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141 Toyota Fielder Wagon [ late 2006-2012 ] Q & A Thread ...
Posted: April 21st, 2011, 11:02 am
by - Rovin's car audio -
*edited thread title ... this topic is now mainly for 141 fielder\corolla
search of this forum reveals very little info when it comes to d fielder so i decided to make a "official thread" so ask anything u want here & hopefully we can share some info with each other
1st question :
2007 new model fielder 1500cc engine , what type of gas to use : super or premium ? ...
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: April 24th, 2011, 11:07 pm
by black start
if its a 1.5 then is probabli a 3zz-fe...which designed to work on 91 ron fuel...so super would work just fine....
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: April 26th, 2011, 8:20 pm
by pugboy
the newer model 1.5 fielders I have seen under the hood have 1nz-fe engines
which work fine with super
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: April 26th, 2011, 8:23 pm
by pugboy
I wanna know why they are so expensive now,
I paid $80k for 1.5 fielder in 2006
now they calling $128k for 1.5 and $135 for 1.8
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: April 26th, 2011, 8:47 pm
by - Rovin's car audio -
thank goodness 2 ppl posted - was beginning to think like not much fielder owners r on tuner
thanks for d info guys ....
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: April 26th, 2011, 9:01 pm
by black start
pugboy wrote:the newer model 1.5 fielders I have seen under the hood have 1nz-fe engines
which work fine with super
i dont recommend that u put super in that 1nz-fe.....neither does the manufacturer....this gona cause the ecu to retard the timing and cause ah set ah stupid problems....and also as set ah injector issues as well...so even though it may look as though it working fine now and u think that its working fine......well lets just say candle cost more than funeral....
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: April 26th, 2011, 9:16 pm
by pugboy
i thought all gas now is unleaded and will not cause specific injector issues unlike running leaded vs unleaded ? The only issue supposed to be the octane rating requirements per the engine.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: April 26th, 2011, 10:01 pm
by black start
trdboy wrote:ronniesingh12 wrote:now with all that explanation tell me what happens to our catalytic converter in the NZE because its a three stage converter some time down the road your engine exhaust going to clog. please confirm
well when u running on a lower than recommended ron gasoline ur ecu retards ur timing to prevent detonation as a result it dumps more gas, so u will be running a lil rich now........the rest i will copy and paste from a previous thread
Rich air-fuel ratios cause less than 100% of the fuel to be burned, increasing hydrocarbon emissions (unburned gasoline) and reducing heat. Excessive fuel may wash away some lubricating oil, causing scoring damage to the combustion cylinders. It may cause fuel to burn in the exhaust manifold, raising exhaust temperatures and damaging catalytic converters
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: April 26th, 2011, 10:03 pm
by black start
^all this was covered in previous threads...onli if someone would take the time and compile all of it...lol...
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: April 27th, 2011, 12:54 am
by - Rovin's car audio -
where is d engine model number located ? ...
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: April 27th, 2011, 6:10 am
by pugboy
I get 26-28mpg so and I used to get the same before when I used premium. I stopped using premium after the price went up.
So something does not add up here.
nze is a low compression economy engine......
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: April 27th, 2011, 4:11 pm
by zidane_1408
What is the number for the fan belt?
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: April 27th, 2011, 4:21 pm
by black start
pugboy wrote:I get 26-28mpg so and I used to get the same before when I used premium. I stopped using premium after the price went up.
So something does not add up here.
nze is a low compression economy engine......
cr on the 3zz-fe is 10:1 and for the 1nz-fe is 10.5:1.....10.5:1 is not is not really low....and the compression of the 1nz-fe is stil more than the 3zz-fe.....
(...Rovin...) wrote:where is d engine model number located ? ...
should be on stamp on firewall....corolla sedans have it there atleast....if not check the cert copy (not sure of this one though)....
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: April 27th, 2011, 7:32 pm
by ramishrrr
The 1.5L engine that the Corolla from 2000 got, as well as the Fielder, Allex, Runx, Probox, Platz, Vitz, Vios, Scion Xb and a host of other Toyota cars was the 1NZ-FE. The current Corolla & Fielder still carries it, though it may be with a drive-by-wire throttle. (No accelerator cable)
The engine type & number can be found on the cylinder head under the plastic intake manifold between nos. 3 & 4 intake. A flashlight may be necessary. Check the photo.
For 4 years we have been running our 1NZ-FE on super, very hard at times. No problems yet, even at 170KMH.
All this and other 1NZ-FE info were discussed before.
Regards,
RR.
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: April 27th, 2011, 7:42 pm
by - Rovin's car audio -
^can always count on u for great info - thanks ! ...
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: April 27th, 2011, 9:33 pm
by pugboy
well it would appear we have conflicting opinions on gas type usage for nze engines
btw the cars I saw today had the engine model type on a little plate/sticker on the bonnet right underside, above where the battery would be
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: April 27th, 2011, 9:35 pm
by pugboy
does anyone know if the fielder rear shoe hubs can be easily switched out to disc hubs from a corolla ?
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: April 27th, 2011, 9:41 pm
by black start
^yup dats works...once u get the same generation it bolts up like original....there is a place in the bamboo that does sell the nze rear end for 2500....its in siwala street on the left hand side almost to the end....they also have the different generations as well.....ie different model ones...
but your best bet with these conversions is still to take out your own and compare before buying....
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: April 27th, 2011, 9:44 pm
by pugboy
so its just bolt on, hook up brake lines and handbrake cable ?
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: April 27th, 2011, 10:50 pm
by ramishrrr
Don't forget ABS sensors.
It is possible that the handbrake cable/s may be different on the wheel end. Make sure you get them when buying a rear set-up.
The 2ZZGE equipped Fielder, Runx and Allex RS180 came with rear disc brakes.
Regards,
RR.
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: April 29th, 2011, 1:21 pm
by - Rovin's car audio -
how or who does program d mitsubishi navigation\dvd\cd deck that that come with d new shape roro fielders ?
i hear if u take out d batt all d deck settings r lost & u have to get some special cd to unlock it so any info wud be appreciated ....
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: April 29th, 2011, 2:25 pm
by Imran007
Imran007 wrote:the only issue with the new fielders and axio is the auto tranny needs to change tranmission fluid every 30,000km with a special toyota cvt oil, not currently available in T&T, if anyone has them they should advertise, cause you cant get them even at TTTL.
the tranny in the auto 1.5 & 1.8 is electronic cvt, so there's no dipstick and there's only a nipple to pump out and in the oil, so not all mechanics have the adaptor to drain it, which is the easier part, getting the new oil is worst...
so if anyone has the oil and has the actual adaptor to work on the tranny, this is a good time to talk....
anyone...???
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: May 1st, 2011, 9:06 pm
by kaviman
Imran007 wrote:Imran007 wrote:the only issue with the new fielders and axio is the auto tranny needs to change tranmission fluid every 30,000km with a special toyota cvt oil, not currently available in T&T, if anyone has them they should advertise, cause you cant get them even at TTTL.
the tranny in the auto 1.5 & 1.8 is electronic cvt, so there's no dipstick and there's only a nipple to pump out and in the oil, so not all mechanics have the adaptor to drain it, which is the easier part, getting the new oil is worst...
so if anyone has the oil and has the actual adaptor to work on the tranny, this is a good time to talk....
anyone...???
check toyolink in the forums.... he has the transmission fluid recommended for the new fielders and also is linked with a mechanic who can change it for u
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: May 2nd, 2011, 5:26 am
by pugboy
given that soon the majority of cars are coming with cvt i would guess that the price of changing txn cvt oil should be common
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: May 13th, 2011, 11:46 am
by - Rovin's car audio -
(...Rovin...) wrote:how or who does program d mitsubishi navigation\dvd\cd deck that that come with d new shape roro fielders ?
i hear if u take out d batt all d deck settings r lost & u have to get some special cd to unlock it so any info wud be appreciated ....
nobody ? .....
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: May 17th, 2011, 1:59 pm
by azlan
Fielder loud nosie when starting.
I have a 2005 Fielder and I always noticed a loud noise when starting but the mechanic said that is the timining chain is grating on metal when staring but once the oil flows the nosie is gone if you switch off and then restart.
I noticed a lady in work with one as well and her own makes the same noise. Same 2005 model, the one with the electronic throttle.... Anybody else experiencing this?
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: May 18th, 2011, 9:05 am
by ramishrrr
The cam chain tensioner works with hydraulic pressure of the lubrication system. It means that only when the oil pump turns (by the engine turning) then the pressure will build to operate the tensioner to keep the chain taut, preventing noise.
The oil comes to the tensioner via an orifice.
Noise problems could be one of these issues or others:
1. Stretched, worn chain.
2. Tensioner and/or chain guide(ladder) defective.
3. Worn oil pump.
4. Wrong oil viscosity.
A high mileage engine will obviously develop wear. Tolerances will increase, and in the case of the oil system, will result in a drop in oil pressure, especially at low engine speeds. This drop in pressure will result in the tensioner taking longer to react, hence the obvious timing chain noise.
If you use a heavy mineral oil, it will be more viscous when cold, and will take longer to flow, longer to go through the orifice, to activate the tensioner. For a temporary relief, use a lighter oil, synthetic if you can afford it the next oil change.
However, nothing beats renewing worn, fatigued engine parts.
Regards,
RR.
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: May 18th, 2011, 3:13 pm
by pugboy
what's recommended viscosity ?
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: May 19th, 2011, 2:13 pm
by CHEEZE
Q.I have a local fielde wagon 1.8 1zzfe ,engnine parts hard to find or what?
Re: The Fielder wagon Q & A Thread ....
Posted: May 20th, 2011, 9:16 am
by azlan
I will try to use a synthetic blend. Castrol 10w 30 will do?
If this stops or reduces my noise should I still change the tenshioner?
Is there anyway tio check to see if the tenshioner was damaged?
Another thing, When I bought the car about one year ago, I went to cahnge oil and noticed that the engine had sludge in it. I dont know it it was severe but when we drained the oil not much sludge came out?
I was advised not to do an engine flush in the event that any lines becomes clogged and the engine could get damaged seriously. I just tried to change my oil pretty often. The car works really well, in ter,s of performance, and I service it regularly.....
I just need to get rid of the noise so that my resale value would not decrease !!!
Can anyone recommed a mech to check it for me and really get the noise resolved?