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Audio installation on Honda Vezel Hybrid (?)

Postby VexXx Dogg » January 9th, 2018, 11:53 am

This is a fact finding thread for now.

Getting a Vezel, want to do a good audio build.

1. Replace HU (or install a processor on factory HU)
2. Replace 4 Door speakers with good 6.5 components. Morel Maximo's any good?
3. Install a powerful 5 channel (like the DD 1000.5) or two amps (want 1000RMS on sub amp at 1 ohm )
4. Install 3 shallow or small enc 10" subs. I like the ID10, each sub will get 0.5 cuft. Amp will run at 1.33 ohm load, but that's ok.


Anybody did a similar upgrade? Any installers you'd recommend familiar with this platform? Will the stock electrical system cope? Not sure about hybrid and current loads.

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Re: Audio installation on Honda Vezel Hybrid (?)

Postby SR » January 10th, 2018, 9:12 pm

Why do you need 1000rms on a sub at at 1 ohm??

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Re: Audio installation on Honda Vezel Hybrid (?)

Postby VexXx Dogg » January 11th, 2018, 9:34 am

Because I want 3 4 ohm 10's sealed. each 10 is 350w rms.
The load will be ~700-800 rms at 1.33 ohms which is a decent match for 3 x 350RMS subs.

Math correct?

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Re: Audio installation on Honda Vezel Hybrid (?)

Postby kavaninho » January 11th, 2018, 5:37 pm

Looks like a good project.. I would recommend coax for the rears instead so the install would be simpler so the tweeter is down low.

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Re: Audio installation on Honda Vezel Hybrid (?)

Postby VexXx Dogg » January 12th, 2018, 8:55 am

kavaninho wrote:Looks like a good project.. I would recommend coax for the rears instead so the install would be simpler so the tweeter is down low.
Thanks. My last three systems have had coaxials in the rear doors but the fronts always sounded noticeably better. Bear in mind it's not about "gallery". I just like clean music with some oomph just for me. My current system in my truck is decent but lacks the kind of bass I like.

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These days I generally prefer how subs respond in a sealed enclosure vs ported. Dunno why. In my gallery days all my systems were ported. I think sealed enclosures are more predictable across the frequency range. I'm not an expert, but it could be a placebo

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Re: Audio installation on Honda Vezel Hybrid (?)

Postby kavaninho » January 12th, 2018, 5:41 pm

The reason for putting the coax to the back is such that the soundstage is not pulled to the rear by placing tweeters near to your right ear. (High end vehicles has this and most sounds terrible) Generally people with rearfill in SQ type systems run them at very low amplitude or even low pass them so they are not so easy to localize.

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Re: Audio installation on Honda Vezel Hybrid (?)

Postby VexXx Dogg » January 13th, 2018, 2:53 pm

kavaninho wrote:The reason for putting the coax to the back is such that the soundstage is not pulled to the rear by placing tweeters near to your right ear. (High end vehicles has this and most sounds terrible) Generally people with rearfill in SQ type systems run them at very low amplitude or even low pass them so they are not so easy to localize.


Great point. Didnt think of that at all, lol - but it makes legit sense.

Coax for it then :)

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Re: Audio installation on Honda Vezel Hybrid (?)

Postby nick639v2 » January 13th, 2018, 5:17 pm

Subbd for good sq

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Re: Audio installation on Honda Vezel Hybrid (?)

Postby Rainman » January 15th, 2018, 11:15 am

Sub'd. Does the hybrid vehicle have a conventional belt driven alternator? Interested on one of those hybrid Xtrails, but I need my boodong boodong as well.

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Re: Audio installation on Honda Vezel Hybrid (?)

Postby kavaninho » January 15th, 2018, 5:16 pm

^ Not sure about your xtrail but I'm pretty sure the electric motor is doing the regenerating.

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Re: Audio installation on Honda Vezel Hybrid (?)

Postby X_Factor » January 15th, 2018, 10:45 pm

VexXx Dogg wrote:
kavaninho wrote:Looks like a good project.. I would recommend coax for the rears instead so the install would be simpler so the tweeter is down low.
Thanks. My last three systems have had coaxials in the rear doors but the fronts always sounded noticeably better. Bear in mind it's not about "gallery". I just like clean music with some oomph just for me. My current system in my truck is decent but lacks the kind of bass I like.

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Jl xd700/5
Rf p3 shallow in a sealed enclosure

These days I generally prefer how subs respond in a sealed enclosure vs ported. Dunno why. In my gallery days all my systems were ported. I think sealed enclosures are more predictable across the frequency range. I'm not an expert, but it could be a placebo


Whilst sealed does have better dynamic response, accuracy etc...if you dont have enough flexibility on what processor you plan to use to boost under 35hz region, sealed will lack the low end punch over a low tuned ported (under 30hz)
you could consider using a pair of 10's ported around 28hz to compensate

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Re: Audio installation on Honda Vezel Hybrid (?)

Postby Ted_v2 » February 12th, 2018, 9:09 am

those ID10 are lovely sealed, ran 4 on 600rms off one of those directed 5 channels. Real smooth.

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