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New sq build...info /advice needed

Postby Jerry84 » April 28th, 2019, 9:09 pm

So I was into the loud music in your car kinda thing but after hearing a relative's vehicle in Miami I was blown away by the levels being achieved in this area. Crisp clean notes, makes one appreciate the music a lot more. I've decided to somewhat do my system this way. My relative gave me two pairs of components (morel is the brand I think). I have two amps (US Amps- Merlin md23 two channel) pack down as well as a JL Audio W6 in factory sealed box. Plan on bridging one amp for the sub and the next for one pair of components...need advice on head unit....any suggestion welcomed.
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Re: New sq build...info /advice needed

Postby Ted_v2 » April 28th, 2019, 9:22 pm

Sundown Audio SAE-100.4

i should of bought one long time ago, its huge but well worth it. properly well built, gobs of power.

for a single amp system this works, a nice 5 channel like the pdx rell decent too. could run active. mids tweets and sub. pair that with a 80prs and u gt

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Re: New sq build...info /advice needed

Postby Jerry84 » April 28th, 2019, 9:45 pm

My intention is to use what I already have, a two amp system...thinking I just need the correct processing...and a proper head unit

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Re: New sq build...info /advice needed

Postby Jerry84 » April 28th, 2019, 9:47 pm

Thanks for the advice....kinda out.of the music scene for about a decade....what's a 80prs
Ted_v2 wrote:Sundown Audio SAE-100.4

i should of bought one long time ago, its huge but well worth it. properly well built, gobs of power.

for a single amp system this works, a nice 5 channel like the pdx rell decent too. could run active. mids tweets and sub. pair that with a 80prs and u gt

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Re: New sq build...info /advice needed

Postby kavaninho » April 28th, 2019, 10:27 pm

So you are doing one pair of comps passively crossed upfront with a single sub?
90% of the 2019 pioneer radios can process this well.

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Re: New sq build...info /advice needed

Postby Ted_v2 » April 28th, 2019, 11:42 pm

well a 80prs is a deck suited for sq.

https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA ... EH-S6100BS
i have one of these i bought from fuzz, was like 1200 or so.
could work in network mode, pioneer app for tuning and seting up Time alignment ect, rell decent. cant work with any of my android devices but works on my friend s8. so i guess higher end android phones.

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Re: New sq build...info /advice needed

Postby Jerry84 » April 29th, 2019, 6:24 pm

Thanks for all the advice fellas...this 80 prs sounding like the real thing..might have to get one... Where is fuzz located and what's his contact number??
Thanks in advance guys
Ted_v2 wrote:well a 80prs is a deck suited for sq.

https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA ... EH-S6100BS
i have one of these i bought from fuzz, was like 1200 or so.
could work in network mode, pioneer app for tuning and seting up Time alignment ect, rell decent. cant work with any of my android devices but works on my friend s8. so i guess higher end android phones.

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Re: New sq build...info /advice needed

Postby Jerry84 » April 29th, 2019, 6:52 pm

Have no idea what "one pair of comps passively crossed upfront with a single sub" means..can you explain??
But I intend to use one pair of comps and the sub together with the two amps
kavaninho wrote:So you are doing one pair of comps passively crossed upfront with a single sub?
90% of the 2019 pioneer radios can process this well.

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Re: New sq build...info /advice needed

Postby kavaninho » April 29th, 2019, 7:24 pm

I see that you have two 2 channel amplifiers for the entire system, so I take it you are using the passive crossovers included with the component set. This configuration is fine but will surely under-utilize the 80prs capability.

My advice here would be to use a single 5 channel amp and go fully active.

Which line/model morel comps you have by the way?

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Re: New sq build...info /advice needed

Postby kavaninho » April 29th, 2019, 7:25 pm

Also, what type of car is this going into?

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Re: New sq build...info /advice needed

Postby nervewrecker » May 2nd, 2019, 10:00 pm

Or get a next small 2 ch for tweeters or a 4 channel for mid and tweeters

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Re: New sq build...info /advice needed

Postby SR » May 3rd, 2019, 6:35 am

Use what you have and get a pioneer 80prs there is one for sale in the classifieds for $1500 i think

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Re: New sq build...info /advice needed

Postby nervewrecker » May 3rd, 2019, 11:45 pm

Ben spanna, $1600.00 I think

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Re: New sq build...info /advice needed

Postby Jerry84 » May 4th, 2019, 10:40 pm

Sorry for the late reply..it's a Nissan wingroad y11...I think the line of morel is tempo or something so
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Re: New sq build...info /advice needed

Postby kavaninho » May 5th, 2019, 8:55 am

Jerry84 wrote:Sorry for the late reply..it's a Nissan wingroad y11...I think the line of morel is tempo or something so
kavaninho wrote:Also, what type of car is this going into?


Tempos are descent. Don't forget to post build pics here :)

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Re: New sq build...info /advice needed

Postby Jerry84 » May 18th, 2019, 8:14 am

So I was researching the 80 pts and realized it was a bit complicated wrt tuning...can anyone with the know how shed some advice please...much thanks

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Re: New sq build...info /advice needed

Postby kavaninho » May 18th, 2019, 9:53 am

Jerry84 wrote:So I was researching the 80 pts and realized it was a bit complicated wrt tuning...can anyone with the know how shed some advice please...much thanks


Actually it is not complicated as you think. It is very straight forward when you get into the Audio menu.

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Re: New sq build...info /advice needed

Postby kavaninho » May 18th, 2019, 9:55 am

Is this a DIY install or looking at an install shop?

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Re: New sq build...info /advice needed

Postby Ted_v2 » May 26th, 2019, 11:44 pm

get an experienced guy to tune it, install yourself if u like.

i have a basic idea about tuning, but IDK i let people tune my stuff and i adjust to my likeness.

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Re: New sq build...info /advice needed

Postby DJ Q » May 28th, 2019, 11:21 am

While I agree the prs is awesome... I don't think it's necessary for this build.
Honestly any regular pioneer headunit will work... UNLESS you're looking into time alignment.
And even there, with the newer pioneer decks that work with their app, the most basic single DIN decks are very, very capable.

With that equipment, as you're now getting into appreciating sound, I'd grab any regular 13 band eq pioneer deck, apply relevant HPF, and start there.

I received the best advice possible from TheWiseOne when he suggested to start and upgrade so you can appreciate the differences in sound. And starting with Morel Tempo is a lot better than my pioneer 6x9s lol.

Just my opinion.

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