Help me choose my next set of tyres

[De Dragon]

I have a set of Dunlop Direzza DZ101 245/40R17....No suitable for dex at all. Not even good for sprited driving.

Why do you say so?

[De Dragon]

As would anyone recommend Yokohama Advans,but as we all know,kindda impossible to get these locally.There is a place in Cipero Street in San Fernado,can't rem the name exactly, that I got somewhat of a replacement.I'm presently using Nexen's ON MY E8 with no problems.......not exactly what I wanted but its worth a try.

I have heard nothing good about Nexens on any type of turbocharged vehicle.

[Mitsubishi Maniac]

^^^^ I hear you bossman,but that was all i was getting at the point in time.Car does not run too much so not feeling the brunt of it too much.But yeah,not the first person who told me about those Nexens.Hopefully I can get some Yoko's if i'm lucky next time.

[crazybalhead]

I have a set of Dunlop Direzza DZ101 245/40R17....No suitable for dex at all. Not even good for sprited driving.

Why do you say so?

I say so because they wear unevenly, tramline, and cause the car to severely understeer with their lack of grip.

[De Dragon]

I have a set of Dunlop Direzza DZ101 245/40R17....No suitable for dex at all. Not even good for sprited driving.

Why do you say so?

I say so because they wear unevenly, tramline, and cause the car to severely understeer with their lack of grip.

I guess allyuh spirited different to my spirited! Or maybe they're new so I am not experiencing what you are speaking about.

[crazybalhead]

They get worse when they get older.

[Alpha_2nr]

As would anyone recommend Yokohama Advans,but as we all know,kindda impossible to get these locally.There is a place in Cipero Street in San Fernado,can't rem the name exactly, that I got somewhat of a replacement.I'm presently using Nexen's ON MY E8 with no problems.......not exactly what I wanted but its worth a try.

I have heard nothing good about Nexens on any type of turbocharged vehicle.

So they could be well suited to a 370Z just fine then?

[SurGTR]

I had those Dunlops Direzza previously, no grip wet or dry, was spinning tyres like crazy, in my Civic Hatch Non VTEC Automatic, 205/40/17, My last 2 set of Tyres were Dunlops (the DZ101s and I believe the set before that were the SP9000s) , say what you want but im on NEXENS N3000 of same specs now and I get much better traction

Oh and the Dunlops Cuts really bad on the inside area of the rim.......juss eyeballing the tyre can look real good condition, take the wheel off , dont be surprised if you see the tyre down to wire on the inside..

[De Dragon]

As would anyone recommend Yokohama Advans,but as we all know,kindda impossible to get these locally.There is a place in Cipero Street in San Fernado,can't rem the name exactly, that I got somewhat of a replacement.I'm presently using Nexen's ON MY E8 with no problems.......not exactly what I wanted but its worth a try.

I have heard nothing good about Nexens on any type of turbocharged vehicle.

So they could be well suited to a 370Z just fine then?

Now how de fack I go know that?

[Alpha_2nr]

^^Missing the point I see (hint: comment about turbocharged vehicles)

Let Unkle CBH help yuh out.

[crazybalhead]

I had those Dunlops Direzza previously, no grip wet or dry, was spinning tyres like crazy, in my Civic Hatch Non VTEC Automatic, 205/40/17, My last 2 set of Tyres were Dunlops (the DZ101s and I believe the set before that were the SP9000s) , say what you want but im on NEXENS N3000 of same specs now and I get much better traction

Oh and the Dunlops Cuts really bad on the inside area of the rim.......juss eyeballing the tyre can look real good condition, take the wheel off , dont be surprised if you see the tyre down to wire on the inside..

That's because you were dropped low and needed to adjust camber and toe properly, not the tyres fault really.

And we not only talking about launch traction here, I'm talking about sidewall stability, and a solid enough shoulder to corner properly.

What's the specs on the Nexens?

[Alpha_2nr]

^^D00d...even those specs are suspect, and not often good enough to compare with.

IIRC, the N3000's have a AA traction rating, and I think it's a 340 tread compound...with the SportMaxx A on the Swift Sports having only a single A traction rating (240 tread compound). Yet, the SportMaxx A (and regular SportMaxx) are superior tyres IMHO in every way. It comes down to test method IMHO.

[crazybalhead]

BTW guys, that traction rating is done by braking on wet pavement. It really has nothing to do with handling and grip. People feel that when you hear traction AA, that that is a bess tyre for racing, spirited driving, but this is just not the case. Even tyre shops love to quote this rating, but they themselves don't understand it.

http://www.coopertires.com.au/index.php ... -explained

[Alpha_2nr]

^^Correct is right! Same applies to treadwear ratings as well.

Think about this, the OE tyres on the NZE Corolla were a 220 tread Bridgestone. Do you HONESTLY think that would compare to say, a Potenza S-03 Pole Position in terms of traction (also 220 tread)? It didn't

The Tiida's OE tyre was a Toyo NP01...a 220 tread as well IIRC. Again, could that compare in COMPOUND grip and handling to a Toyo T1R (280 tread)? Nope....but ent the NP01 has a softer tread?????

So while the TW rating may refer to tread "wear" in terms of lifespan, I'm guessing it doesn't accurately address the compound itself.....and that has alot to do with the tyre's grip......notwithstanding sidewall stiffness/differences!!!

Here's where tyre class (EPS, UHPS, HPS, Touring etc) come into play IMHO.

[crazybalhead]

Also, to add to that, the tyre ratings are usually specific to a manufacturer. So the wear rating is not necessarily a rating of stickiness, but a relationship to the other tyres made by that manufacturer.

[De Dragon]

^^Missing the point I see (hint: comment about turbocharged vehicles)

Let Unkle CBH help yuh out.

Irony at its very best! I got your point soldier, I also fail to see where I said it was good for a high HP N/A car

[Alpha_2nr]

^^My point exactly.

[Chemical]

^^I also thought the traction had to do also with the molecular compound of the rubber used in conjunction with tire tread design & wet breaking force like what the michelin asymmetrical design employs ?

[De Dragon]

^^My point exactly.

I haven't read (nor cared to) about Nexens and N/A cars. I have read about them in relation to turbocharged cars.