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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby TurboSingh12 » February 4th, 2019, 9:16 am

Heard the building a Tunnel Oropuche Junction.

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby The_Honourable » April 11th, 2019, 4:03 pm

Over 100 properties acquired for highway no longer needed

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The State is sad­dled with $345 mil­lion in claims for prop­er­ties that were ac­quired to make way for the con­struc­tion of the Solomon Ho­choy High­way Ex­ten­sion to Point Fortin.

And over 100 prop­er­ties were ac­quired that are no longer in the way of the pro­posed road de­vel­op­ment.

This was re­vealed by Works and Trans­port Min­is­ter Ro­han Sinanan on Wednes­day dur­ing an event in Guapo, where Prime Min­is­ter Dr Kei­th Row­ley turned the sod for pack­ages, 5D, 6C and 3A of the high­way ex­ten­sion project.

With $1.9 bil­lion spent by the Nid­co for the 12 pack­ages to com­plete the high­way from Dum­fries Road, La Ro­maine to the Dun­lop Round­about in Point Fortin, Sinanan said that the land ac­qui­si­tion that was bud­get­ed at $400 mil­lion in 2010 when the project was con­cep­tu­alised by a for­mer PNM ad­min­is­tra­tion sky­rock­et­ed to $800 mil­lion by the time the UNC gov­ern­ment award­ed the con­tract to the em­bat­tled Brazil­ian firm, Con­stru­to­ra OAS in 2012.

With the claims mount­ing, the fig­ure is pro­ject­ed to cross $1 bil­lion. Al­ready, $500 mil­lion has been spent on land ac­qui­si­tion with $345 mil­lion in claims to the State.

Sinanan said that 50 per cent of the prop­er­ty which need to be ac­quired are still out­stand­ing.

He said that a note will be pre­sent­ed to the Cab­i­net to­day to de­cide on how the gov­ern­ment will deal with land ac­qui­si­tion go­ing for­ward. Sinanan said the ma­jor­i­ty of land pre­vi­ous­ly ac­quired for the con­struc­tion of the high­way were done out­side of the pro­tec­tion of the Land Ac­qui­si­tion Act but through pri­vate treaty. This means that ne­go­ti­a­tions for com­pen­sa­tion were done out­side of the Com­mis­sion­er of Val­u­a­tions De­part­ment.

“Un­for­tu­nate­ly, this sit­u­a­tion has placed Nid­co and the State in a per­ilous sit­u­a­tion, hav­ing now to ex­pend sig­nif­i­cant fi­nan­cial re­sources in le­gal fees to de­fend those claims where claimants are ar­gu­ing that they now have a le­git­i­mate ex­pec­ta­tion to be paid what was agreed to un­der these pri­vate treaty arrange­ments.

“To com­pound the sit­u­a­tion, the pre­vi­ous gov­ern­ment took the un­prece­dent­ed de­ci­sion to serve land ac­qui­si­tion no­tice to all oc­cu­pants and own­ers of prop­er­ties that were lo­cat­ed along the en­tire Right of Way of the high­way, in­clu­sive of Sec­tion 4 le­gal or­ders which au­tho­rised the State to take pos­ses­sion of the lands with­in a stip­u­lat­ed six months pe­ri­od,” Sinanan said.

While con­struc­tion was on­go­ing, the Right of Way was changed to re­duce the cost of the high­way project, with an es­ti­mat­ed 11 km of the road­way be­ing omit­ted from the plan. This meant that 200 peo­ple whose lands were in the orig­i­nal de­sign for the con­struc­tion, were re­moved from the list of ac­qui­si­tions.

But dur­ing the process, prop­er­ty own­ers were re­quired to re­tain pri­vate val­u­a­tors and le­gal rep­re­sen­ta­tives to sub­mit claims on their be­half. Sinanan said that over 100 prop­er­ties that we ac­quired and paid for by Nid­co were no longer re­quired. “To date, those per­sons’ lives re­main in lim­bo be­cause even though there was a re­align­ment of the high­way in many parts, the nec­es­sary no­tices were not served un­der the Land Ac­qui­si­tion Act to dis­con­tin­ue the land ac­qui­si­tion process and re­move this pro­longed veil of un­cer­tain­ty over the lives of these cit­i­zens.”

Row­ley re­called a prop­er­ty that was val­ued at $20 mil­lion but by the time ad­di­tion­al cost were made for dis­tur­bance and oth­er fac­tors, the price rose to $84 mil­lion. He said if the gov­ern­ment did not change, mon­ey would have been paid.

Source: http://www.cnc3.co.tt/press-release/ove ... ger-needed

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby maj. tom » April 11th, 2019, 4:18 pm

And you see how "explain your wealth" does not affect most of the persons who get money from the Government? It was legally given away. The wealth is easily explained. Like how much to tow a firetruck?

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby rspann » April 11th, 2019, 4:24 pm

What those NAMALCO trucks doing in the background?

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby The_Honourable » April 11th, 2019, 6:11 pm

rspann wrote:What those NAMALCO trucks doing in the background?


Commencement of works on:

Package 5D - Southern Main Road to Dunlop Roundabout. Namalco for 285.5 million.

Package 6C - La Brea Interchange to Southern Main Road and Fyzabad Road to Mon Desir Interchange. General Earth Movers for 161.8 million.

Package 3A - The Southern Main Road Overpass and La Brea Bridge. Lutchmeesingh Transport for 272.4 million.

Works expected to be finished by late 2020. Work packages will be prepared to complete all works between Golconda to Suchit Trace in Penal.

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby rspann » April 11th, 2019, 6:15 pm

Nah, when Growlers now win election, he was talking about corrupt UNC contractors who not going to get paid and how they was a cartel.

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby Adam95 » July 11th, 2019, 6:27 am

Any update on this? I havent seen any progress on the creek for a few weeks now.

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby TurboSingh12 » July 11th, 2019, 8:44 am

Adam95 wrote:Any update on this? I havent seen any progress on the creek for a few weeks now.


Currently no work is being done. Im not sure why though.The rate theY goin another 5years might hit them and alot off money pocket.

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby urbandilema » July 11th, 2019, 9:43 pm

TurboSingh12 wrote:
Adam95 wrote:Any update on this? I havent seen any progress on the creek for a few weeks now.


Currently no work is being done. Im not sure why though.The rate theY goin another 5years might hit them and alot off money pocket.
Ah think they working on the part by cochrane by ansad..if i not wrong

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » July 12th, 2019, 10:19 am

Adam95 wrote:Any update on this? I havent seen any progress on the creek for a few weeks now.


fck the highway...gov't studying to do a COE to see why all that $$ was spent on land acquisition :|

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby zoom rader » July 12th, 2019, 10:48 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:
Adam95 wrote:Any update on this? I havent seen any progress on the creek for a few weeks now.


fck the highway...gov't studying to do a COE to see why all that $$ was spent on land acquisition :|
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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby Rovin » July 12th, 2019, 10:59 am

4yrs pee en em had to inquire but suddenly they do it now , watch & u will suddenly see more red herrings

hope they inquire on why al fairy got so much free rent for unoccupied space & why petrotrin paid for excess oil ....

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » July 12th, 2019, 11:00 am

Rovin wrote:4yrs pee en em had to inquire but suddenly they do it now , watch & u will suddenly see more red herrings

hope they inquire on why al fairy got so much free rent for unoccupied space & why petrotrin paid for excess oil ....


them files going to flush down the DPP'S toilet

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » July 13th, 2019, 12:58 pm

Politicians these days dont go to jail

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby The_Honourable » September 10th, 2019, 3:33 pm

As a result of the meeting between MP Dr Bodoe, representatives NIDCO and members of the Mon Desir Village Council, the following decisions were taken.

1. Access to Delhi Road to the New Point Fortin Highway will be kept allowing residents to continue using the highway when completed.

2. The portion of the highway from Mon Desir Interchange to Pepper Village will be completed by the end of next year as the contract was already awarded.

3. The street lights on the highway fall under the purview of the contractor and they should start work on repairs within the next few week.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/94652214872807 ... 354553370/

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby ElSoc » September 12th, 2019, 9:38 am

The_Honourable wrote:As a result of the meeting between MP Dr Bodoe, representatives NIDCO and members of the Mon Desir Village Council, the following decisions were taken.

1. Access to Delhi Road to the New Point Fortin Highway will be kept allowing residents to continue using the highway when completed.

2. The portion of the highway from Mon Desir Interchange to Pepper Village will be completed by the end of next year as the contract was already awarded.

3. The street lights on the highway fall under the purview of the contractor and they should start work on repairs within the next few week.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/94652214872807 ... 354553370/


So is this project progressing? What about the section by the creek?

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby The_Honourable » September 14th, 2019, 10:11 am

ElSoc wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:As a result of the meeting between MP Dr Bodoe, representatives NIDCO and members of the Mon Desir Village Council, the following decisions were taken.

1. Access to Delhi Road to the New Point Fortin Highway will be kept allowing residents to continue using the highway when completed.

2. The portion of the highway from Mon Desir Interchange to Pepper Village will be completed by the end of next year as the contract was already awarded.

3. The street lights on the highway fall under the purview of the contractor and they should start work on repairs within the next few week.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/94652214872807 ... 354553370/


So is this project progressing? What about the section by the creek?


Yeah, saw works going on this week at Mosquito Creek, Otaheite, Grants Road and i believe Vance River.

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby toyolink » September 14th, 2019, 1:06 pm

This project has gotten so messy and confused, citizens just seem to have gotten to a point where expectations for some kind of completion and the associated opportunity to commute north to south efficiently and comfortably has dwindled to nothing.
The dream to take family to visit other family in the deep south from time to time and rekindle relationships and memories are quickly evaporating.

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby goalpost » September 14th, 2019, 1:13 pm

Spoke to AECOM rep last week who said the creek part is supposed to be opened later this year. They will then work on the other side (closer to sea) to open fully next year.

They are currently working on all sections. The piece by Vance River and Baroid is ongoing. Utility relocation occurring these days.

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby Calor » September 14th, 2019, 5:50 pm

toyolink wrote:This project has gotten so messy and confused, citizens just seem to have gotten to a point where expectations for some kind of completion and the associated opportunity to commute north to south efficiently and comfortably has dwindled to nothing.
The dream to take family to visit other family in the deep south from time to time and rekindle relationships and memories are quickly evaporating.


Well said

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby The_Honourable » October 22nd, 2019, 6:54 pm

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby The_Honourable » October 23rd, 2019, 12:45 pm

New mosquito creek roadway opened, old one going to be elevated to the same height as the new.


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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby abbow » October 23rd, 2019, 1:03 pm

in two weeks that piece of road was prepped and paved.....what the firetruck was keeping that from happening all this time?????

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby wickedtuna » October 23rd, 2019, 2:01 pm

Fresh ting
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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby The_Honourable » October 23rd, 2019, 3:40 pm

Glad it open but amm... no shoulder?

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby gastly369 » October 23rd, 2019, 5:21 pm

Road done Sinking near Bridge...

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby ElSoc » October 23rd, 2019, 7:06 pm

It's seems like a really temporary/make shift structure so the settling and all that is to be expected.

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby sMASH » October 23rd, 2019, 7:50 pm

gastly369 wrote:Road done Sinking near Bridge...

pic or u lie.

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Re: San Fernando to Point Fortin Highway

Postby nervewrecker » October 23rd, 2019, 8:34 pm

sMASH wrote:
gastly369 wrote:Road done Sinking near Bridge...

pic or u lie.


drive it and you will see. I drive a pickup and I does feel it so imagine the average guy in their sedan. Not like he driving an average sedan anyways....but nevertheless, he does feel it.

Someone told me no overtaking allowed on the new stretch, how long now it have a sign on the creek saying no overtaking? Ent we does overtake? Man is overtake after overtake taking place :drinking:

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