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the differences between the impreza WRX and impreza WRX STi

Postby equipped2ripp » November 3rd, 2005, 10:53 pm

i know plenty ppl does wonder what's the difference or differences between these two models..... so here are the differences:


The improvements by Subaru Tecnica International are directed towards the racing enthusiast crowd. The improved features over the standard WRX are:

~ Manual transmission only
~ Modified body aerodynamics (Including a significantly larger rear spoiler)
~ Larger Hood Scoop
~ Intercooler spray
~ 2.5L Engine (Compared to 2.0L)
~ 300HP (vs. 227)
~ Driver Controlled Center Differential
~ Larger disc brakes
~ High Intensity Discharge headlights
~ Interior improvements (steering wheel, racing seats)

The STI is the only new Impreza not being produced with a San Remo Red body paint option.

The STI is the only Subaru with a handbrake that disconnects the center differential for reduced driveline stress, a feature used often in Rally racing.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Impreza_WRX_STi

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Postby mrlantra » November 3rd, 2005, 11:40 pm

Also add removal of Stereo and AC ( they are options not standard ) new forged pistons and rods to.

BTW you can get the STI in 2.0 or 2.5 depending on country, the 2.5 is American spec.

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Postby pyromaniax » November 4th, 2005, 12:39 am

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Postby Silvermike » November 4th, 2005, 1:18 am

the WRX interior is the same... seats, shifter, pedals etc?

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Postby InDeForest » November 4th, 2005, 3:53 am

That is yankee specs eh, but yeah.
An STI comes with AC and stereo, only on the Spec C/Type RA, it those are left out

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Postby God Bless the Black Top* » November 4th, 2005, 4:12 am

what about the suspension? is it the same on both models? i thought the STi came with subaru technica developed suspension and the WRX is just standard?

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Postby R. Mutt » November 4th, 2005, 6:14 am

Yea this list seems a bit vague...where InDeForest? I think they run the same turbo...which would real tief my head why one makes so much more than the other. (I'm referring to the JDM models not the US)
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Postby R. Mutt » November 4th, 2005, 6:15 am

I was just reading up on scoobies and learn't that the early models used Mitsubishi's TDO5H turbos :lol:

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Postby daNdAdDa » November 4th, 2005, 6:58 am

^^u want a price do0o0d :? :? :? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby Aaron 2NR » November 4th, 2005, 7:19 am

i have ah magazine bout all the differences ill try an scan some pages an put dem up...it a really good read...shows the difference wit the engines etc..
comparing the sti rs an wrx

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Postby Mini » November 4th, 2005, 7:39 am

http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/subaru/impreza_wrx/2002_11/

too much for me to post now

but that site lists all the options and standard specifications of the JDM versions i.e. what we would get here RORO

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Postby InDeForest » November 4th, 2005, 11:51 am

WRX up to 1996 = MHI TD05 turbo, not the same evo one it spins the opposite way
All WRX wagons ever = MHI TD04
WRX since 1997 = MHI TD04

STI WRX'ss have used many different IHI ball bearing turbos over the years, VF22, 23, 24, 28, 30, 34, 39, singe scrolls , twin scrolls etc, depending on year, market, and specific model type.

STI suspension is stiffer with higher damping than a WRX sedan, generally sits about an inch lower i think.
A WRX wagon has suspension about a half inch taller all around than a WRX sedan, and stiffer springs in the back, for the wagon weight.
to complicate matters further, there were STI wagons also.. but..i dunno their suspension details.

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Postby InDeForest » November 4th, 2005, 11:59 am

Mini your link above, the three STI models mentioned would be

standard road going STI WRX sedan, full options and comforts, mostly what you see down here
Type RA, lightweight version with thinner glass, no AC and stereo, power windows etc (or at best optional)
Type RA, same thing but with smaller brakes all around, and 16" rims, in anticipation of stripping for rallying, think of an Evo RS equivalent, rare item

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Postby Stixer7 » November 4th, 2005, 12:31 pm

not to mention price

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Postby Alpha_2nr » November 5th, 2005, 8:37 am

2.5L Engine (Compared to 2.0L)
~ 300HP (vs. 227)


Thats just for the USDM cars only. The JDM WRX and WRX STi both carry 2.0L engines. However, the STi version makes around 280 bhp.

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Postby God Bless the Black Top* » November 5th, 2005, 11:33 am

is the spec C the type RA as well? or is there just a Spec C Type RA as well? subaru thanks for confusing my sheit up.

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Postby Val » November 27th, 2006, 11:53 am

Both WRX and STi come with Brembos?

What's the price range for both like?

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Postby casper » November 27th, 2006, 5:55 pm

hmmmm....i didnt really know d difference between the both yuh know...except dat one was faster dan d other...thanks for the info ripp...seems like u really want dat wrx

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Postby equipped2ripp » November 27th, 2006, 7:42 pm

casper wrote:...thanks for the info ripp...seems like u really want dat wrx


nah i good... thanks

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Postby bleedingfreak » November 27th, 2006, 8:02 pm

What about gear ratios? Wouldn't the WRX and RA have different grs?

And no Ididn't read the link :!:

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Postby InDeForest » November 27th, 2006, 11:36 pm

There are alot of differences, to be honest, but the format and feature level is the same, the STI only has upgraded components over a WRX, the only thing a STI has that a WRX does not have at all is intercooler waterspray, oh and DCCD center diff control.
A modern STI version will generally have

ball bearing vs sleeve bearing turbo
higher boost
6 speed box with DCCD center diff
front LSD (all awd subies have rear LSD)
larger rear diff
more agressive cams
hotter ECU tuning
larger intercooler
larger injectors
aluminum vs steel control arms
lower stiffer springs
stiffer shocks
racier fitted seats
intercooler waterspray
brembo brakes with larger rotors

thats about it

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Postby Maserati » November 28th, 2006, 12:37 am

Both WRX and STi come with Brembos?

in the USDM the wrx comes with some large subaru brakes painted red..not sure about the JDM

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Postby Alpha_2nr » November 28th, 2006, 12:07 pm

^^The current USDM WRX ('05/'06) comes with the Subaru 4pot/2pot Rally brakes. These are not normally found in JDM cars...they tend to use the regualr sliding caliper brakes. However, the Subaru 4 pot / 2 pot brakes were first used on the GC8 STi (prior to brembos), and were available as an upgrade to the UK/SDM/JDM WRX. They came in either a red finish, or bluish/black, with the word "Subaru" painted on them.

aluminum vs steel control arms


Acutally I beg to differ. The WRX (from '02 onwards) came with Aluminium control arms (I've checked this myself).

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Postby InDeForest » November 28th, 2006, 3:04 pm

Actually yeah youre right, even foresters have them now, but its been a difference from the first STI models until recently.
But youre wrong about the brakes.
The JDM WRX have been getting 4/2pot setups since 01, yes there are a few rolling around with the 2/1 sliding setup but those are freaks or have been modified, prior to that they had a 4/1 pot setups since 98, STI's had the 4/2.
US models had sliding calipers till 05, when they got red 4/2 setups.
I could write the whole evolution of every market brake setup but, its confusing, and no one is going to remember anything i write, since i have been repeating myself on every topic for years.

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Postby Maserati » November 28th, 2006, 6:58 pm

since i have been repeating myself on every topic for years.

lol you do..had this topic in the car park forum a while back

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Postby Zh@ne » November 28th, 2006, 8:36 pm

Maserati wrote:
Both WRX and STi come with Brembos?

in the USDM the wrx comes with some large subaru brakes painted red..not sure about the JDM


doesn't the JDM brembos come in a goldish colour???

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Postby InDeForest » November 28th, 2006, 8:48 pm

the Brembos are gold, the subaru calipers are black, and recently, red. Those calipers are similar to the nissan 300zx ones, must be done by the same manufacturer (same pad too)

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Postby turbonator » November 28th, 2006, 9:14 pm

Is nissan and subaru connected in any way?

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Postby InDeForest » November 28th, 2006, 9:47 pm

Not that I know of, but of course they often have parts made by common japanese factories and suppliers, so sometimes youll see some parts crossing over or having a similarity, for example, subaru and nissan probably hired the same company to supply opposing piston calipers for them, so one has a Nissan cast into the body, one has Subaru and they look a bit different, but they may have the same internals and use the same brake pad. Another example, Mitsubishi heavy industries makes the turbochargers subaru uses, some engine belts too, many sensors are made by bosch. Nissan, mitsu, subaru all buy brakes from Brembo (italian company) and have OEM seats from recaro (italian company, often the seats do not bear the recaro logo anywhere).
The bottom line is that any car manufacturer does NOT make all the parts for the cars, and they end up sharing many sources of those outsourced parts.

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Postby cacasplat3 » November 29th, 2006, 10:35 am

not sure but, dosent all 2006 model STI's come 2.5l now? USDM and JDM :?:

usually the way i recognize a new (2002 or so) WRX from a flair up TS is looking at the brakes. calipers in the back that arent brembo (whether 2 pot or single) means WRX, drums: TS
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i've read that the STI seats are recaro's, but who makes the WRX seats?

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