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Help Needed - STI

Postby Zee » October 2nd, 2017, 10:08 am

Good day fellow 2nrs,

I am presently in a position to afford a used STI. I was seriously considering taking the plunge but needed some advice from more experienced persons.

So I am looking at a 2003 model (Peanut eye). It's basically stock except for a metal radiator, a blow off valve and an upgraded exhaust. It also has coil overs. It is for sale here on 2nr as well.

The car has some minor issues to be addressed as told by the owner - the hose for the IC sprayer is not working. It does not have a windscreen washer fluid bottle. A hose is loose which is causing loss of boost (not sure about this one). The Boost gauge is not going into boost - it is remaining in vacuum. The oil light is on due to him using aftermarket gauges to monitor temp and pressure. Brake pads need changing.

I want to use the car as a daily driver as I work about 15 mins away from home. I've been told that the car can be tuned to run on super. Is this possible and would it do any damage?

I am a normal driver and this is my first boosted car. I do not plan to launch or race or drive excessively hard for any prolonged period. So the effect on performance won't bother me if there is power loss.

Outside of that, what can you guys guide me on before I take this step.

I look forward to the feedback, thanks!

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Re: Help Needed - STI

Postby brakefluid » October 3rd, 2017, 5:06 pm

Firstly you always have little fixing to do. High performance cars need attention. From brakes to fuses to just about anything. Does not mean that something is wrong with the car but high performance requires high attention.

If the car not going into boost it could be as simple as fixing the vacuum line which is a 1 minute fix i cant see why he didnt fix it right away (unless there is more tothe problem ). The car could be tuned to run on super as well. If the oil pressure gauge is working then is no worries just the annoying oil light in the panel but it should be fixed.

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Re: Help Needed - STI

Postby Aaron 2NR » October 3rd, 2017, 6:57 pm

I'd get a competent mechanic to check those issues out first...

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Re: Help Needed - STI

Postby branbran » October 3rd, 2017, 7:11 pm

Hey Get someone who knows about Subarus to check it sounds like a headache to me also check to see if the gasket blow there are a few ways to check this so get a mechanic to go with you. Don't rush and buy any car before you check it out inside out. Depends on the price of you getting a good deal and would have extra cash to sort it out then it's cool.

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Re: Help Needed - STI

Postby Zee » October 3rd, 2017, 7:26 pm

Thanks for the feedback guys. No longer going with that vehicle. Open to options right now

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Re: Help Needed - STI

Postby racedriverpro » October 3rd, 2017, 7:42 pm

There are easier ways to get an STI...most cost alot to manage.

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Postby Zee » October 3rd, 2017, 9:04 pm

racedriverpro wrote:There are easier ways to get an STI...most cost alot to manage.

You mean to do a conversion?

I'm actually thinking WRX now.. maybe less stress?

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Re: Help Needed - STI

Postby racedriverpro » October 4th, 2017, 8:17 am

Zee wrote:
racedriverpro wrote:There are easier ways to get an STI...most cost alot to manage.

You mean to do a conversion?

I'm actually thinking WRX now.. maybe less stress?
Lol...nah thats not what I was saying.

Budget and ability to maintain is everything with these cars.

Imo good mechanics are few and far apart wrt to skills etc. Working on Subarus is time consuming most times, which mechanics usually charge a premium price for. More downtime at the mechanic in some cases due to the workload of the few 'specialist' mechanics around.

What are ur reasons for wanting a WRX/STi? I suspect peformance that u would not get wit a Honda.

Oh yeah doh waste time and money with conversion. Can be 'fun' if u doing the work.

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Postby air wick » October 5th, 2017, 9:11 am

Make sure the chassis code is GDB (legit STi)

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Re: Help Needed - STI

Postby Zee » October 5th, 2017, 1:20 pm

racedriverpro wrote:
Zee wrote:
racedriverpro wrote:There are easier ways to get an STI...most cost alot to manage.

You mean to do a conversion?

I'm actually thinking WRX now.. maybe less stress?
Lol...nah thats not what I was saying.

Budget and ability to maintain is everything with these cars.

Imo good mechanics are few and far apart wrt to skills etc. Working on Subarus is time consuming most times, which mechanics usually charge a premium price for. More downtime at the mechanic in some cases due to the workload of the few 'specialist' mechanics around.

What are ur reasons for wanting a WRX/STi? I suspect peformance that u would not get wit a Honda.

Oh yeah doh waste time and money with conversion. Can be 'fun' if u doing the work.


lol, ok..

I should be able to maintain it, once parts are easy to come by

I agree about the mechanic situation - but I have friends who are versed and can assist.

I always wanted a STI, and now I can afford it. I present have a 2016 Civic, and it is about the best car I've owned to date.

I dont want a conversion or even a modded STI, the more original - the better.

thanks for the comments tho

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Re: Help Needed - STI

Postby Zee » October 5th, 2017, 1:21 pm

air wick wrote:Make sure the chassis code is GDB (legit STi)


I got that info yesterday. Saw the plate and firewall and cert copy. Looks legit.

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Re: Help Needed - STI

Postby racedriverpro » October 5th, 2017, 1:39 pm

Zee wrote:
racedriverpro wrote:
Zee wrote:
racedriverpro wrote:There are easier ways to get an STI...most cost alot to manage.

You mean to do a conversion?

I'm actually thinking WRX now.. maybe less stress?
Lol...nah thats not what I was saying.

Budget and ability to maintain is everything with these cars.

Imo good mechanics are few and far apart wrt to skills etc. Working on Subarus is time consuming most times, which mechanics usually charge a premium price for. More downtime at the mechanic in some cases due to the workload of the few 'specialist' mechanics around.

What are ur reasons for wanting a WRX/STi? I suspect peformance that u would not get wit a Honda.

Oh yeah doh waste time and money with conversion. Can be 'fun' if u doing the work.


lol, ok..

I should be able to maintain it, once parts are easy to come by

I agree about the mechanic situation - but I have friends who are versed and can assist.

I always wanted a STI, and now I can afford it. I present have a 2016 Civic, and it is about the best car I've owned to date.

I dont want a conversion or even a modded STI, the more original - the better.

thanks for the comments tho
No scn...there are additional things to check for with regards to engine health etc.

1. Observe engine noises upon cold start and run. Some indicators of bad bearing, wrist pin, rods etc are not always noticeable when engine is warm.

2. Observe exhaust during cold start...look for idicators of buring oil due to turbo or valves....never heara of issues with valves tho.

3. Ohhhhh and always pull a learning view from the ecu to check for evidence of knock/deton through reduced timing and IAM.

4. I wouldn't buy if owner used/uses super.

5. Ask if car was tuned and by whom...

6. Do a full suspension and undercarriage check.

Subaru community isnt that close knit but some really good Subaru guys around and we try to assist in any way that we can...

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Re: Help Needed - STI

Postby 16 cycles » October 11th, 2017, 9:39 am

viewtopic.php?f=34&t=229229&p=3178299&hilit=gdb#p3178299

^ take a read....


oil light on is a major concern....to me at least...

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Re: Help Needed - STI

Postby crazybalhead » October 11th, 2017, 9:59 am

I strongly disagree with "performance cars always have issues" only when people neglect or do nonsense. That oil light on is a worry. No boost, big worry. The sprayer bottle missing means accident and then a shoddy repair in my opinion. I would not buy that car. Just my 2c. Especially not for a daily driver.

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Postby Aaron 2NR » October 15th, 2017, 11:12 am

Exactly

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Re: Help Needed - STI

Postby Ted_v2 » October 25th, 2017, 8:00 am

I think i know what STI you are talking about, for the price its a good deal.

get a good mechanic to take a look at it, or check out the previous mechanic and hear what he has to say about it. You wont believe what you would find out.

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Re: Help Needed - STI

Postby Zee » November 22nd, 2017, 12:23 pm

brakefluid wrote:Firstly you always have little fixing to do. High performance cars need attention. From brakes to fuses to just about anything. Does not mean that something is wrong with the car but high performance requires high attention.

If the car not going into boost it could be as simple as fixing the vacuum line which is a 1 minute fix i cant see why he didnt fix it right away (unless there is more tothe problem ). The car could be tuned to run on super as well. If the oil pressure gauge is working then is no worries just the annoying oil light in the panel but it should be fixed.


I guess I will have to get used to checking under the hood more often.

This issue is now a non issue

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Re: Help Needed - STI

Postby Zee » November 22nd, 2017, 12:23 pm

Aaron 2NR wrote:I'd get a competent mechanic to check those issues out first...


Thanks for the advice.

Apparently those are hard to come by... or costly

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Postby Zee » November 22nd, 2017, 12:24 pm

branbran wrote:Hey Get someone who knows about Subarus to check it sounds like a headache to me also check to see if the gasket blow there are a few ways to check this so get a mechanic to go with you. Don't rush and buy any car before you check it out inside out. Depends on the price of you getting a good deal and would have extra cash to sort it out then it's cool.


Thanks for the advice.

I did end up getting the car I was looking at, checked inside out. Not this particular one in question

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Re: Help Needed - STI

Postby Zee » November 22nd, 2017, 12:34 pm

racedriverpro wrote:
Zee wrote:
racedriverpro wrote:
Zee wrote:
racedriverpro wrote:There are easier ways to get an STI...most cost alot to manage.

You mean to do a conversion?

I'm actually thinking WRX now.. maybe less stress?
Lol...nah thats not what I was saying.

Budget and ability to maintain is everything with these cars.

Imo good mechanics are few and far apart wrt to skills etc. Working on Subarus is time consuming most times, which mechanics usually charge a premium price for. More downtime at the mechanic in some cases due to the workload of the few 'specialist' mechanics around.

What are ur reasons for wanting a WRX/STi? I suspect peformance that u would not get wit a Honda.

Oh yeah doh waste time and money with conversion. Can be 'fun' if u doing the work.


lol, ok..

I should be able to maintain it, once parts are easy to come by

I agree about the mechanic situation - but I have friends who are versed and can assist.

I always wanted a STI, and now I can afford it. I present have a 2016 Civic, and it is about the best car I've owned to date.

I dont want a conversion or even a modded STI, the more original - the better.

thanks for the comments tho
No scn...there are additional things to check for with regards to engine health etc.

1. Observe engine noises upon cold start and run. Some indicators of bad bearing, wrist pin, rods etc are not always noticeable when engine is warm.

2. Observe exhaust during cold start...look for idicators of buring oil due to turbo or valves....never heara of issues with valves tho.

3. Ohhhhh and always pull a learning view from the ecu to check for evidence of knock/deton through reduced timing and IAM.

4. I wouldn't buy if owner used/uses super.

5. Ask if car was tuned and by whom...

6. Do a full suspension and undercarriage check.

Subaru community isnt that close knit but some really good Subaru guys around and we try to assist in any way that we can...


1. It's hard to do that, unless the person is allowing you to come to their home to view the car - which, in these times is not the case. But good point.

2. Burning oil would be smoke from the exhaust?

3. How do you do that?

4. How come?

5. Agreed

6. Agreed

Thanks alot. I appreciate all the help I can get!

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Re: Help Needed - STI

Postby Zee » November 22nd, 2017, 12:35 pm

16 cycles wrote:http://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=229229&p=3178299&hilit=gdb#p3178299

^ take a read....


oil light on is a major concern....to me at least...


Many thanks for the share!

The guys stated that it was only on due to him using the aftermarket gauge and it was not a problem that had it on. But, it is something that requires verification.

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Postby Zee » November 22nd, 2017, 12:37 pm

crazybalhead wrote:I strongly disagree with "performance cars always have issues" only when people neglect or do nonsense. That oil light on is a worry. No boost, big worry. The sprayer bottle missing means accident and then a shoddy repair in my opinion. I would not buy that car. Just my 2c. Especially not for a daily driver.


Thanks for the advice.

I agree with all of your points, those are all major areas of concern with a car like this..

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Postby Zee » November 22nd, 2017, 12:39 pm

Ted_v2 wrote:I think i know what STI you are talking about, for the price its a good deal.

get a good mechanic to take a look at it, or check out the previous mechanic and hear what he has to say about it. You wont believe what you would find out.


Anyone paying attention should know which one.

Glad to hear it's a deal.

I did not pursue it again - got a better deal on something actually.

Don't take this the wrong way - but the comment is a bit cryptic. First it's a good deal, then I won't believe what I will find out.. Colour me confused

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Re: Help Needed - STI

Postby racedriverpro » November 22nd, 2017, 8:06 pm

Zee wrote:
racedriverpro wrote:
Zee wrote:
racedriverpro wrote:
Zee wrote:
racedriverpro wrote:There are easier ways to get an STI...most cost alot to manage.

You mean to do a conversion?

I'm actually thinking WRX now.. maybe less stress?
Lol...nah thats not what I was saying.

Budget and ability to maintain is everything with these cars.

Imo good mechanics are few and far apart wrt to skills etc. Working on Subarus is time consuming most times, which mechanics usually charge a premium price for. More downtime at the mechanic in some cases due to the workload of the few 'specialist' mechanics around.

What are ur reasons for wanting a WRX/STi? I suspect peformance that u would not get wit a Honda.

Oh yeah doh waste time and money with conversion. Can be 'fun' if u doing the work.


lol, ok..

I should be able to maintain it, once parts are easy to come by

I agree about the mechanic situation - but I have friends who are versed and can assist.

I always wanted a STI, and now I can afford it. I present have a 2016 Civic, and it is about the best car I've owned to date.

I dont want a conversion or even a modded STI, the more original - the better.

thanks for the comments tho
No scn...there are additional things to check for with regards to engine health etc.

1. Observe engine noises upon cold start and run. Some indicators of bad bearing, wrist pin, rods etc are not always noticeable when engine is warm.

2. Observe exhaust during cold start...look for idicators of buring oil due to turbo or valves....never heara of issues with valves tho.

3. Ohhhhh and always pull a learning view from the ecu to check for evidence of knock/deton through reduced timing and IAM.

4. I wouldn't buy if owner used/uses super.

5. Ask if car was tuned and by whom...

6. Do a full suspension and undercarriage check.

Subaru community isnt that close knit but some really good Subaru guys around and we try to assist in any way that we can...


1. It's hard to do that, unless the person is allowing you to come to their home to view the car - which, in these times is not the case. But good point.

2. Burning oil would be smoke from the exhaust?

3. How do you do that?

4. How come?

5. Agreed

6. Agreed

Thanks alot. I appreciate all the help I can get!

2. Burning oil would be smoke from the exhaust?
Yes during cold start it might be most noticeable as the oil from the turbo's seal leaks into the downpipe and exhaust piping.

3. How do you do that?
Using a tatrix cable or compliant obd2 cable and a laptop with the romraider stand alone software titled learning view.

4. How come?
Our Super or even premium can induce detonation in jdm tuned turbo Subarus. It's just a question of how often and to what magnitude it occurs...sure a tune would fix that once you are able to get a good one locally. Only one guy I would let tune my car locally. Heard of good results via remote tune.

5. Agreed

6. Agreed

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Re: Help Needed - STI

Postby Zee » November 28th, 2017, 10:13 am

racedriverpro wrote:
Zee wrote:
racedriverpro wrote:
Zee wrote:
racedriverpro wrote:
Zee wrote:
racedriverpro wrote:There are easier ways to get an STI...most cost alot to manage.

You mean to do a conversion?

I'm actually thinking WRX now.. maybe less stress?
Lol...nah thats not what I was saying.

Budget and ability to maintain is everything with these cars.

Imo good mechanics are few and far apart wrt to skills etc. Working on Subarus is time consuming most times, which mechanics usually charge a premium price for. More downtime at the mechanic in some cases due to the workload of the few 'specialist' mechanics around.

What are ur reasons for wanting a WRX/STi? I suspect peformance that u would not get wit a Honda.

Oh yeah doh waste time and money with conversion. Can be 'fun' if u doing the work.


lol, ok..

I should be able to maintain it, once parts are easy to come by

I agree about the mechanic situation - but I have friends who are versed and can assist.

I always wanted a STI, and now I can afford it. I present have a 2016 Civic, and it is about the best car I've owned to date.

I dont want a conversion or even a modded STI, the more original - the better.

thanks for the comments tho
No scn...there are additional things to check for with regards to engine health etc.

1. Observe engine noises upon cold start and run. Some indicators of bad bearing, wrist pin, rods etc are not always noticeable when engine is warm.

2. Observe exhaust during cold start...look for idicators of buring oil due to turbo or valves....never heara of issues with valves tho.

3. Ohhhhh and always pull a learning view from the ecu to check for evidence of knock/deton through reduced timing and IAM.

4. I wouldn't buy if owner used/uses super.

5. Ask if car was tuned and by whom...

6. Do a full suspension and undercarriage check.

Subaru community isnt that close knit but some really good Subaru guys around and we try to assist in any way that we can...


1. It's hard to do that, unless the person is allowing you to come to their home to view the car - which, in these times is not the case. But good point.

2. Burning oil would be smoke from the exhaust?

3. How do you do that?

4. How come?

5. Agreed

6. Agreed

Thanks alot. I appreciate all the help I can get!


2. Burning oil would be smoke from the exhaust?
Yes during cold start it might be most noticeable as the oil from the turbo's seal leaks into the downpipe and exhaust piping.

-> No smoke on start up

3. How do you do that?
Using a tatrix cable or compliant obd2 cable and a laptop with the romraider stand alone software titled learning view.

-> I do not have either. I got a OBD2 and unit to check for codes.

4. How come?
Our Super or even premium can induce detonation in jdm tuned turbo Subarus. It's just a question of how often and to what magnitude it occurs...sure a tune would fix that once you are able to get a good one locally. Only one guy I would let tune my car locally. Heard of good results via remote tune.

-> Well the car is tuned. And it works well IMHO. I wanted it for a daily driver, not for any runs

5. Agreed

6. Agreed

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