PariaMan wrote:But if you were spending 1500 every 3 months servicing the hybrid that would be 4500 in 9 months. So you will be saving 3500 every 9 months. To save 35000 will take 90 months or about 7 years and that is not counting the fuel savings. Also no timing belts. Spark plugs and all that sort of things to ever change. I think in the long run you will easily make up that 40000
RedVEVO wrote:PariaMan wrote:I fine with charging at home once I have a range of 300 km or higher
But TTEC rates going up
CNG is a better deal .
drchaos wrote:RedVEVO wrote:PariaMan wrote:I fine with charging at home once I have a range of 300 km or higher
But TTEC rates going up
CNG is a better deal .
CNG is a joke.
Only one OEM vehicle available and it sucks .... Plus any new vehicle install voids your warranty and add that to the fact that you will now have a vehicle without a trunk.
That really sucksdrchaos wrote:RedVEVO wrote:PariaMan wrote:I fine with charging at home once I have a range of 300 km or higher
But TTEC rates going up
CNG is a better deal .
CNG is a joke.
Only one OEM vehicle available and it sucks .... Plus any new vehicle install voids your warranty and add that to the fact that you will now have a vehicle without a trunk.
PariaMan wrote:That really sucksdrchaos wrote:RedVEVO wrote:PariaMan wrote:I fine with charging at home once I have a range of 300 km or higher
But TTEC rates going up
CNG is a better deal .
CNG is a joke.
Only one OEM vehicle available and it sucks .... Plus any new vehicle install voids your warranty and add that to the fact that you will now have a vehicle without a trunk.
RedVEVO wrote:PariaMan wrote:That really sucksdrchaos wrote:RedVEVO wrote:PariaMan wrote:I fine with charging at home once I have a range of 300 km or higher
But TTEC rates going up
CNG is a better deal .
CNG is a joke.
Only one OEM vehicle available and it sucks .... Plus any new vehicle install voids your warranty and add that to the fact that you will now have a vehicle without a trunk.
Per above is not the truth .. to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth
The CNG Civic is a best seller @ ANSA and very popular with the ladies.
kamakazi wrote:Next point of interest is charging time... It takes quite some time to charge this thing from household outlets which limits its effective range... Based on the EV charge time calculator and some rough calculations, Sando to POS is starting to approach the limits of daily use... Which might work for some.
The one day you have an emergency journey to make though, you will have to whip out the calculator to make sure you have the range. Would be interesting though if/when you can charge the vehicle while it is parked where you are working. Would be hilarious during the first few years when it have extension cords running to a car, and when they have parks reserved for EVs and ICE cars parked there.
RedVEVO wrote:PariaMan wrote:I fine with charging at home once I have a range of 300 km or higher
But TTEC rates going up
CNG is a better deal .
It's 10 hours if the battery is low... The higher it is the longer it takes to charge... Similar cell phone charging problemsdrchaos wrote:kamakazi wrote:Next point of interest is charging time... It takes quite some time to charge this thing from household outlets which limits its effective range... Based on the EV charge time calculator and some rough calculations, Sando to POS is starting to approach the limits of daily use... Which might work for some.
The one day you have an emergency journey to make though, you will have to whip out the calculator to make sure you have the range. Would be interesting though if/when you can charge the vehicle while it is parked where you are working. Would be hilarious during the first few years when it have extension cords running to a car, and when they have parks reserved for EVs and ICE cars parked there.
Well its not that bad ... Sando to POS and back works up to just over 100KM so you still have half the battery available. Also Hyundai is quite conservative with the battery range at 200KM ... Reviews have actually put the number closer to 250KM.
They also had a plan to install clipper Fast chargers at Massy stores nationwide, This seems to have stalled with shake up last year with senior management. Most people should be fine at home to charge over night should be around 10 hours with a standard home plug.
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