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Re: MAZTUNE mom's 2001 BJ Familia RS build

Posted: January 29th, 2010, 10:47 am
by MAZTUNE
Computerman wrote:
MAZTUNE wrote:OThis story has nice DYI bits
Do Yourself In??! :shock:


haha i mean DIY LOL :oops: :oops: :oops:

Posted: January 29th, 2010, 11:04 am
by MAZTUNE
ok so we were running these nice black 17" wheels but they were HEAVY and were putting a strain on the tranny, so sold the 17" wheels we imported a set of 15" x 7" Gun metal MB Wheels from Discount Tire Direct on the net with correct offsets for the Protege/323/Familia. Currently running on some 205/50 R15 Dunlop tires.

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Posted: January 29th, 2010, 12:47 pm
by nareshseep
^^ I love 15's

Posted: January 29th, 2010, 5:11 pm
by Wildcard26
Not much for the 15" scene Still have my Enkei Mazda rims down stairs that I was going to sell but no takers so I will keep it for emergency.

Posted: January 29th, 2010, 6:08 pm
by FullStop
i like 16's, good compromise i think...

Posted: January 29th, 2010, 7:37 pm
by MAZTUNE
we opped for 15" because we were looking for quick response, plus my mom ran into potholes killing those 40series 17" tires, give the lady something that she could beat around yes.

Posted: January 29th, 2010, 7:49 pm
by MAZTUNE
ok so on with the story in 2007, we started to use the car for oilfield work, since we could not afford a Mazda 4x4 yet. SO we gone and damaged all the lady shocks and had to replace them. So a friend(BK) was selling a set of slightly used Tokico HP shock absorbers for $1500.00 took them and run LOL :D

don't have pics of these, will put it up later.

Posted: January 29th, 2010, 7:53 pm
by nareshseep
^^ bess price

Posted: January 29th, 2010, 7:56 pm
by wing
Story goin good....btw what size exhaust.....

Posted: January 29th, 2010, 7:58 pm
by wing
Noticed the decal on your lower back door.....is it the "RS-SVT"done by BK....looks like the SPORT20 logo...

Posted: January 29th, 2010, 9:58 pm
by MAZTUNE
yea everybody in the mazda world knows each other and does pull good, plus I find the logo bad so I ask Brian for one, I think it gives the RS some identity.

hmm it's 2" exhaust, don't want to go too crazy on the exhaust being an NA and a 1500cc. If an exhaust is overdone on these small engines, it could be less responsive as mentioned earlier.

Posted: January 29th, 2010, 10:11 pm
by MAZTUNE
Now we used back the RS springs for now until we could afford something better ie Tiens, H&R performance springs.

So everything was going nice and dandy with the RS when disaster struck, the TIMEBOMB plastic radiator blew out and where ....on the BEETHAM!!! LOL tried to drive to a safe distance topping up with bottled water on the way. So time to upgrade the rad. We ordered in a Corksport original fit Aluminum Radiator for the 00-03 Protege. ($3000.00TT) Note, that rad and A/C fans go back original. Can't go wrong with this rad, no more cooling problems, or that lamo plastic timebomb rad.

Oh one more thing, GROUND the rad to the metal of the car. This will prevent any coolant buildup in the rad (the white stuff) because the rad is on rubber mountings.

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Now the Corksport rad only comes for a manual tranny application so we installed an external transmission cooler located infront of the rad. I will try to get some pics of this. We got this locally, and is found in almost all good parts shops. Now please note, that the tranny cooler CANNOT be to big, as the oil pump in the F-Type ZL tranny is not so strong.

Posted: January 29th, 2010, 10:23 pm
by FullStop
thas a real thick rad, did the operational temps drop or is this regulated by the thermostat to maintain a set particular temp?

Posted: January 29th, 2010, 10:34 pm
by MAZTUNE
ghostbusters wrote:thas a real thick rad, did the operational temps drop or is this regulated by the thermostat to maintain a set particular temp?


ahh good question, yes the thermostat does regulate the engine to operating temp which I believe is a little below half in the BJ's. BUT the fan now trips on for about 2 secs then cuts off. I always believe if an engine that is too cold is just as bad, esp fuel injected where the cold start solenoid would dump fuel if it's always too cold. So I do not believe in removing a thermostat but actually getting a slightly lower one for our hot climate. For reliability(no tank to blow out) and keeping water pressure down, its an excellent upgrade. :D

Posted: January 31st, 2010, 12:09 am
by wing
The end :(

Posted: January 31st, 2010, 8:17 pm
by MAZTUNE
nah much more lol, as a result of the rad blowing out the RARE activematic tranny got damaged as a result of water from the rad entering the tranny lines when the rad went. Now we are GEARBOX men eh, first time we dealing with transmission, and we hate them too!!!

Of course, tranny men in Trinidad laugh at us and said get a new activematic, leaving us hanging.

So we were for a search for a tranny. We got a ZL-VE 98'-99'
(none cat eye) 8bit engine and tranny with no active-matic. Now this is where it gets really interesting. ALL the ZL/ZM trannys are the same including the active-matic, they are all a 4-speed auto BUT the activematic model uses the toggle shifter and ECU to trigger the 6 solenoids in the tranny to shift gears instead of the tranny shifting on its own.

So being a non active-matic, we went inside the tranny, changed the shifter piece to the active-matic one, thats PRND and manual from the PRND12. hmm i should have taken pics of this. one day i will buss down the old tranny and take some pics to show you all. So we made the non active-matic tranny into one, put it up and the ECU controlled the solenoid shifting the 4 gears ALTHOUGH they were meant not to be manually shifted. Tranny wokking!! lol :D Oh we use Redline D4 tranny fluid works for all Mazda transmissions.

Posted: January 31st, 2010, 10:34 pm
by nareshseep
any performance loss from this conversion?

Posted: January 31st, 2010, 11:16 pm
by MAZTUNE
nareshseep wrote:any performance loss from this conversion?


nope it's basically the same transmission when it was completed. Mazda always brokes so they did not make a different design. Also the final drive of these two transmissions were the same, both being ZL-VE trannys.

Posted: January 31st, 2010, 11:19 pm
by acesinghit
So we were for a search for a tranny. We got a ZL-VE 98'-99'
(none cat eye) 8bit engine and tranny with no active-matic. Now this is where it gets really interesting. ALL the ZL/ZM trannys are the same including the active-matic, they are all a 4-speed auto BUT the activematic model uses the toggle shifter and ECU to trigger the 6 solenoids in the tranny to shift gears instead of the tranny shifting on its own.

So being a non active-matic, we went inside the tranny, changed the shifter piece to the active-matic one, thats PRND and manual from the PRND12. hmm i should have taken pics of this. one day i will buss down the old tranny and take some pics to show you all. So we made the non active-matic tranny into one, put it up and the ECU controlled the solenoid shifting the 4 gears ALTHOUGH they were meant not to be manually shifted.


:shock:

Posted: February 1st, 2010, 5:54 pm
by Wildcard26
Interesting..indeed.

Posted: February 1st, 2010, 8:04 pm
by MAZTUNE
so tranny completed, mommy mobile running nice....starting to hear bushing noise in the front and rear, so imported a set of Pedders Poly bushings that included cradles, rear trailing arms. it's a small kit but a start.

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Posted: February 2nd, 2010, 7:45 am
by Strugglerzinc
MAZTUNE wrote:
BUT as always one mod MUST lead to another (pressneas law of Mazda) so yes putting a CAI and better flow intake manifold did lead to a slight lean condition due to more denser air causing to melt the knock sensor constantly from slight detonation. So a fuel upgrade is needed.


Jus ketch mihself here. Was the fuel system upgraded yet or still to be done?

Posted: February 2nd, 2010, 9:05 am
by MAZTUNE
Strugglerzinc wrote:
MAZTUNE wrote:
BUT as always one mod MUST lead to another (pressneas law of Mazda) so yes putting a CAI and better flow intake manifold did lead to a slight lean condition due to more denser air causing to melt the knock sensor constantly from slight detonation. So a fuel upgrade is needed.


Jus ketch mihself here. Was the fuel system upgraded yet or still to be done?


no not yet, that's the next order of business. a fuel regulator to just raise the fuel pressure. it's slight leaning so the regulator should be ok.

Posted: February 2nd, 2010, 12:21 pm
by FullStop
So you removed the stock FPR and replaced it?, which aftermarket one did you use?

Posted: February 2nd, 2010, 9:08 pm
by gallantpan
MAZTUNE, LAL the story teller!! :pics:
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LOL :mrgreen:

Posted: February 3rd, 2010, 8:42 am
by MAZTUNE
ghostbusters wrote:So you removed the stock FPR and replaced it?, which aftermarket one did you use?


well we did not install it yet. but yes the stock FPR regulator is removed and replaced with an aftermarket regulator for NA engines, not rising rate to accommodate for boost. Doing some research at the moment.

Posted: February 3rd, 2010, 1:13 pm
by nareshseep
cool awaits the R&D, looking to go with the intake mod, any precautions to take?

Posted: February 3rd, 2010, 8:16 pm
by MAZTUNE
hmmm well get a good filter, one that can rewash, like a K&N and wash it fairly regular like once every 2 months (i should be taking my own advice here yes LOL) now, naresh if you could afford the proper thing(AEM, K&N) it's better because it's hard aluminum piping so no pressure lost due to piping swelling.

Posted: February 3rd, 2010, 9:18 pm
by nareshseep
my bad maztune, I have a short ram but I was considering the intake manifold from the zm, now it have one with vics the european and the normal one, does the vics make an improvement?

Posted: February 3rd, 2010, 10:25 pm
by MAZTUNE
hmm well if you get it, yes BUT its totally unavailable here. It would work like a sport20 FS-ZE so at 4000RPM, switches to short runners for extra torque. You will get the local ZM or singapore one for about $600.00 around the place. The only difference with the ZM to ZL manifold is the 10mm bolt holding the VVT oil supply line but it does not matter. otherwise its direct fit in.