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Postby Scoobert Bauce » June 28th, 2012, 8:17 pm

they call jack Ravan yes... I nearly dead with laugh lol

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Postby Habit7 » June 28th, 2012, 8:31 pm

If PNM had done this 2 years ago, Ramlogan and Devant would would have sued on behalf of GOPIO that a black man oppressing indo trinis.

Today is it squatting backward indo trinis verbally and racially abusing the Right and Honourable Minister of National Security.


When was the turning point?

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Postby K74T » June 28th, 2012, 8:39 pm

UML wrote:Image

this is a holy thread now

squatting is still illegal and the reroute ppl trying to gain pity points by now making this issue a religious one.


As if Hanooman, Ganesh, Lakshmi or the rest of the crew actually give a sh1t about their issues :roll:

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Postby redmanjp » June 28th, 2012, 9:15 pm

ah hear kublalsingh slap ah officer?

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Postby K74T » June 28th, 2012, 9:18 pm

Jack Warner stated that it was one of the soldiers who got slapped actually.

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Postby shogun » June 28th, 2012, 9:42 pm

Sounds out of character for Kublalsingh. But then again, i wasn't there.

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Postby Scoobert Bauce » June 28th, 2012, 10:35 pm

Kublalsingh is batshit crazy. But he aint that crazy

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Postby aspsounds » June 29th, 2012, 3:40 am

Nah...I think he batshit crazy

Scoobert Bauce wrote:Kublalsingh is batshit crazy. But he aint that crazy

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Postby RIPEBREDFRUIT » June 29th, 2012, 7:25 am

handfull of local village idiots want to stop development- why does this seem to to be trinidads predominent suitation........................

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Postby *$kїđž!™ » June 29th, 2012, 7:38 am

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/AG_ ... 82215.html

AG praises Jack: He saved the country million$
By Ria Taitt Political Editor
Story Created: Jun 28, 2012 at 11:00 PM ECT
Story Updated: Jun 28, 2012 at 11:00 PM ECT
Attorney General Anand Ramlogan yesterday put up a defiant defence of Jack Warner, praising his role in the demolition of the camp of the Highway Re-Route Movement at Debe on Wednesday.
Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar is yet to speak on the issue but at yesterday's post-Cabinet news conference, ministers yesterday supported Warner in the strongest possible terms.
While observers have raised the constitutional implications of Warner's role, the Attorney General justified it, saying Warner's presence prevented the desecration of religious deities. "If Minister Warner did not go there as a representative of the Government and the people, you know what would have happened? They would have said that the army and the police were not sufficiently apprised of the religious sensitivities. Minister Warner is the one who secured the deities," Ramlogan said.
"It cannot be that people could decide to pitch a tent on State lands, call two babas, put up three jhandis and then say the land is consecrated. Can't work! That is lawlessness of the highest order!" Ramlogan said.
He added that the invisible price tag for the taxpayers would run into hundreds of millions because litigation (by the contractor) was in the making.
"It cannot be that I must sit down as Attorney General, see a train coming to hit me at high speed, and I must worry about 20 people who trying to bully, intimidate, harass and blackmailing the Government and the people of Trinidad and Tobago into stopping a multi-billion dollar project.
"That can't be right! And I have been calling for action on this matter to protect the legal position of the State, lest it be eroded and compromised any further on the altar of political expediency," he added.
Ramlogan also presented a dollars-and-cents justification, saying the country stood to lose hundreds of millions.
"Even if that matter were to go to court (as a result of action taken by the Re-Routers), the compensation would be minuscule as compared to what the country would have had to pay out—which is hundreds of millions of dollars—to the Construtora OAS (the contractor). And when you pay that, you have hundreds of millions less to complete the hospitals, to buy laptops for children...".
Ramlogan said projects of this magnitude carried great financial risk and the risk exposure from a legal liability standpoint when these projects were disrupted and derailed were quite enormous.
The ramifications and implications of the protesters who block this highway and prevented further work from being done on it are deep seated and quite dire, he said, and the Government would have been put in a precarious legal position had something not been done to deal with that matter in an effective, decisive and firm manner.
The Attorney General said Warner was subjected to the worse possible form of religious and racial abuse, inflammatory and provocative in the most vile manner.
"Not a single word has been said (by the critics) about the restraint, maturity and sensible approach of Mr Warner in dealing with this matter. Today, I invite all those who seek to criticise the Government ... to answer the question: What was the lawful right of those persons to occupy State lands, hitch a camp ... start to cook a broth ... and after they start to make curry once a day, turning into three square meals a day and then transcending into people sleeping in this camp on State lands ... holding prayers like if they start to live in this camp, and daring the Government (all the while) to move them. It cannot be that it is 'my way and no highway'," he said.
Ramlogan commended Warner for the studied restraint and maturity he demonstrated under fire.
On the argument that the constitutional separation of powers was breached, Ramlogan said the separation of powers did not mean that the (legislative and coercive) arms of the State were mutually exclusive.
He recalled that in the past national security ministers and prime ministers visited road blocks. He also recalled that when the wall of the Jamaat building was pulled down during the United National Congress' (UNC) tenure, the then national security minister " featured prominently" in that exercise.
"So this is nothing new," he said. The AG denied Warner was directing the activity of army or police, describing the assertion as "mischievous" and a "falsehood".
He said too that the Government, (unlike what happens with a squatter resident on a property) did not need to send an eviction notice to the protesters who had hitched a camp.
He noted that unlike the smelter issue, nothing had been filed in the court despite the convenient references to possible litigation in this matter to buttress the political rhetoric.
Ramlogan said the Opposition had no moral credibility or political authority to speak on this matter. He said there were images of Dr Peter Vine during the smelter protest being repeatedly dragged, kicked, tossed and thrown in the water without a murmur from Dr Keith Rowley and others.
He recalled too that he (Ramlogan) represented George Daniel who pitched a tent outside National Flour Mills in protest of its discriminatory hiring practices and that Majorie Beepatsingh, "a well known PNM supporter" and a police officer, went with police and army officers and "yanked people out of their wheelchairs, threw them on the ground, assaulted and battered them".
Ramlogan said not a word was said by Rowley and others who are now speaking out against this matter.
He noted that the Re-Route Movement started off with a protest outside the personal private residence of the Prime Minister, then a protest outside the Debe High School on Indian Arrival Day "when persons went on the private compound of the school and prostrated themselves in an effort to get the Prime Minister's security detail to roll over them".
The police forcibly removed them but they were not charged for breaching the peace, he said. Then, he added, came the final bold measure of planting a few jhandis, having a puja and consecrating the spot as if to say "well if yuh touch it now, yuh touching the Hindu community"

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Re: Re-Route Movement Camp broken down

Postby *$kїđž!™ » June 29th, 2012, 7:39 am

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GIBBS HAD NO CLUE
Police: Warner did not consult top cop in demolition of Debe camp

By Donstan Bonn
Story Created: Jun 28, 2012 at 11:00 PM ECT
Story Updated: Jun 28, 2012 at 11:00 PM ECT
Police Commissioner Dwayne Gibbs had no prior knowledge of the plan to demolish the Highway Re-Route Movement's camp in Debe on Wednesday.
This was stated by the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service yesterday.
The release from the Police Service's Public Affairs Unit stated: "At no time was the Commissioner of Police apprised or consulted that there would be the removal of the Highway Protest camp."
It further stated that the Assistant Commissioner of Police, South (Fitzroy Frederick) was contacted by National Security Minister Jack Warner around 5.30 a.m. requesting a police presence at the location, "and in the interest of keeping peace and maintaining order, four officers were sent to the location".
Speaking during yesterday's daily police press briefing at the Police Administration Building in Port of Spain, police public information officer, Sgt Wayne Mystar, said he could not shed any light on the reason why Gibbs was not contacted and why Warner instead directed his request to the Asst Commissioner in charge of South.
He declined to comment on whether Gibbs' authority was usurped by Warner, but added: "A request was made by the minister and he was within his right to make a request."
Mystar said reports in the media pointing to heavily armed police officers at the scene on Wednesday were not accurate as the heavily armed officers were members of the Trinidad and Tobago Defence Force (TTDF).
He said the police arrived at the scene some time after the soldiers and they removed one individual who was released shortly thereafter.
He added that any questions regarding the role the soldiers played in the demolition should be directed at Capt Al Alexander, public relations officer for the Trinidad and Tobago Defence Force (TTDF).
Asked yesterday if he would have had to report to Gibbs before deploying police officers to Debe on Wednesday, Frederick said: "Not necessarily. It depends on the situation."
Frederick said he had not yet received any report that Highway Re-Route Movement leader Dr Wayne Kublalsingh had slapped a soldier as claimed by National Security Minister Jack Warner on Wednesday.
"Nobody reported to me yet. Up to this time, we haven't had any yet. We await the report," Frederick said.
He said Kublalsingh was detained by police officers on the scene "in his own interest. And so as not to perpetuate what was happening there, the police removed him from the scene".
Public relations officer of the Trinidad and Tobago Regiment, Warrant Officer Lester Hill, said Kublalsingh was not detained by soldiers, but by police officers.
Facebook images, however, show soldiers holding Kublalsingh and escorting him from the site.
Hill said: "Soldiers did not detain him. There were police officers there and what was happening, based on that were just assisting. But we did not detain him."
Hill said the soldiers did not take instructions from Warner, but from Chief of Defence Staff, Brigadier General Kenrick Maharaj, and Commanding Officer of the Regiment, Colonel Anthony Phillips-Spencer.
Meanwhile, the People's National Movement (PNM) also added its voice yesterday on the issue of Gibbs not being contacted by Warner.
In a media release, the party stated: "The People's National Movement is appalled and greatly disturbed over the revelations that the Commissioner of Police had no prior knowledge of the demolition of a camp of protesters in South Trinidad on Wednesday morning under the supervision of the Minister of National Security.
"The PNM strongly condemns the action of the Minister of National Security for usurping the authority of the Commissioner of Police. The minister's action confirms the party's worst fears that such dastardly action paves the way for Trinidad and Tobago to become a police state."
The release further stated the party supported the call made by its political leader, Dr Keith Rowley, for the Prime Minister to publicly confirm her government's commitment to the observation and respect for the independence of the Office of the Commissioner of Police in all manners of law enforcement operations and more generally, the rule of law.

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Re: Re-Route Movement Camp broken down

Postby *$kїđž!™ » June 29th, 2012, 7:41 am

Gibbs is ah waste...WTF...Jack hadda tell he nything for......for him to just nod his head...steups....Jack hadda get rid ah that waste ah time man and his deputy now!!..

First minister have balls so...!!

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*$kїđž!™ wrote:Gibbs is ah waste...WTF...Jack hadda tell he nything for......for him to just nod his head...steups....Jack hadda get rid ah that waste ah time man and his deputy now!!..

First minister have balls so...!!


Yeah usurp the separation of powers.

Heck why the need for a Judicial system, no warrant walk in anyone house, open yuh trap bullet to head. Kamla forkin around, call in the army and remove her from office bodily, drag her ass out i say.

Checks and balances? pssssssshhhhhhhhhhh

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Re: Re-Route Movement Camp broken down

Postby Habit7 » June 29th, 2012, 8:16 am

^^^Yuh eh hear de man want Flying Squad

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Postby rollingstock » June 29th, 2012, 8:18 am

^ A failed corrupt unit in the first place, buh heck is Jack right up his alley.

But i doubt that will be implemented........Kams eh giving up she choppas jus so!

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Postby Habit7 » June 29th, 2012, 8:25 am

rollingstock wrote:Kams eh giving up she choppas jus so!

I guess that was the main reason why SAUTT was closed

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Postby toyolink » June 29th, 2012, 9:23 am

This situation is very confusing to make a proper determination without full infor.
Assuming the protestors were "squatting" on state lands with the delibrate intent to fustrate the execution of works,what course of action should the state take to remove them.
I would hope that approval by the PM or passage of a bill in parliament are not mandatory requirements.
Certainly,taking this to the extreme,private citizens may have to inform the PM when evicting squatters.
According to the media the minister reported to the police the intent to remove the squatters and requested their presence -isn't this standard?
I also remember Mr Roget issuing something sounding like a vielded threat during labour day 'do' about the trade union movement/MSJ protecting the camp-site from any state action.

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Postby nervewrecker » June 29th, 2012, 9:30 am

lets add insuly to injury.

I spoke with Ghandi Village people, they welcome the highway, it requires atemple be destroyed but one will be re constructed. Here the best part now....they donno who de fcuk is those people opposing the highway for that area.

Interesting I must say.

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Re: Re-Route Movement Camp broken down

Postby Habit7 » June 29th, 2012, 9:34 am

nervewrecker wrote:I spoke with Ghandi Village people

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Postby eliteauto » June 29th, 2012, 9:43 am

RIPEBREDFRUIT wrote:handfull of local village idiots want to stop development- why does this seem to to be trinidads predominent suitation........................



Ent! reminds me of those clowns in the west who opposed the construction of the Gov't schools opposite Westmall, hope they build those soon

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Postby Mark! » June 29th, 2012, 9:46 am

Goon Squad up in this!

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Postby nervewrecker » June 29th, 2012, 9:47 am

Habit7 wrote:
nervewrecker wrote:I spoke with Ghandi Village people

Image


wrong pic, thats the unvealing of the playbook at fyzo.

A few seconds later the ooh's and ahhh's took place.

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Postby UML » June 29th, 2012, 12:59 pm

RIPEBREDFRUIT wrote:handfull of local village idiots want to stop development- why does this seem to to be trinidads predominent suitation........................


just copying what the farmers doing :|

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Re: Re-Route Movement Camp broken down

Postby InDeForest » June 29th, 2012, 1:48 pm

couple things:
A) jacks wants a flying squad
B) volney wants jury-less trials
too much potential for bacchanal there imo
Regarding the schools by westmall idea- that area is already overdeveloped, also there are almost a half a dozen massive apartment buildings govt has built at the mouth of diego martin, opposite the same school site, that haven't become occupied yet, when they do, the traffic in the area will be so much worse that it is now, why put another thousand students into the rush hours there as well?

Regarding the current highway extension, I will eat a scorpion pepper when everyone gets compensation payment in their hand.

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Postby tr1ad » June 29th, 2012, 1:59 pm

careful one of them read this and put up a temple brisk brisk eh

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Postby UML » June 29th, 2012, 7:26 pm

it is a publicity opportunity for the irrelevant in society............ramesh lawrence maharaj, basdeo panday, mikela panday, Roget & OWTU, COP, COP St Anns candidate Nalini Dial (imagine she calling jack crazy :lol: :lol:), COP Robert Mayers (straight out of Lapeyrouse), MSJ, etc

btw in addition to slapping an officer dr kublalsigh tried to drive his vehicle into the backhoe :| (if u watch the news coverage you will see a station wagon with hazard lights on parked in the mud)

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Postby brams112 » June 29th, 2012, 8:33 pm

Just saying,how much of these people protesting ever got caught in traffic when the gulf of paria get vex and just start to pelt water on the road in the mosquito creek? The deep south need this development,there are people who OWN land in the route want it,somehow i feel the people who making noise have nothing to do.Also dont these people know they can't carry anything when they are dead in a few years time?

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Re: Re-Route Movement Camp broken down

Postby *$kїđž!™ » June 30th, 2012, 8:15 am

rollingstock wrote:
*$kїđž!™ wrote:Gibbs is ah waste...WTF...Jack hadda tell he nything for......for him to just nod his head...steups....Jack hadda get rid ah that waste ah time man and his deputy now!!..

First minister have balls so...!!


Yeah usurp the separation of powers.

Heck why the need for a Judicial system, no warrant walk in anyone house, open yuh trap bullet to head. Kamla forkin around, call in the army and remove her from office bodily, drag her ass out i say.

Checks and balances? pssssssshhhhhhhhhhh


stock I know the white man is yuh boi eh....but he really serving no purpose at all.....warner maybe was like steups...I dont have to tell him nuthin...that big sheit hound....

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/No_ ... 20735.html


No breach in bypassing me, says Gibbs
By Jensen LaVende jensen.lavende@trinidadexpress.com
Story Created: Jun 29, 2012 at 10:55 PM ECT
Story Updated: Jun 29, 2012 at 10:55 PM ECT
COMMISSIONER of Police Dwayne Gibbs yesterday said Minister of National Security Jack Warner did not breach the Police Standing Orders by contacting Assistant Commissioner of Police (ACP) South Fitzroy Frederick, seeking assistance during demolition of the Highway Re-Route Movement's camp in Debe on Wednesday.
Speaking with members of the media following the launch of the Police Caravan, a mobile expo displaying different aspects of policing, at the Brian Lara Promenade in Port of Spain yesterday, Gibbs said the Police Standing Orders allows for Warner to do what he did.
"When you look at our command structure, of course, it all flows out of the Commissioner's office to the officers. We all have a level of authority that has been provided to them. There are ACPs in all our divisions, and they are instructed and have the authority to do the policing in those areas.
"We do have an Assistant Commissioner of Police who runs that division and is the point person for anything that goes on in the southern division, certainly, he responded to the request provided to him," Gibbs said.
Asked whether the chain of command was breached in that he was the one responsible to contact the ACP South, Gibbs said: "Again, we put out a news brief and talked about it, and that is as far as we will go at this point."
In the news release, it stated: "At no time was the Commissioner of Police apprised or consulted that there would be the removal of the Highway Protest camp."
Asked to describe his relationship with Warner, Gibbs said they do not always agree on everything, but they do agree they will be tackling crime together and have talked about different ideas and ways to go forward.
In response to Warner's speech calling for police to be more sociable with those they serve and engage in the community, Gibbs said he was in agreement as "the purpose, of course, is to provide not only professional policing but also to ensure what we are doing is to provide the best service for the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago."
Gibbs said despite reports by Warner that he will scrap the 21st Century Policing Initiative, Gibbs said, the Police Service will be going ahead with the initiative.
"In terms of some of the components which include the 21st Century Policing, we will be moving forward especially to ensure that the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago receive the best policing that they can get from the officers that we have. We have had many good results from that 21t Century Policing Initiative."

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Re: Re-Route Movement Camp broken down

Postby rollingstock » June 30th, 2012, 10:48 am

^ Gibbs ain't mih boi eh, as far as i'm concerned he's a stucked up idiot, Ewatski has actually proven himself to be a better administrator and on the whole more approachable.

As it stands i am in favor of the highway, but know a few persons who legitimately were being given an unfair deal, with that said i don't hold affiliation to any side.

The issue i have a problem with is the manner in which jack carried it out, if this is the way he will be operating, i see sad days ahead.

And wrt to that article, Gibbs knows where his bread is buttered, he was angry in the beginning but he ain't rocking no boat.

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