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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby rspann » February 21st, 2020, 6:36 am

Not all concrete boards good. CW in El Socorro on the corner by the highway has a good one and Commercial Representations in Macoya. Use fiberglass tape and Basecoat on the joints and surface and you have a product just like if it was blocks and plaster. The only thing is, it's more expensive in the long run if you factor in framing and sheeting both sides. Labour is specialised so that adds up. I use it to close up spaces or any minor changes where blocking up is a challenge. Recently used it on one of those houses where they used glass around the top , you can't even tell it's not concrete.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby screwbash » February 24th, 2020, 5:51 am

just ah lil outside store room i want to block around. studying if to go blocks, concrete board, or galvanize sheeting ( the smooth under ceiling) size is 10 x17 any recommendations ?

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby carluva » February 24th, 2020, 11:18 am

I would always say build for the future once you can afford to.

10x17 is a good size storeroom to put some tanks on later on. That said, consider building out of filled concrete blocks with proper foundation and steel embedded throughout the cores of the blocks so that you can tie the same into a decking later on. You don't have to do the decking now, as a roof will suffice. Later on if you choose, you will have a sound structure to support a decking.

If not, the I would recommend blocks. Regardless of what you use, once it's meant to be a permanent structure, a good floor and foundation is needed. All other methods would need framing which would send the cost up. Blocks are the way to go. You could even do 4" concrete blocks and point them out instead of plaster them. It'll look good too.

But, I would stick to my original recommendation cause once you going blocks, there would be a small incremental investment to get a structure that I recommended.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby carluva » February 24th, 2020, 12:22 pm

Has anyone built a fish pond? I've been looking to do one for a few years and finally want to bite the bullet.

It'll be about 32 inches below grade and about 8 inches above.

What's better? Concrete base and filled blocks or the pond liner? I can't get the latter locally so it'll have to be sea freighted. So cost wise, what'll be more economical.

The shape is an 'L' with an inside width of 3 feet and the long side of the 'L' 15 feet and the short side of the 'L' 6 feet.

Thoughts welcome.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby worksux101 » February 24th, 2020, 2:07 pm

carluva wrote:Has anyone built a fish pond? I've been looking to do one for a few years and finally want to bite the bullet.

It'll be about 32 inches below grade and about 8 inches above.

What's better? Concrete base and filled blocks or the pond liner? I can't get the latter locally so it'll have to be sea freighted. So cost wise, what'll be more economical.

The shape is an 'L' with an inside width of 3 feet and the long side of the 'L' 15 feet and the short side of the 'L' 6 feet.

Thoughts welcome.


Looking to do same in a few months with a waterfall. Irregular size though.
From research, liner is obviously significantly easier with a lower fail rate, but getting to size is difficult

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby carluva » February 24th, 2020, 3:50 pm

Yup. The cost of the liner I sourced in the 'L' shape is about USD1300.

The I'll factor about TTD2000 for freight and clearing.

So that's over TTD10k for liner. How would blocks compare?

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby rspann » February 24th, 2020, 4:06 pm

If you go with blocks it's cheaper ,but you must do it properly otherwise it leaks. Also you must do a bond beam or at least do a deck to secure to walls from moving, since it will cause cracks between the wall and the floor. Then coat with Diamond Brite.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby RedVEVO » February 24th, 2020, 4:10 pm

carluva wrote:Has anyone built a fish pond? I've been looking to do one for a few years and finally want to bite the bullet.

It'll be about 32 inches below grade and about 8 inches above.

What's better? Concrete base and filled blocks or the pond liner? I can't get the latter locally so it'll have to be sea freighted. So cost wise, what'll be more economical.

The shape is an 'L' with an inside width of 3 feet and the long side of the 'L' 15 feet and the short side of the 'L' 6 feet.

Thoughts welcome.


Bro they breed free water Talapia in " plastic / canvas house pool " available on Amazon .

There is a German Engineer in Freeport who has successfully been doing this for years .

The quality is exceptional .

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby carluva » February 24th, 2020, 5:26 pm

When you saw a bond beam, you mean like a "ring beam" across the top, right?

When you say to do it properly, I would have started using a steel reinforced floor, about 5" thick, with long starter bars through which 6" concrete blocks would have been set, all the way to the top. The 6" concrete blocks would have been filled with concrete. After setting blocks, the inside surface would have been mortared using regular sand and cement. After that, i thought to make a grout mix using sand and cement and paint that on the walls, probably a few coats. Then finally some black paint on the inside.

After that, I'd let the pond soak and circulatea month or so before introducing fish and plants. This would allow the alkalines from the cement to leach out and then make for overall better water quality.

Does that sound acceptable and fit the bill for doing it properly? Not sure diamond brite is required as that'll surely send cost up

And that entire process you think would be cheaper overall than a liner?
rspann wrote:If you go with blocks it's cheaper ,but you must do it properly otherwise it leaks. Also you must do a bond beam or at least do a deck to secure to walls from moving, since it will cause cracks between the wall and the floor. Then coat with Diamond Brite.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby rspann » February 24th, 2020, 5:33 pm

Sounds good like you did your research, but without something to restrict lateral movement of the walls , cracks would develop at the floor line because concrete doesn't really joi.n. that why when building a pool shell a single casting or spraying of shot Crete is recommended . I saw a guy in seemungal Trace penal build a pond six feet deep using solid casting. Go take a look . He's doing the same thing. When you go in seemungal tr. Take the first left ,it's the yard after the sawmill. He even cast two beams avcross to hold the walls. You could do a two feet slab around the top that joins into the steel from the ring beam.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby pugboy » February 24th, 2020, 6:08 pm

why would someone need a 6ft deep pond ?

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby rspann » February 24th, 2020, 6:12 pm

Hear what you asking me. I know about car not tilapia. Something about using the waste ,I think was for gardening . I really don't know but I'll ask. Two feet was above ground I think. So probably safety?

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby carluva » February 24th, 2020, 6:25 pm

Still not sure that concrete will be cheaper than liner


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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby rspann » February 24th, 2020, 6:34 pm

So they can't just dig a hole and put some heavy polythene in it, rest some stones around the outside and fill it up?

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby carluva » February 24th, 2020, 7:26 pm

Yea I suppose so. But polythene is not UV resistant and will break down. Plus the heavy duty polythene is only 6 mils thick and this could tear easily.

I not too sure about polythene. I'll have to see or hear some first hand experiences before I am convinced.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby rspann » February 24th, 2020, 7:36 pm

My wife family in Penal have ponds in their back yard with cascadoux and and another black one I can't remember, they just dig it out. No concrete nothing and since I going there it always full of fish

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby Phone Surgeon » February 24th, 2020, 8:24 pm

I have commercial 30mil pond liner to sell. Cutting off a 19 foot wide 300 foot long roll so you can get the size you want....

This is very thick material eh. Not soft flexy one you see in those garden stores.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby carluva » February 24th, 2020, 8:27 pm

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Phone Surgeon wrote:I have commercial 30mil pond liner to sell. Cutting off a 19 foot wide 300 foot long roll so you can get the size you want....

This is very thick material eh. Not soft flexy one you see in those garden stores.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby Phone Surgeon » February 27th, 2020, 7:28 am

Hired someone to do some work for me and saw they brought ikkon foundation blocks.
Anyone ever use blocks from that company? They of some quality as abel?

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby rspann » February 27th, 2020, 10:35 am

Phone Surgeon wrote:Hired someone to do some work for me and saw they brought ikkon foundation blocks.
Anyone ever use blocks from that company? They of some quality as abel?


They working good and they strong . They cheaper so maybe he using them to cut cost . If you groove pointing, nothing beats ABEL.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby ramorr » February 28th, 2020, 9:29 am

Any links for greenheart wood for sale?

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby eitech » March 2nd, 2020, 5:16 pm

Anyone with experience using a 1 micron water filter cartridge on the mains supply?

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby pugboy » March 2nd, 2020, 5:36 pm

can only imagine how fast it will clog

eitech wrote:Anyone with experience using a 1 micron water filter cartridge on the mains supply?

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Building a house in Trinidad

Postby telfer » March 2nd, 2020, 5:38 pm

ramorr wrote:Any links for greenheart wood for sale?

There is a place opposite the Chaguanas fire station I got from to build my front door
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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby telfer » March 2nd, 2020, 5:42 pm

telfer wrote:
ramorr wrote:Any links for greenheart wood for sale?

There is a place opposite the Chaguanas fire station I got from to build my front door
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Timberyard homes is the name

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby adnj » March 2nd, 2020, 6:49 pm

pugboy wrote:can only imagine how fast it will clog

eitech wrote:Anyone with experience using a 1 micron water filter cartridge on the mains supply?
Agreed. After a lot of time with private well water, I never saw anything like that for point of entry. I assume that you will be following the sediment filter with a charcoal filter for better taste and clarity.

I checked and what I used was 4 or 5 microns. You could always use a finer, additional under-sink kitchen filter for the refrigerator and a drinking water tap for consumption.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby pugboy » March 2nd, 2020, 7:22 pm

What other types of wood that place have ?
I looking for some boards to build some shelves.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby eitech » March 2nd, 2020, 9:02 pm

adnj wrote:
pugboy wrote:can only imagine how fast it will clog

eitech wrote:Anyone with experience using a 1 micron water filter cartridge on the mains supply?
Agreed. After a lot of time with private well water, I never saw anything like that for point of entry. I assume that you will be following the sediment filter with a charcoal filter for better taste and clarity.

I checked and what I used was 4 or 5 microns. You could always use a finer, additional under-sink kitchen filter for the refrigerator and a drinking water tap for consumption.


I already have a 5 micron under the kitchen sink. I recently cleaned the tank and installed a filter so i was wondering what size micron to use there. I haven’t started to fill the tank via the filter yet though

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby adnj » March 2nd, 2020, 10:09 pm

That depends on what you have installed. The cartridges are usually available with more than one concentric media type so that they don't clog as easily and filter down to 5μ before heading into your reserve tank.

You can use carbon under the sink to filter out smaller sediment and chemicals.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby tr1ad » March 4th, 2020, 12:02 pm

Thoughts on prefab?
Are they durable / worth it?

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