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kes_vtec wrote:and this is my point...
if the same car auto and manual with "stock" are not in the same class then something is off...
is the manual faster? yes, is it an advantage, no...
kes_vtec wrote:Why do i say that?
In drags, if you are running 14.7(auto) and the next man run 14.1(GB), the two of you are in the group, given that the motors are stock with no power adders. right...
so what is the slower car to do, cry, and say he can never beat the same car with a GB, and ask to change the rules of class? OR add NOS, and not tell anyone? OR go and look for all the ways to make HP while tryin' to stay stock???
you may want to fight and say, if the next guy do all the things i do, i still can't beat him, but you know that if he did he would be running 13s, he will now change classes, or stay in the same class and "hold" the car back...
kes_vtec wrote:i hope you guys see the big picture...
The drag rules as it is, allows for both car and driver to be assessed as if they were one...as in the case above, the car is given two classes, it is stock and given a time in which to run. The driver is also assessed in his ability to keep within the time so you have the car being physically assessed as a stock vehicle with no power add-ons and car and driver being assessed together set by the time the car runs. So even if your car is capable of running a faster time, driver skill is now tested in its ability to run a lower time. Both car and driver are given the ability to grow.
kes_vtec wrote:This is something I say should also be adopted in Solodex. Too much emphasis is placed on car specs and not enough on driver skill.
A good example would be Chris and the Ignis vs. me in a very well working B-18 C5. I'm pretty sure that Chris will do slightly better times than me or even in the case that I do a better time, it may be a second or two faster. The fact is Chris has better skill, even if the vehicles are unmatched, our times would be very close, therefore in a sport such as Solodex where we like to say it is 90% driver and 10% car, the rules should reflect that very same thing.
What YOU think?
kaycee151 wrote:^^^ i totally agree... dat's y i've said from the beginnin of this year championship if i win my class confidently i wud move up to a higher class...
any mods i do 2 my car wud improve car performance and i may have to do some re-adjustin skill wise but it's all good...
it also improves the spirit of competition...man on point---mr.fixables...
MadCrix wrote:so how ar eyou caterign for ppl who for instance back off timing and dyno dere car and den turn it back up
or ppl with vtec controller sadn fuel manaegment sytsems who de tune their car and jack it back up to race>?
MadCrix wrote:mini dat is becasue as i keep tellign EVERYBODY
and mike.... i eh want no body drivign my car
well unless is devi
saltydog wrote: I however think that some people need to move up, some because they are good drivers and can make it higher uo the food chain
Silvermike wrote:well i just found out i lost 40 pts for not making a meeting and cuz of that i can not come 1st, nor 2nd. so classification of cars is the least of my issues.
1/4 mile time is useless to classify a car for solodex course. its using apples to judge oranges. so is power to weight. its just to general. it will separate an evo form a civic, but not a gti from an sir.
the figure 8 sounds good... get a standard driver.... a good driver, kirk for instance. to drive all cars on the course and post a time. then group times and base classes on that. that tests both engine, suspension and chasis independent of driver.
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