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Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby Nebulous_14 » March 16th, 2012, 9:53 pm

Need some advice on transmission.
At 42000km I flushed my CY2 auto transmission because I thought it was better than drain and refill.
Only time I did something to the car outside of my service at diamond motors.
I know they drain and refill. So we don't ever have to change the internal filter.
They are saying that at 80000km I should think about getting it changed.
What do you guys do when you change tranny fluid.
I am 6000km ( 2 months) away from oil change so I have time to consider.

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby dutyspeed » March 18th, 2012, 7:10 pm

drain and refill...lol

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby venum » March 18th, 2012, 9:07 pm

religious change at 20,000km so drain and refill

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby Nebulous_14 » March 19th, 2012, 9:46 pm

When I flushed it the first time it took 10 quarts of Dia SP III so I guess drain and refill next two months and then I could follow up next year with a drain and refill again.
It will use still use 10 bottles combined for two drain & refill.
Diamond motors told me 5 quarts.
Good to hear this method is still used.

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby Sanctifier » March 24th, 2012, 6:44 am

^ ^ ^ The Galant VR-G's tranny was starting to get "grabby" a couple years ago... CAUTION: Highly technical term in use. :lol:
I couldn't afford a pulldown & repair; so I tried a tranny flush.
"Best move" right there. No more issues... and it's more than three years ago.
Sanctifier wrote:btw when I went to Laughlin & De Gannes on Dundonald St. I got royally screwed.... way overcharged for tranny fluid... I was advised later that the extra fluid was pocketed by the service mechanic.

Your best bet is to call the Wynns dealer on Eastern Main Road, near the Curepe Police Station for an appointment.
Honest and efficient service. That's where I serviced the Subaru wagon years later... btw with great results again!

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby Rudman » March 24th, 2012, 10:55 am

The last number I had for the Wynns dealer (Nick) is 785-9469.

As Uncle Sancti say, he will sort you out with fair pricing.

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby Rory Phoulorie » March 24th, 2012, 12:16 pm

Rudman wrote:The last number I had for the Wynns dealer (Nick) is 785-9469.

As Uncle Sancti say, he will sort you out with fair pricing.


792-2462 is the last number I reached Nick at last year July.

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby ZeroOne » March 25th, 2012, 4:47 pm

venum wrote:religious change at 20,000km so drain and refill


= immortal tranny 8-)

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby anthonyanthony » April 9th, 2012, 11:03 am

The service manual recommends changing at 40K.
The manual do not drain and refill.... they drain , refill, drain refill , etc . ie flushing 2 or 3 times ,more until the fulid comes out clean.
Dont know if this is done at DM.

As for the filter, I do not see any mention of changing a filter in the manual or if one exists.
I know the CK4 had and external tranny filter.

Nebulous did you do the flushing yourself?
According to the manual it can be done , all you need is some simple tools and something to measure the amount of fulid coming out so you will not run the tranny dry while engine is on.

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby venum » April 15th, 2012, 8:15 pm

no tranny filter on some mitsu trannies

that tranny doing almost 200,000km

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby Nebulous_14 » April 15th, 2012, 9:56 pm

It used almost 10 quarts with a transmission flush machine. When I asked Diamond motors 2yrs ago they said they only drain and refill not sure if they use the method Anthony stated.
I have used the machine on 2 previous cars one with over 200k km on it and another with over 120k km.
For me it usually take 2 years for me to cover 40 000km and so that is why I used the machine.I am surprise to see your post from the manual that states the other method.

Does the manual ever recommend the use of a machine on these tranny?

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby anthonyanthony » April 17th, 2012, 9:55 am

'I am surprise to see your post from the manual that states the other method.

Does the manual ever recommend the use of a machine on these tranny?'


Actually the manual said to use the machine but also it mentioned if a machine is not available to use the method I mentioned. Since most users do not have a machine home the method I mentioned can be used ( as a weekend project).

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby Nebulous_14 » April 17th, 2012, 10:01 pm

So they do have a recommendation for a machine transmission fluid change.
Thanks for the verification.
I have seen online that Mitsubishi recommends a machine but also read that Honda America does Not

Then I might just stick with the machine flush since I have done it on this car before with good results.

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby anthonyanthony » April 18th, 2012, 1:47 pm

Nebulous, where are you doing this flush ....at DM ?
This may be pricey.
Once the service manager at DM told me I have to do a TB cleanout and this would cost around $ 1200.00!
Online I saw all you need to do the TB clean out , very simple and only money spent was for cleaner.

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby Biggs3ne » April 18th, 2012, 4:20 pm

anthonyanthony wrote:Nebulous, where are you doing this flush at DM ?
This may be pricey.
Once the service manager at DM told me I have to do a TB cleanout and this would cost around $ 1200.00!
Online I saw all you need to do the TB clean out , very simple and only money spent was for cleaner.


Anthony is $1,200.00 to clean a throttle body you say???? Hmnnnn....

Anyways, I usually do a drain and refill. Works pretty well and tranny has not given any problems to date. I usually check the tranny level every now and then and smell to make sure it does smell burnt in between changes. The flush thing I have never done.

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby ZeroOne » April 18th, 2012, 5:03 pm

anthonyanthony wrote:The service manual recommends changing at 40K.
The manual do not drain and refill.... they drain , refill, drain refill , etc . ie flushing 2 or 3 times ,more until the fulid comes out clean.
Dont know if this is done at DM.

As for the filter, I do not see any mention of changing a filter in the manual or if one exists.
I know the CK4 had and external tranny filter.

Nebulous did you do the flushing yourself?
According to the manual it can be done , all you need is some simple tools and something to measure the amount of fulid coming out so you will not run the tranny dry while engine is on.


What if the fluid always comes out clean?

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby Nebulous_14 » April 18th, 2012, 8:05 pm

I carried the car in Duncan village they had a machine that connects through the a transmission line under the front right of the car (not Ron's but they have a machine also I carried the civic there) but don't know the exact address.The guy name is Richie.

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby Nebulous_14 » April 18th, 2012, 8:07 pm

Never did a throttle body on this car. I did service the impreza throttle body by Bird in Waterloo simple and only cost a $100

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby anthonyanthony » April 18th, 2012, 8:45 pm

zero if fulid comes out clean lucky you.
I believe why they (the manual) said to do it more than once so that the old fulid is completely replaced.
Remember once you drain via the hose and drain plug, their is still fulid remaining in the torque converter, so by doing this flush ensures you have new fulid in the tranny... no old contiminated fulid left over which defeats the purpose of a fulid change at 40K.

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby ZeroOne » April 19th, 2012, 6:15 am

Doesn't the machine eliminate that problem?

AFAIK it works like a simultaneous vacuum and pump. Sucking out all the oil fluid and pumping in the new.

When the system is full it stops.
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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby anthonyanthony » April 19th, 2012, 6:49 am

Yes I believe the machine would do this.
The explanation I gave was if it was done without a machine.

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby NR8 » August 3rd, 2012, 12:18 am

Nebulous_14 wrote:I carried the car in Duncan village they had a machine that connects through the a transmission line under the front right of the car (not Ron's but they have a machine also I carried the civic there) but don't know the exact address.The guy name is Richie.

Do you recall the name of the place that did it?

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby FourG63 97GST » August 3rd, 2012, 1:01 am

The flush is the best way to do it, there's no way to get all the oil out if the converter, lines, oil cooler etc. The drain and refill works to an extent, you'll have to repeat the procedure several times and still won't get the same results as a flush.....but It's up to you decide if it's that serious or not for your car

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Re: Transmission flush or drain& refill

Postby Nebulous_14 » August 4th, 2012, 1:42 pm

Guy name is Richi Auto Tech contact @ 758-8860. before Debe. He also sells the fluids at a good price. Similar machine to Ron's and Master Serve.

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