have you answered my question?chris1388 wrote:I asked karl and maria a question a while back and niether replied. Explain the difference in the championship shootout years past where the winner's time was significantly better than say the lower end of the results. I for one remember ryan pinheiro finding time that noone else cud find with vishnus b14. Please explain.
Also ryan peyrau took the stock swift sport the year lifestyle sponsored one for the shootout. Amir won that year. Peyrau took the car after ALL the competitors used it and blew the winning time out of the water.
Do you find the reason "that's how it was done in the past" to be a reason why it can't be questioned?wagonrunner wrote:I have always had an issue with this because I don't understand how two vehicles with the same P/W ratio and a difference in length of 2 feet plus could be expected to handle the same in a dexterity race.
It does indeed favor some.
wagonrunner wrote:Asking SCCA about p/w in 2007
wagonrunner wrote:chris1388 wrote:All that being said....Pete came up with a nice idea but I don't think the rules should be changed for something like that. I think those questioning the rules should take up the offer I outlined before trying to crunch numbers and come up with a "length correction factor".
so to clarify, you agree with the following?two vehicles with the same P/W ratio and a difference in length of 2 feet plus could be expected to handle the same in a dexterity race.
pete wrote:Maybe we could narrow the bands for the classes and see which cars fall where and see if the times would be more competitive. Like HS 25-30, ES 21-25, ESP 17-21, SS 13-17, EP 11-13 and EPR quicker than that?
wagonrunner wrote:pete the point system to me is another fallacy.
does any mod increase all cars performance so uniformly, that the penalty could be?
pete wrote:The swift sport suspension is also very good compared to the other cars in ES and Anthony has good tyres on. So you have a combination of three things which will make the car faster that other cars in the class. It's not just the length difference. If the cars that had 25+ pwr's boost their power or drop some weight to get down to 20, put on sport suspension and install good tyres their times should then be competitive.
adriano7910 wrote:well to be honest a short car does infact have a advantage so to place a small penalty towards a small wheel based car or a small reward in favor of a long car would do no harm.[/b]
Razkal wrote:the classing system is balls, the point-penalty for modification system is balls, the pwr ranges within classes are balls....so whats the point of putting on events this year then??
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