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[redmanjp]

health minister said they are not aiming to vaccinate every citizen

https://newsday.co.tt/2020/11/18/deyalsingh-covid19-vaccines-for-frontline-workers-elderly-first/

Deyalsingh: Covid19 vaccines for frontline workers, elderly first
NARISSA FRASER 19 HRS AGO
Health Minister Terrence Deyalsingh.

PHOTO BY AYANNA KINSALE
Health Minister Terrence Deyalsingh. PHOTO BY AYANNA KINSALE
AS the world anticipates a covid19 vaccine being approved by the WHO, Health Minister Terrence Deyalsingh said, "There is no plan to vaccinate 1.4 million people (in TT)."

He said there will be "priority groups" who will be vaccinated before the rest of the public.

He was speaking at the Health Ministry's virtual press conference on Wednesday morning.

He had said the Moderna covid19 vaccine, judging from current research, may be the ideal vaccine for TT, as it can be stored at higher temperatures than the Pfizer vaccine.

Asked about the distribution plan for these vaccines, he said, "You don't vaccinate the entire population at the same time. What you do (is) you prioritise.

"The first groups of people that will be prioritised will be all frontline workers, inclusive of healthcare workers, sanitation workers, police, army, Coast Guard...

"The second group you try to vaccinate will be those that bear the brunt of mortality, that is the elderly – typically 60-65 with co-morbidities.

"After you do that, you also target the immuno-compromised, regardless of age. So (if you are) a young cancer patient or a 45-year old cancer patient, you will be first in line for the vaccines."

After this, he said, "We will start to work ourselves down the order of priority into the general population."

He said the ministry has signed up to vaccinate 33 per cent of TT's population.

[VexXx Dogg]

Can we not make this into an antivax thread and keep it specific for the COVID Vaccine?

If you want to talk about the pros and cons of vaccination as a general topic we can ask admin to split it, because anything with differing opinions usually devolves into a shitslinging contest

[adnj]

^ i thinj thats dependent on what vaccine is adopted as the pfizer one for example has steep storage costs.

It may be impossible for many countries to store the Pfizer vaccine properly

Latin America has a population of over 650 million people. The vaccines for all emerging candidates is expected to cost about US$20 per dose and that price is below fair market value.

650m × $20 × 0.2 = $2,600 million

About $2.6 billion, not including logistics, not including administration staff.

The recent candidates also require two doses which effectively doubles the cost, raising it to more than $5.0 billion.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/katiejenni ... a90c00576d

[elec2020]

^ nice information. I think I saw that the Minister of Health also stated that the Moderna vaccine. So that should at least help to bring down logistical costs (transport, storage, etc.). I still not taking it mind you. Will wait for the new babies post vaccine to come out then decide on if I will take it.

[FordeG]

^ nice information. I think I saw that the Minister of Health also stated that the Moderna vaccine. So that should at least help to bring down logistical costs (transport, storage, etc.). I still not taking it mind you. Will wait for the new babies post vaccine to come out then decide on if I will take it.

Very smart advice young man. I've been telling everyone they are fools to take this vaccine.

Vaccines are the best way to legally infiltrate and medicate a population so that they obey.

Notice it is the billionaires who have been made richer by Covid and notice that it is thier kingpin Mr Bill Gates who is pushing for this.

These vaccines made by big pharma, a legal drug cartel, are their safety measure to ensure they alone have control of the world.

This has nothing to do with science, we are witnessing the end of times and we, just like sheep are being herded to our own demise.

DO NOT take this vaccine if you're smart.

[elec2020]

^ idk about all of that. I not taking the vaccine as it is rushed and the long term consequences of a rushed vaccine could be bad. Also, i think that the companies are not liable for any of ths long term consequences from their vaccine. So u going to be suffering in silence

[j.o.e]

^ idk about all of that. I not taking the vaccine as it is rushed and the long term consequences of a rushed vaccine could be bad. Also, i think that the companies are not liable for any of ths long term consequences from their vaccine. So u going to be suffering in silence

If it’s a requirement for travel will you still not take it ? Just asking because I am sure it will be.

[VexXx Dogg]

Just remember as it pertains to _mandatory_ vaccines.
Updated immunisation cards are required for public and private schools, as well as a lot of places of employment.

http://www.health.gov.tt/sitepages/default.aspx?id=232

[elec2020]

^ I am already employed. I also have no kids (that I know off). So I am good to go. The only thing that would change is if the make the vaccine mandatory like what canada and new zealand did/is doing.

[elec2020]

^ idk about all of that. I not taking the vaccine as it is rushed and the long term consequences of a rushed vaccine could be bad. Also, i think that the companies are not liable for any of ths long term consequences from their vaccine. So u going to be suffering in silence

If it’s a requirement for travel will you still not take it ? Just asking because I am sure it will be.

Nope. Its ok for me to miss 1 or 2 years of travel and have healthy kids than to enjoy the luxury of international travel after news drops that let's say 2/5 people with the vaccine at risk of having kids with some sort of birth defect. That's just me. No one needs to take me on. That's just my fear on having a rushed vaccine.

[Dohplaydat]

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-11- ... cancer.amp

TAU researchers currently using CRISPR to destroy cancer cells, wonder how Big Pharma allowed this?

[Dohplaydat]

^ idk about all of that. I not taking the vaccine as it is rushed and the long term consequences of a rushed vaccine could be bad. Also, i think that the companies are not liable for any of ths long term consequences from their vaccine. So u going to be suffering in silence

If it’s a requirement for travel will you still not take it ? Just asking because I am sure it will be.

Nope. Its ok for me to miss 1 or 2 years of travel and have healthy kids than to enjoy the luxury of international travel after news drops that let's say 2/5 people with the vaccine at risk of having kids with some sort of birth defect. That's just me. No one needs to take me on. That's just my fear on having a rushed vaccine.

It's actually far more likely you'll receive long term side effects from Covid than the Covid vaccine.

In other news...

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-11- ... cancer.amp

TAU researchers currently using CRISPR to destroy cancer cells, wonder how Big Pharma allowed this?

[elec2020]

^ please stop tagging me in your comments I do not like to speak to disrespectful people. People who feel that to strengthen the point that they are making that they need to use insults in their comment. To end is this treatment ready for market? How much times have we seen a new ground breaking cancer treatment. And how many times has it been approved for market. Anyway again please stop talking to me. Thank you

[adnj]

^ please stop tagging me in your comments I do not like to speak to disrespectful people. People who feel that to strengthen the point that they are making that they need to use insults in their comment. To end is this treatment ready for market? How much times have we seen a new ground breaking cancer treatment. And how many times has it been approved for market. Anyway again please stop talking to me. Thank you

You can't make up this stuff.

[Dohplaydat]

^ please stop tagging me in your comments I do not like to speak to disrespectful people. People who feel that to strengthen the point that they are making that they need to use insults in their comment. To end is this treatment ready for market? How much times have we seen a new ground breaking cancer treatment. And how many times has it been approved for market. Anyway again please stop talking to me. Thank you

Covid has really affected this one.....better get vaccinated before I end up like this.

[teems1]

^ nice information. I think I saw that the Minister of Health also stated that the Moderna vaccine. So that should at least help to bring down logistical costs (transport, storage, etc.). I still not taking it mind you. Will wait for the new babies post vaccine to come out then decide on if I will take it.

Very smart advice young man. I've been telling everyone they are fools to take this vaccine.

Vaccines are the best way to legally infiltrate and medicate a population so that they obey.

Notice it is the billionaires who have been made richer by Covid and notice that it is thier kingpin Mr Bill Gates who is pushing for this.

These vaccines made by big pharma, a legal drug cartel, are their safety measure to ensure they alone have control of the world.

This has nothing to do with science, we are witnessing the end of times and we, just like sheep are being herded to our own demise.

DO NOT take this vaccine if you're smart.

You know, when watching movies like Contagion, I thought Jude Law's character was so outlandish it would never happen when a real life pandemic hits.

Then you have posts like this.

[timothymcdavid]

I think this one is 3USD per dose.

[adnj]

I think this one is 3USD per dose.

$3 - $4 per dose. Two doses required. Pricing is only until July 1st. Public funds were used during research and development.

"AstraZeneca has received large amounts of public money to develop its vaccine and secure forward orders, including at least $1bn from the US. Supply deals to date indicate that the vaccine, which requires two doses, is priced at about $3 to $4 per dose, lower than the prices disclosed or reported for other potential vaccines."

https://www.ft.com/content/c474f9e1-880 ... 4af145b686

[Dohplaydat]

I think this one is 3USD per dose.

$3 - $4 per dose. Two doses required. Pricing is only until July 1st. Public funds were used during research and development.

"AstraZeneca has received large amounts of public money to develop its vaccine and secure forward orders, including at least $1bn from the US. Supply deals to date indicate that the vaccine, which requires two doses, is priced at about $3 to $4 per dose, lower than the prices disclosed or reported for other potential vaccines."

https://www.ft.com/content/c474f9e1-880 ... 4af145b686

What temperature is needed to store these AstraZenaca vaccines? Big fan of the researchers who worked on this

[adnj]

Pfizer Covid Vaccine Faces Hurdles After FDA Filing Friday

Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE requested emergency authorization of their Covid vaccine on Friday, and it could take at least three weeks for a U.S. Food and Drug Administration decision as trial data is probed by agency staff and outside advisers.

Shown to be 95% effective and without any major safety issues, their vaccine could be the first to be cleared for use, but first it must undergo a thorough vetting. The filing could enable its use by the middle to the end of December, the companies said in a statement.

A key step along the way is a meeting of outside FDA advisers, all experts in infectious diseases and vaccines. The FDA will convene the advisory group Dec. 10 to discuss Pfizer and BioNTech’s vaccine, according to a statement from the agency Friday. The FDA will spend the few short weeks between the emergency authorization request and the meeting sorting through the trial data.

“I don’t find that time frame to be unreasonable in light of the amount of data the agency needs to analyze and in order to ensure full participation by all stakeholders in the advisory committee,” said John Taylor, who served as counselor to the head of the FDA during the Obama administration and now works as a consultant at Greenleaf Health. “It ensures that the agency can conduct a well run, well attended advisory committee in order to ensure maximum transparency, which I think will be an important factor in patients’ willingness to take the vaccine.”



FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn also said earlier this week the agency will post documents related to its review of any vaccine granted an emergency authorization. The aim is to “contribute to the public’s confidence in the agency’s rigorous review of scientific data and the appropriate use of authorized products.”

Pfizer gained 1.4% in New York, while BioNTech’s American depositary receipts rose 9.6%.

The emergency authorization process allows drugs and vaccines targeting Covid-19 to reach Americans much faster than through standard approval channels. The FDA review process normally takes about six to 10 months, depending on the candidate’s priority status. Some treatments, such as certain cancer drugs, are cleared in just a couple of months.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medica ... r-BB1bceWI

[elec2020]

It begins: "People in Wales are to receive an ID-style card to prove they have been vaccinated for coronavirus."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... virus.html

[Devourment]

It begins: "People in Wales are to receive an ID-style card to prove they have been vaccinated for coronavirus."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... virus.html

What begins? proof of being vaccinated was always needed.

[teems1]

It begins: "People in Wales are to receive an ID-style card to prove they have been vaccinated for coronavirus."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... virus.html

Are you not aware of the immunization card?

Most countries around the world already have one.

[elec2020]

Since when are u required to carry around proof of vaccination like id?

[Dohplaydat]

Well I see absolutely no issue with this as well, if you want to go to a bar, restaurant, club, airplane, cinema, how else are you going to prove you're safe and not a carrier?

[redmanjp]

^ make sense, those place allow removal of mask for eating/drinking unlike other places

[adnj]

Since when are u required to carry around proof of vaccination like id?

You get one or you will be spending plenty of time at home. And if you do, that's okay.

The EU is proposing travel restriction s based on compulsory vaccination non-compliance.

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The ‘Roadmap for the implementation of actions by the European Commission based on the Commission communication and the Council recommendation on strengthening cooperation against vaccine preventable diseases’ (1) includes a Commission proposal to introduce a vaccination card for EU citizens in 2022.

This is currently a subject of debate in the light of the COVID-19 crisis.

1. Has consideration been given to the composition of the card, i.e. what information it should contain, which authority should issue it or the technical conceptualisation (fingerprint identification, what data are stored and where)? Please provide full details on all these aspects.

2. Does the Commission plan to incorporate a recommendation to make all vaccinations recommended by the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) compulsory in the proposal to introduce a vaccination card for all EU citizens?

3. Is the Commission considering linking the introduction of a vaccination card to the possible withdrawal of certain rights in the event of the recommended vaccinations not being obtained, or the possible granting of certain rights where the recommended vaccinations are obtained?

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/do ... 27_EN.html

[elec2020]

I don't mind getting one 2/3 years after every one else. When i see for myself the long term effects of the vaccine. Till then i won't be taking it. I am feargul though that our government will adopt this approach and thus force mandatory vaccination.

[adnj]

I don't mind getting one 2/3 years after every one else. When i see for myself the long term effects of the vaccine. Till then i won't be taking it. I am feargul though that our government will adopt this approach and thus force mandatory vaccination.

Private organizations in the USA are preparing immunization requirements for facilities access.

This may very well become standard practice worldwide.

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Yes, some Americans may be required to get a COVID-19 vaccine but not by the federal government.

With two coronavirus vaccines under emergency review by the Food and Drug Administration, the nation's attention is turning to who will get the vaccine first and when.

A big question remains: Will Americans be required to get vaccinated?

For some, the short answer is yes, public health and legal experts say. But a mandate is not likely anytime soon, and likely not to come from the federal government. Instead, employers and states may condition return or access to workplaces, schools and colleges upon getting the vaccine and mandate it once the FDA issues full approval, potentially months later.

"It's much more likely that a private organization or company will require you to be vaccinated to get certain access to places," said Arthur Caplan, a professor of bioethics at the New York University Grossman School of Medicine. "People worry about the president, governor, or county executive telling them what to do. I don’t think that’s going to happen."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/yes-s ... r-BB1bEdLb

[elec2020]

^ time will tell. as lawsuits have allowed people to by-pass vaccine restricition:

"However, “mandatory” doesn’t always mean mandatory. In some circumstances, healthcare providers may have to grant exceptions to their “mandatory” vaccination programs. Federal and state discrimination laws require employers to provide reasonable accommodations to employees with disabilities and sincerely-held religious beliefs. Some employees may be medically unable to receive the flu vaccine. Others may have religious objections. Absent undue hardship, healthcare providers will need to create exceptions to their “mandatory” policies for employees as a reasonable accommodation for the employees’ disabilities or religious practices.

Missteps in the accommodation process can open the door to litigation. Last year, the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) sued a hospital that declined to grant religious exemptions for six employees who refused the flu vaccine. The case settled for $300,000. Another similar case, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission v. Baystate Medical Center, is still pending in federal court."

https://ogletree.com/insights/mandatory ... -the-shot/