camber plates - class bump?

[MG Man]

ok guys, here's the thing:
I need to replace both shock mounts on the MINI due to deterioration
A pair will cost around US$300
However, I can get aftermarket camber plates for a similar price:


would these lead to a class bump, or just points?

Please advise

[mazdamaniac]

the way you ran at dex4, if yuh breath too fast, fart too hard or close de car door too hard it go be ah class bump

[MG Man]

burr??????
113whp doh lie

but nah, not for that car.............for the MINI

[MG Man]

am I in the wrong forum again????????????????

[mazdamaniac]

we have we eye on yuh, which ever car yuh runin is ah class bump, then we go add pionts for mods

[MG Man]

lol
since when allyuh have ah eye onm y jokey ol car?

[Rudman]

I really don't see what all the fuss is about.......is still ah Mini with ah retarded CVT......

[rjaggs]

burr??????
113whp doh lie

but nah, not for that car.............for the MINI

as if we didnt have enuff pressure already with having suzukis in ESP...

[VK-Sportsman]

From Solodex_2009_rules.pdf,

D. ALLOWABLE MODIFICATIONS: Applicable Classes – ESP, SS and EP
8. SUSPENSION
g) The following allowances apply to strut-type suspensions. Adjustable camber
plates may be installed at the top of the strut and the original upper mounting
holes may be slotted. The drilling of holes in order to perform the installation is
permitted. The center clearance hole may not be modified. Any type of bearing or
bushing may be used in the adjustable camber plate attachment to the strut. The
installation may incorporate an alternate upper spring perch/seat and/or mounting
block (bearing mount). Any ride height change resulting from installation of
camber plates is allowed. Caster changes resulting from the use of camber plates
are permitted.
Adjustable Pillow ball mounts – 1 Penalty point

Now checking this year's rules from CARS_SoloDex_2010_RUles_Rev1-2.pdf

SECTION D: Allowable Class Modifications
The items listed in this section are “free” modifications. If an item is not listed in this
section, it attracts a penalty. If such an item is not listed under Section C-V at present, it will be assessed and awarded a penalty value which would be applied to the car or cars
found with the new item.

............there's no mention about "Adustable Pillow ball mounts" OR "Adjustable Camber plates" in SECTION D: Allowable Class Modifications.

Therefore one would assume that it attracts a penalty, amount of points for that penalty we don't know, because its not listed in "Section C-V", i.e;Table 2 & Table 3.

[MG Man]

I really don't see what all the fuss is about.......is still ah Mini with ah retarded CVT......

quoted for future flag waving

[MG Man]

thanks Zuki but I was hoping for an 'official' response

[Reyos]

Hey Kevin,
I looked over the 2010 rules last night and according to the rules you cannot be penalized for the camber plates. However, if you upgrade the shock or spring, then that would result in modification points.
Hope this helps.

[MG Man]

many thanks reyos
I have no intention of upgrading the MINI because as Rudi said, the retarded CVT will never make it competitive.....but I HAVE to replace the shock mounts, and the price difference between stock (which guaranteed to fail in a couple years) anf the adjustable is US$150, so it makes sesne in the long term to upgrade

[MG Man]

burr??????
113whp doh lie

but nah, not for that car.............for the MINI

as if we didnt have enuff pressure already with having suzukis in ESP...

didn't devi run your car and knock six seconds off david's best time?
You guys can do so much more with that car if you stop overdriving it so much.......the GTi swift is one of the ightest and nimblest cars in its class
And in terms of power, I routinely get trounced by cars with less horsepwer......and I've beaten cars withmore orsepower when i used to run the MG

Just look at curtis in his B11 Sunny............car? or DRIVER?
Curtis is putting down ESP times with a car that I am sure is heavier than the GTi and has less WHP...........think about it

[rjaggs]

didn't devi run your car and knock six seconds off david's best time?
You guys can do so much more with that car if you stop overdriving it so much.......the GTi swift is one of the ightest and nimblest cars in its class

agreed, but i drive d mivec...

[MG Man]

didn't devi run your car and knock six seconds off david's best time?
You guys can do so much more with that car if you stop overdriving it so much.......the GTi swift is one of the ightest and nimblest cars in its class

agreed, but i drive d mivec...

lol well uyou have even less excuse than David
what tyres you guys run?
I run Toto Proxes Vimode, which have a TW rating of 360.....they don't come much harder than that

[rjaggs]

didn't devi run your car and knock six seconds off david's best time?
You guys can do so much more with that car if you stop overdriving it so much.......the GTi swift is one of the ightest and nimblest cars in its class

agreed, but i drive d mivec...

lol well uyou have even less excuse than David
what tyres you guys run?
I run Toto Proxes Vimode, which have a TW rating of 360.....they don't come much harder than that

we bought a set of new sumitomo 160tw tyres but i'm almost sure they perform worse than a 280tw tyre...

d mivec rated at 123 whp and weighs 2500+ lbs...d swift should outperform...

[MG Man]

Why would the Sumis be worse?

[pete]

Sumitomos work fine on my car.

[MG Man]

They worked well on the HSR too............but the Vimodes work significantly better, even witht he higher TW.........might be the AA traction rating *shrugs*

[pete]

Maybe better than the HTR 200, not the Z

[MG Man]

yup
the Z does not come in a size to fit my car

[MG Man]

well finally got the camber plates
now I just need some spring compressors and a balljoint separator and I good to go



anybody know where I can get the balljoint separator to buy?

[wagonrunner]

Guess he couldn't tell you where to get one...............

[MG Man]

din call him
phone kept dropping signal

[mazdamaniac]

I'm sure D'Spike have one, but we does normally call it ah sledge hammer. It does wok real good and is found in any hardware store

[MG Man]

nah
that is mango tree mechanic ting
tends to damage the joint..................rather not go that route

[MadCrix]

i find the tool actually damages th eboot rubber on the joint kev. i was looking to buy one but i saw one got damage in the removal process. let me know if yours get damage. if not tell me the brand of tool you used an di will buy same

[MG Man]

from what I have seen, a pry bar (tuning fork style) does more damage
but that is an issue with track rod ends.............what I need it for is to pop the hub carrier off of the lower control arm, to release the MacPherson Strut

[pete]

Grooved Ball joint FTW

Took mine out with a normal spanner.