T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

[Joshie23]

With diesel going up every budget/review and projected to raise again end of this year. You guys still think buying them Vans is a good idea? Unless you have real work to do OFC.

The main thing they had going for them was cheap fuel ... otherwise they more expensive to maintain, lower legal highway speeds and poorer ride quality.

For me, the diesel wouldn't be the only selling point..the quality of our roads seems to be inversely proportional to the amount of money spent to 'maintain' them..these utes are coming with a lot more creature comforts that those of yesteryear, so they're just as suited to family as they are to farming. But I know with Euros (which are similarly priced, especially if you're looking at the FL Hilux or Ranger), they stand up well to the road conditions but they use premium..so for discussion sake..what's a better buy??

[agent007]

These are some pics I wanted to share. They are random and does not represent an order of preference. The Toyota Hilux, Isuzu D-Max and Volkswgaen Amarok will be posted soon to aid in clean/constructive discussion.

[kamakazi]

With diesel going up every budget/review and projected to raise again end of this year. You guys still think buying them monstrosities is a good idea?

The main thing they had going for them was cheap fuel ... otherwise they more expensive to maintain, lower legal highway speeds and poorer ride quality.

Yep... Still worth it
To each his/her own
It's a bit of a trade-off

Servicing costs are similar.
Can't argue with the ride quality but what I can say is that it's pretty decent at taking an unseen pothole in stride and continuing on its way
You got me beat on the speed limit. [DISAPPOINTED FACE]

What you do gain
Ground clearance, better visibility, ability to go off the paved route and the ability to carry items a car/suv can not.

[sekhar_777]

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[Rory Phoulorie]

. . . lower legal highway speeds . . ..

Other than the Ranger, which pickup truck has to comply with the 65km/h speed limit?

[kamakazi]

I think all

[Rory Phoulorie]

I think all

Yes, you are correct, they all have MGWs greater than 2540kg. I had a geriatric moment and mixed up the MGW for the speed limit with the MGW for the Class 4 permit.

[cinco]

Can't believe people still taking on ahsayingshit tho. That whole diatribe was moot by the fact the navarra is the base for Mercedes pickup. Fiat is clutching at straws to survive why would you base any decision in their choices

[drchaos]

Honda has an ad on its Facebook page for the new civic, the engine options on the ad are the 1.5 Turbo and a 1.6 NA.

hmmmmm......

[zando]

Yep, i saw it, left them a message and they called me, said they aren't getting cars until September but they're still receiving training on them, when the cars come in September they will have more info on features for our market, but if that turbo comes for sure, it will be one hell of a buy once the price point is good.

Jetta turbo at 250 to 260, so i would assume the Civic might be the same or a little more.

Honda has an ad on its Facebook page for the new civic, the engine options on the ad are the 1.5 Turbo and a 1.6 NA.

hmmmmm......

[Kronik]

What's the price on the new Chevy spark? Anyone check it out?

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Yep, i saw it, left them a message and they called me, said they aren't getting cars until September but they're still receiving training on them, when the cars come in September they will have more info on features for our market, but if that turbo comes for sure, it will be one hell of a buy once the price point is good.

Jetta turbo at 250 to 260, so i would assume the Civic might be the same or a little more.

Honda has an ad on its Facebook page for the new civic, the engine options on the ad are the 1.5 Turbo and a 1.6 NA.

hmmmmm......

Jetta's can be had for as low as 200-215. Most likely classic gonna come in at a very high pricepoint just like with the current civic.

[kamakazi]

Still trying to figure out why they pushing the brand as a luxury brand with those ridiculous prices

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Which brand?

[cinco]

Which brand?

Honda...

[drchaos]

Which brand?

Burned!!!

[drchaos]

What's the price on the new Chevy spark? Anyone check it out?

Spark?
Buy ah March and done nah bai.

[acesinghit]

I actually saw the 3rd gen new model spark on a road show like 2 months ago and it comes with a 1.4 dohc 16v twin VVT in-line 4 engine. Considering the size of the car this is not bad at all. I even saw it has projector HID and led running lights too. Considering a lot of these smaller roro nissans now have 1.2 3-cylinder engines, the spark now seems like a performance star in contrast. Not bad at all for the cheapest new car on the market.

[Dave]

Suzuki doesn't have the celerio again?

[acesinghit]

nope the celerio was discontinued a while ago.

Let's take a closer look at the history of some of these small cars locally:

Toyota Yaris hatchback - no longer imported quite a while now and 1.3L only
Daihatsu Sirion - TTTL no longer imports this brand. The Sirion was 1.3L only
Suzuki Celerio - LSM no longer imports it. This was a 1.0L 3-cylinder only
Hyundai Atos Prime - Mel's imported a few years ago IIRC and this was a 1.0L
Hyundai Getz - Mel's also imported these. It scored better than the Atos Prime but dismal sales nevertheless. These came with a 1.6L engine. Big displacement in this class!
Kia Avella - SS imported these years ago and they sold poorly. They came 1.5L (a Mazda engine actually)
Kia Pride - Like the Avella, the Pride sold in small numbers. These were 1.3L.
Kia Picanto - Most recent failure and these were 1.2L
Nissan Cube - believe it or not, NM at the time imported the first-gen cube for a short while. They failed eventually though and came 1.3L
Nissan March 1.2 - not sure if Massy still imports this car but sales struggled while they did for obvious reasons (more popular in roro market)
Fiat Punto - Like locals have sumtin' against Fiat in general. Nothing sells good from them over here. Only a few was imported years ago.
Chevy Joy/Opel Corsa - imported by SS for the Chevy and a now defunct company called Platinum Motors for the Opel. I think no one remembers them locally and I think even GM doesn't want to remember them either.

What seems consistent as of late are the Honda Fit, Suzuki Swift, Ford Fiesta and Chevy Spark. They sell by the little but at least that segment has some representation locally. I see the new entrant Mazda 2 also has a hatchback and these are 1.5 dohc 16v skyactiv. The Kia Rio hatchback is also selling adequately like its corporate sibling, the Hyundai Accent hb which is 1.6L.

[kamakazi]

nope the celerio was discontinued a while ago.

Let's take a closer look at the history of some of these small cars locally:

Toyota Yaris hatchback - no longer imported quite a while now and 1.3L only
Daihatsu Sirion - TTTL no longer imports this brand. The Sirion was 1.3L only
Suzuki Celerio - LSM no longer imports it. This was a 1.0L 3-cylinder only
Hyundai Atos Prime - Mel's imported a few years ago IIRC and this was a 1.0L
Hyundai Getz - Mel's also imported these. It scored better than the Atos Prime but dismal sales nevertheless. These came with a 1.6L engine. Big displacement in this class!
Kia Avella - SS imported these years ago and they sold poorly. They came 1.5L (a Mazda engine actually)
Kia Pride - Like the Avella, the Pride sold in small numbers. These were 1.3L.
Kia Picanto - Most recent failure and these were 1.2L
Nissan Cube - believe it or not, NM at the time imported the first-gen cube for a short while. They failed eventually though and came 1.3L
Nissan March 1.2 - not sure if Massy still imports this car but sales struggled while they did for obvious reasons (more popular in roro market)
Fiat Punto - Like locals have sumtin' against Fiat in general. Nothing sells good from them over here. Only a few was imported years ago.
Chevy Joy/Opel Corsa - imported by SS for the Chevy and a now defunct company called Platinum Motors for the Opel. I think no one remembers them locally and I think even GM doesn't want to remember them either.

What seems consistent as of late are the Honda Fit, Suzuki Swift, Ford Fiesta and Chevy Spark. They sell by the little but at least that segment has some representation locally. I see the new entrant Mazda 2 also has a hatchback and these are 1.5 dohc 16v skyactiv. The Kia Rio hatchback is also selling adequately like its corporate sibling, the Hyundai Accent hb which is 1.6L.

Does the older model i30 and i30sw qualify

[neexis]

Yeah Bunny talking sense, I hear that thing coming with the Dry clutch set up which means Jetta and last model Passat level of shenanigans.

After all the Dq200 issues they still using it.. smh

[trini mk5]

The superselect 4wd system gives you 4wd and locking diff on your demand with Dakar rally heritage built into the suspension. .

Are you literally just copying an pasting the brochure? What does that statement mean?
Is it the same like subaru"s rally heritage built into a 1.6ts?

[DJ Q]

Daihatsu Sirion - TTTL no longer imports this brand. The Sirion was 1.3L only

Sirions were offered in 1.3 & 1.5 variants.

[TTAutoGuide]

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Let us know what other vehicles you would like to see coverage of

[Kenjo]

TtAutoguide are you sure it's working ? I'm using my mobile but I'll double check on my laptop in a bit

[Kenjo]

Ok got it now !! 360 ready to go

[TTAutoGuide]

TtAutoguide are you sure it's working ? I'm using my mobile but I'll double check on my laptop in a bit

yeah we realised the link is opening the Facebook link in the browser instead of Facebook which is not rendering the 360.
You can visit the Facebook Page and the post it pinned if you wish to check it out. - http://www.Facebook.com/TTAutoGuide
Also let us know which vehicles you would like to see VR tours of!

[Dizzy28]

Heard Massy in talks with Hyundai to get the new 1.6 Turbo Tucson here.

Saw an ad in todays papers for Massy SUV Corner and they said the 1.6lT Tucson is available at a special introductory starting price of $255,000.

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

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