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Re: T&T OFFICIAL new vehicle prices and discussion thread

Postby SLVR1 » August 26th, 2018, 11:15 am

kamakazi wrote:
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EvoTarmac wrote:Thanks for the good advice guys. I actually did a test drive already and it's one of the better SUV's I have test drove. Very comfortable, spacious and the engine responded quite remarkable. Actually, it was the basic I drove and it's not very basic if you ask me. I would like to test drive the CX5 but SS servicing issues in the past have me thinking twice. I have never owned a Honda vehicle before, but with your reviews and my own interpretation, I think this might be the one.


Once you change your fluids at the regular intervals (I use only Honda Genuine) you should have no issues. I have family and friends that say how expensive Honda are to repair, the cost to service etc. but having owned one for 10 years from new I can attest that they are solid and reliable and do not cost much to service especially if you do the fluid changes for yourself (after the warranty period). Of course some question the reliability of these new turbo engines vs the NA ones but knowing Honda, they would ensure a solid product not to mentioned since you are buying from the firm, any recalls will be applied so that is peace of mind. As I said, my CR-V will come in around Nov./Dec. but the showroom was full of PDT ones waiting to be collected (about 6) so as Agent007 said, act now. Consider though, the basic ones only have front airbags vs the RVSi with its full complement.
Honda is expensive to maintain, usually when you have to replace parts. Parts places also charge more for Honda parts or want to sell you the more expensive aftermarket options.


You buy online and skybox it. Cheaper than the dealer and those autoshops. Aftermarket is not expensive but may give you issues.

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Re: T&T OFFICIAL new vehicle prices and discussion thread

Postby kamakazi » August 26th, 2018, 1:02 pm

Not always as easy as it sounds especially if your car isn't a model that sold worldwide or has unique features.
But that is probably changing now.
So about the aftermarket parts I talked about earlier...I just want people to understand that aftermarket makes quality parts as well. As far as I know...Honda doesn't make or manufacture fluids, sparkplugs, belts, shocks, bulbs, brakes, etc.
(Just using Honda as the example here)

Regarding new vehicles:
Manufacturers want you to buy their vehicles so they advertise how long their vehicle can go without having certain services done like oil changes or say things like lifetime fluid all to market a lower total cost of ownership

Dealers or service stations want you to come back as often as possible to have items serviced so they can charge you as much times as possible to have unnecessary services done and sell you whatever parts they have to sell

You have to understand this to make an informed decision.

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Re: T&T OFFICIAL new vehicle prices and discussion thread

Postby SLVR1 » August 26th, 2018, 1:25 pm

kamakazi wrote:Not always as easy as it sounds especially if your car isn't a model that sold worldwide or has unique features.
But that is probably changing now.
So about the aftermarket parts I talked about earlier...I just want people to understand that aftermarket makes quality parts as well. As far as I know...Honda doesn't make or manufacture fluids, sparkplugs, belts, shocks, bulbs, brakes, etc.
(Just using Honda as the example here)

Regarding new vehicles:
Manufacturers want you to buy their vehicles so they advertise how long their vehicle can go without having certain services done like oil changes or say things like lifetime fluid all to market a lower total cost of ownership

Dealers or service stations want you to come back as often as possible to have items serviced so they can charge you as much times as possible to have unnecessary services done and sell you whatever parts they have to sell

You have to understand this to make an informed decision.


You are correct, for instance the Serpentine Belts are made by Bando, spark plugs by Denso etc. Surprisingly, a Bando Belt may have a different appearance vs the OEM one made by them but function is the same and lifespan.
When I buy a vehicle I always look for one sold in the US/Canada for parts availability so Amazon/Ebay etc. come in useful. Though certain things like Headlamps may look the same but are not in terms of number of bulbs, markings etc. But there are inferior aftermarket parts as well e.g. cheap Chinese knockoffs that one must be mindful of.

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Re: T&T OFFICIAL new vehicle prices and discussion thread

Postby SLVR1 » August 26th, 2018, 2:06 pm

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drchaos wrote:
SLVR1 wrote:
EvoTarmac wrote:Thanks for the good advice guys. I actually did a test drive already and it's one of the better SUV's I have test drove. Very comfortable, spacious and the engine responded quite remarkable. Actually, it was the basic I drove and it's not very basic if you ask me. I would like to test drive the CX5 but SS servicing issues in the past have me thinking twice. I have never owned a Honda vehicle before, but with your reviews and my own interpretation, I think this might be the one.


Once you change your fluids at the regular intervals (I use only Honda Genuine) you should have no issues. I have family and friends that say how expensive Honda are to repair, the cost to service etc. but having owned one for 10 years from new I can attest that they are solid and reliable and do not cost much to service especially if you do the fluid changes for yourself (after the warranty period). Of course some question the reliability of these new turbo engines vs the NA ones but knowing Honda, they would ensure a solid product not to mentioned since you are buying from the firm, any recalls will be applied so that is peace of mind. As I said, my CR-V will come in around Nov./Dec. but the showroom was full of PDT ones waiting to be collected (about 6) so as Agent007 said, act now. Consider though, the basic ones only have front airbags vs the RVSi with its full complement.


A fellow tuner did point out to me that there is a class action law suit starting up in the states against Honda for the 1.5 Turbo.
Oil dilution seems to be the issue, which can shorten the life of the engine. So far cold climates seem worst affected but there is little information.


Doesn’t seem like it would be a significant issue in our climate. From what I read, the problem is that short trips in cold climates don’t allow the engine to warm up enough to evaporate the uncombusted gas collected in the oil pan. Would likely smell the gas in the cabin if it’s happening


Here is the article:
HONDA EARTH DREAMS ENGINE LAWSUIT FILED FOR CR-VS AND CIVICS
Honda 1.5-liter, 2-liter and 2.4-liter direct injection Earth Dreams engines allegedly defective.
By David A. Wood, CarComplaints.com Posted in News
Honda Earth Dreams Engine Lawsuit Filed For CR-Vs and Civics
August 22, 2018 — A Honda "Earth Dreams" engine lawsuit alleges 2015-2018 Honda CR-Vs and 2016-2018 Honda Civics have 1.5-liter, 2-liter and 2.4-liter direct injection engines that are defective.

Filed by plaintiffs Troy Fath, Vincent Puma and Higinio Bautista, the proposed class-action lawsuit includes all former and current owners and lessees of the named Honda vehicles.

Plaintiff Troy Fath says he purchased a new 2017 Honda CR-V equipped with a 1.5-liter Earth Dreams engine in July 2017, a vehicle he still owns.

In January 2018 and with about 5,200 miles on the odometer, Fath’s wife was driving when the SUV went into limp mode and the warning lights illuminated. She pulled over and the Honda was towed to the dealership where the technician found the engine oil level was too high.

The dealer allegedly had the CR-V for about two weeks to replace the engine oil and filter.

When the vehicle had about 6,800 miles, the plaintiff smelled gasoline coming from the CR-V and took it back to the dealer and once again the oil and filter were replaced.

The oil and filter were replaced again when the vehicle had 7,600 miles after the plaintiff claims the oil level was too high. According to the lawsuit, the technician wrote:

“CHANGED OIL AND FILTER. OIL WAS ABOUT 1QT OVER FULL. HONDA IS IN THE PROCESS OF CREATING A SOLUTION.”

Fath says he then noticed the oil had fuel in it when the CR-V had about 8,900 miles, so he again visited the dealership and technicians replaced the oil and filter again.

The plaintiff says he contacted Honda but the automaker admits a problem exists but doesn't have a fix. Now he is stuck with a vehicle that has allegedly lost value due to the Honda engine.

According to the plaintiffs, Honda has concealed its knowledge the Earth Dreams engines are prone to defects that cause fuel to enter the engine oil, damaging the bearings and engines permanently. Decreased oil viscosity and premature wear allegedly cause the CR-V SUVs and Civic cars to stall and fail while driving.

The plaintiffs claim they wouldn't have purchased the vehicles, or would have paid a lot less for them, if Honda would have admitted the Earth Dreams engines have problems.

The lawsuit alleges the engines aren't properly lubricated once the oil loses its viscosity, causing too much strain on the engines when under higher loads. In addition to damaging the bearings, the rotating assemblies and other engine components allegedly can't handle the pressure without enough lubrication.

According to the Earth Dreams lawsuit, Honda has done nothing to help customers even when the vehicles are still covered by the powertrain warranties and sometimes even blames owners for not driving the vehicles for longer distances.

Further, the automaker hasn't recalled the CR-Vs and Civics to repair the engine problems, and no offers of reimbursement have been made.

The Honda Earth Dreams engine lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Minnesota - Fath, et al., vs. Honda North America, Inc., et al.

The plaintiffs are represented by Gustafson Gluek PLLC, Sauder Schelkopf, and Mazie Slater Katz & Freeman, LLC.

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Re: T&T OFFICIAL new vehicle prices and discussion thread

Postby noobie » August 26th, 2018, 10:12 pm

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/toyota/ ... ok-review/

So apparently the new Toyota RAV4s are just coming with 2.5 litre engines, petrol. The fact that it also comes in hybrid trim doesn't matter since the hybrid tax benefit was revoked for 2.0+ engines.

As the markets continue to change and 2.0+ engines become more efficient, will countries like Trinidad get priced out of the market for the top cars?

So far things worked to our benefit as manufacturers produced lower cc engines and paired them with Turbos to meet efficiency targets. If this trend changes, will an SUV or a Pickup truck be the equivalent of an S Class Benz in our market?

How much would a 2.5 Litre RAV4 be if a 1.5litre CRV starts at $310,000??

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Postby scotty_buttons » August 26th, 2018, 10:34 pm

noobie wrote:https://www.motortrend.com/cars/toyota/rav4/2019/2019-toyota-rav4-first-look-review/

So apparently the new Toyota RAV4s are just coming with 2.5 litre engines, petrol. The fact that it also comes in hybrid trim doesn't matter since the hybrid tax benefit was revoked for 2.0+ engines.

As the markets continue to change and 2.0+ engines become more efficient, will countries like Trinidad get priced out of the market for the top cars?

So far things worked to our benefit as manufacturers produced lower cc engines and paired them with Turbos to meet efficiency targets. If this trend changes, will an SUV or a Pickup truck be the equivalent of an S Class Benz in our market?

How much would a 2.5 Litre RAV4 be if a 1.5litre CRV starts at $310,000??


There will be a new 2.0 engine in other markets that will be coming with the new Rav4. Namely in the UK and India.
I’m sure we’ll get the same 2.0, if not tuned differently.
2.5 hybrid would be reserved for the fully loaded.

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Re: T&T OFFICIAL new vehicle prices and discussion thread

Postby rebound » August 27th, 2018, 6:57 am

Correct, the current Rav4 in 2.5 approached 500k.

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Postby PariaMan » August 27th, 2018, 7:03 am

Ever notice in foreign the car prices hardly goes up year on year while in Trinidad the opposite

Consumers just rush and pay and the dealers laugh all the way to the bank

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Postby Dizzy28 » August 27th, 2018, 11:26 am

PariaMan wrote:Ever notice in foreign the car prices hardly goes up year on year while in Trinidad the opposite

Consumers just rush and pay and the dealers laugh all the way to the bank


When you refer to foreign are you referring to countries like the US, Canada etc where the market size is tens and hundreds of millions and manufacturing takes place there or comparable import driven, small nations with just about a million people like us?

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Postby agent007 » September 2nd, 2018, 10:10 pm

2018 refreshed Nissan Pathfinder 3.5 V6 AWD is $750k. It's cheaper than a Fortuner, Prado and Land Cruiser for starters and it has a rewarding petrol V6 vs a diesel. Something to think about.

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Postby Preludeman1 » September 15th, 2018, 3:58 pm

hi all,

Thinking of buying a new hilux and was considering the 2.4 turbo diesel option versus the 2.8L turbo diesel counterpart.
I saw on the brochure that the clearance heights are different between the 2.4 and 2.8 models. But on looking at them in the showroom they do not seem to have varying heights.
Anyone familiar with the new 2018 Hilux can give an explanation or add clarity??

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Postby supernedd » September 15th, 2018, 7:45 pm

Preludeman1 wrote:hi all,

Thinking of buying a new hilux and was considering the 2.4 turbo diesel option versus the 2.8L turbo diesel counterpart.
I saw on the brochure that the clearance heights are different between the 2.4 and 2.8 models. But on looking at them in the showroom they do not seem to have varying heights.
Anyone familiar with the new 2018 Hilux can give an explanation or add clarity??
what are d price difference

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Postby Preludeman1 » September 15th, 2018, 10:42 pm

About 17k difference

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Postby Gladiator » September 15th, 2018, 11:13 pm

Preludeman1 wrote:hi all,

Thinking of buying a new hilux and was considering the 2.4 turbo diesel option versus the 2.8L turbo diesel counterpart.
I saw on the brochure that the clearance heights are different between the 2.4 and 2.8 models. But on looking at them in the showroom they do not seem to have varying heights.
Anyone familiar with the new 2018 Hilux can give an explanation or add clarity??


Can be due to the flare kit or some insignificant add on accessory on the higher priced model.

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Re: T&T OFFICIAL new vehicle prices and discussion thread

Postby Preludeman1 » September 17th, 2018, 10:41 pm

supernedd wrote:
Preludeman1 wrote:hi all,

Thinking of buying a new hilux and was considering the 2.4 turbo diesel option versus the 2.8L turbo diesel counterpart.
I saw on the brochure that the clearance heights are different between the 2.4 and 2.8 models. But on looking at them in the showroom they do not seem to have varying heights.
Anyone familiar with the new 2018 Hilux can give an explanation or add clarity??
what are d price difference



Went in today and found that the clearance is the same on all 4x4 Hilux models (both 2.4 and 2.8 ) so it looks like there is an error on the brochure regarding the 2.4 fabric trim.
Throwing it out there for anyone who may be looking in the future.

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Re: T&T OFFICIAL new vehicle prices and discussion thread

Postby supernedd » September 17th, 2018, 10:45 pm

Preludeman1 wrote:
supernedd wrote:
Preludeman1 wrote:hi all,

Thinking of buying a new hilux and was considering the 2.4 turbo diesel option versus the 2.8L turbo diesel counterpart.
I saw on the brochure that the clearance heights are different between the 2.4 and 2.8 models. But on looking at them in the showroom they do not seem to have varying heights.
Anyone familiar with the new 2018 Hilux can give an explanation or add clarity??
what are d price difference



Went in today and found that the clearance is the same on all 4x4 Hilux models (both 2.4 and 2.8 ) so it looks like there is an error on the brochure regarding the 2.4 fabric trim.
Throwing it out there for anyone who may be looking in the future.
so a 4by2 n 4by4 is d same height .. what are d prices

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Postby carluva » September 25th, 2018, 2:52 pm

I meant to post this sometime ago but only just got around to doing so.

A few weeks ago, I went to see the Toyota Rush at TTTL's showroom, Barataria. I actually organized a demo of the unit cause I told myself that once it was impressive enough, I'd consider selling one of our rides (a Fortuner) use the cash to buy the Rush and have some cash left over. Man was I disappointed and glad I didn't sell the Fortuner as yet! Can't even imagine why its being called the baby Fortuner.

I must admit that I am really disappointed that Toyota pitches this as a seven seater and I really cannot comprehend why people are purchasing this. The third row is cramped. i'm 5'-10" and can fit pretty acceptably in the third row of the Fortuner. The Rush is cramped, to the point where my body hurt after a few minutes.

The second row is small and three adults cannot comfortable in the second row. Two adults will be comfortable.

Dimension wise: its narrower than the RaV4 and probably just as long. So it looks out of proportion.

The vehicle, while sold by Toyota is made by Daihatsu, which is owned by TMC. So the looks of the Rush are reminiscent of previous models like the Terios which if you know the latter will agree that there is that similar out of proportion resemblance.

I have three kids and all three are in varying degrees of car seats. For some time, we had one car seat in the second row and used the third row for two other car seats. Now for the comfort of all, all three car seats are in the second row and the third row is folded up but available to use should the need arise (which it has). If you are a family which has three small kids who are not in car seats/booster seats, then maybe the Rush vehicle can work. It should be noted that three car seats will never comfortable nor safely fit in this vehicle. The second row can only take two car seats but then a third passenger will have to climb through the trunk to enter the third row, For a family with two kids, maybe this can work with the third row up, but then one can argue that it basically becomes a five seater when there are better and similarly priced 5 seaters on the market. Sure some people would say that "its a Toyota" with the normal resale value blah blahs. But in reality, this is a Toyota badged Daihatsu.

I didn't waste time going for a test drive as the Rush did not appeal to me as maybe other vehicles in Toyota's (and perhaps other dealers') lineup. Even the salesman, a good colleague of mines, told me don't waste time to sell the Fortuner for the Rush as this wold be a dumb mistake. I now see why. Point to note, that its a 1.5L engine and while I was there, someone demo'd it before me and then another person right after me. On both occasions, the respective salesman told the customers that they will take the vehicle up the Lady Young to demo the capabilities of the engine and other features (presumably hill descent or hill start). Personally, I think it's to show that this 1.5L engine can make steep hills but even so, I think it'll struggle making a Maracas or Las Cuevas run with five passengers and beach gear/coolers. Won't even trust this on a Blanchicheusse Road! I cant even imagine why people are running down this vehicle and the shipments are being sold out even before arriving in the country. The few I saw on the road had the third row up, so I'm wondering if this was purchased as a seven seater or as a five seater.

So while I'm an advocate for more new seven seaters on the market, I think that this Rush is not worth it and its back to the drawing board to see who can bring good seven seater alternatives other than the conventional SUVs or minibuses.

That's my 2 cents worth.

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Postby supernedd » September 25th, 2018, 6:46 pm

carluva wrote:I meant to post this sometime ago but only just got around to doing so.

A few weeks ago, I went to see the Toyota Rush at TTTL's showroom, Barataria. I actually organized a demo of the unit cause I told myself that once it was impressive enough, I'd consider selling one of our rides (a Fortuner) use the cash to buy the Rush and have some cash left over. Man was I disappointed and glad I didn't sell the Fortuner as yet! Can't even imagine why its being called the baby Fortuner.

I must admit that I am really disappointed that Toyota pitches this as a seven seater and I really cannot comprehend why people are purchasing this. The third row is cramped. i'm 5'-10" and can fit pretty acceptably in the third row of the Fortuner. The Rush is cramped, to the point where my body hurt after a few minutes.

The second row is small and three adults cannot comfortable in the second row. Two adults will be comfortable.

Dimension wise: its narrower than the RaV4 and probably just as long. So it looks out of proportion.

The vehicle, while sold by Toyota is made by Daihatsu, which is owned by TMC. So the looks of the Rush are reminiscent of previous models like the Terios which if you know the latter will agree that there is that similar out of proportion resemblance.

I have three kids and all three are in varying degrees of car seats. For some time, we had one car seat in the second row and used the third row for two other car seats. Now for the comfort of all, all three car seats are in the second row and the third row is folded up but available to use should the need arise (which it has). If you are a family which has three small kids who are not in car seats/booster seats, then maybe the Rush vehicle can work. It should be noted that three car seats will never comfortable nor safely fit in this vehicle. The second row can only take two car seats but then a third passenger will have to climb through the trunk to enter the third row, For a family with two kids, maybe this can work with the third row up, but then one can argue that it basically becomes a five seater when there are better and similarly priced 5 seaters on the market. Sure some people would say that "its a Toyota" with the normal resale value blah blahs. But in reality, this is a Toyota badged Daihatsu.

I didn't waste time going for a test drive as the Rush did not appeal to me as maybe other vehicles in Toyota's (and perhaps other dealers') lineup. Even the salesman, a good colleague of mines, told me don't waste time to sell the Fortuner for the Rush as this wold be a dumb mistake. I now see why. Point to note, that its a 1.5L engine and while I was there, someone demo'd it before me and then another person right after me. On both occasions, the respective salesman told the customers that they will take the vehicle up the Lady Young to demo the capabilities of the engine and other features (presumably hill descent or hill start). Personally, I think it's to show that this 1.5L engine can make steep hills but even so, I think it'll struggle making a Maracas or Las Cuevas run with five passengers and beach gear/coolers. Won't even trust this on a Blanchicheusse Road! I cant even imagine why people are running down this vehicle and the shipments are being sold out even before arriving in the country. The few I saw on the road had the third row up, so I'm wondering if this was purchased as a seven seater or as a five seater.

So while I'm an advocate for more new seven seaters on the market, I think that this Rush is not worth it and its back to the drawing board to see who can bring good seven seater alternatives other than the conventional SUVs or minibuses.

That's my 2 cents worth.
best review ever . if only other people who buy or test vehicles was this honest. people don't say nothing n leave u to buy crap. jus because they got caught

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Postby kamakazi » September 26th, 2018, 12:46 am

It is a Terios replacement.

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Postby Dizzy28 » September 27th, 2018, 1:41 pm

Saw a Rush in traffic last week and I must say it looked weird..................and not in a good way. It was just not attractive in any form or fashion to me.

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Postby *$kїđž!™ » September 27th, 2018, 7:17 pm

kamakazi wrote:It is a Terios replacement.
Yeah dont see the big deal with the rush..looks unattractive and narrow...toyota could hwve done better

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Postby agent007 » September 29th, 2018, 8:58 am

Good news guys, we are coming closer to the arrival of the 2019 RAV4, Forester and Eclipse Cross in Q1 2019. If you're crossover shopping and could wait then I suggest you should :)

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Postby *$kїđž!™ » September 29th, 2018, 1:26 pm

agent007 wrote:Good news guys, we are coming closer to the arrival of the 2019 RAV4, Forester and Eclipse Cross in Q1 2019. If you're crossover shopping and could wait then I suggest you should :)
Hmm yeah cant wait for these overpriced stearlership prices also

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*$kїđž![emoji769] wrote:
agent007 wrote:Good news guys, we are coming closer to the arrival of the 2019 RAV4, Forester and Eclipse Cross in Q1 2019. If you're crossover shopping and could wait then I suggest you should :)
Hmm yeah cant wait for these overpriced stearlership prices also
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Postby purple_heart77 » September 29th, 2018, 2:26 pm

agent007 wrote:Good news guys, we are coming closer to the arrival of the 2019 RAV4, Forester and Eclipse Cross in Q1 2019. If you're crossover shopping and could wait then I suggest you should :)
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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » September 29th, 2018, 7:17 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Saw a Rush in traffic last week and I must say it looked weird..................and not in a good way. It was just not attractive in any form or fashion to me.


It was meant for those who cant buy the rav4...and looking for another yota suv

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Postby car » September 29th, 2018, 10:24 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Saw a Rush in traffic last week and I must say it looked weird..................and not in a good way. It was just not attractive in any form or fashion to me.


It was meant for those who cant buy the rav4...and looking for another yota suv


Or men that upgrading from an Almera or a wet man.
In fact any man upgrading from a car (non euro) will think it bess.

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Re: T&T OFFICIAL new vehicle prices and discussion thread

Postby eliteauto » September 30th, 2018, 1:57 am

Rush is ugly AF anyone "upgrading" would be better off using the same cash on a roro

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