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De Dragon wrote:Redman wrote:@shogun....
My point was that the benefit of having armed citizens who are able and willing to respond to a mass shooting attempt...is already proven in the US.
I could care less who wrote the article,and whether he is an activist or not...there is a ton of fake news out there...you should know that before you get worked up.
As I posted above before you edited your last post...its 2019 and as such we need to adapt to the world as it is.
Also disproven in the case of Marjorie Stoneman where several armed law enforcement officers just outside sat with their thumbs up their arses while inside was level gunshots/deading.
Redman wrote:You dont agree with dealing with the world as it actually is?-The 'as it is' part is acknowledging and attacking the problem.That there are too many guns in the wrong hands. NOTHING is going to change that.
Redman wrote:Sure-been saying this for a long time. That said the bar cant be set in order to make it impossible, for a normal citizen to carry.
Ridiculous. I just don't think civilian gun ownership saturation is a solution and might actually exacerbate the problem.
More needs to be done. Good for the New Zealand Prime Minister for not politicizing the issue and immediately acting upon tightening gun laws.
rspann wrote:Are the qualifications for ownership too stringent in Trinidad and thus the ones that cannot get through are just not qualified ?because there are a lot of owners/ users ,and there are people who apply and get through without bribing.
Redman wrote:So what do you all think should we as a multi racial ethnic and religious society be doing here now today?
The NZ shooter was active for 17 odd minutes before NZPD arrives.
What do you all think is realistic for sweet TnT?
rspann wrote:Are the qualifications for ownership too stringent in Trinidad and thus the ones that cannot get through are just not qualified ?because there are a lot of owners/ users ,and there are people who apply and get through without bribing.
Redman wrote:rspann wrote:Are the qualifications for ownership too stringent in Trinidad and thus the ones that cannot get through are just not qualified ?because there are a lot of owners/ users ,and there are people who apply and get through without bribing.
The process for an FUL has little to do with the need desire or ABILITY to carry a fire arm.
The process for a FUEC has NOTHING to do with the ability to carry,use or not use a fire arm.
both processes are 100% irrelevant
16 cycles wrote:Can you practice on a gun range without a FUL or provisional?
Asking as i really unaware...
Redman wrote:The ranges will apply for a FUEC- Firearm User Employee Certificate for a member.
Once granted the person will be able to use the ranges firearms on the range with a range officer present.
Its an easy process-but can take some time.
I guess that equates to a provisional
16 cycles wrote:16 cycles wrote:Can you practice on a gun range without a FUL or provisional?
Asking as i really unaware...Redman wrote:The ranges will apply for a FUEC- Firearm User Employee Certificate for a member.
Once granted the person will be able to use the ranges firearms on the range with a range officer present.
Its an easy process-but can take some time.
I guess that equates to a provisional
From another thread - splicing in here as it may be useful as ppl try to make sense of the process /processes
88sins wrote:16 cycles wrote:16 cycles wrote:Can you practice on a gun range without a FUL or provisional?
Asking as i really unaware...Redman wrote:The ranges will apply for a FUEC- Firearm User Employee Certificate for a member.
Once granted the person will be able to use the ranges firearms on the range with a range officer present.
Its an easy process-but can take some time.
I guess that equates to a provisional
From another thread - splicing in here as it may be useful as ppl try to make sense of the process /processes
an association related FUEC does not equate to a provisional license, & the two are very different things.
Redman wrote:
how so?
The provisional is authorization from the CoP to train with a gun...at a named range and expires in 3 months or something so.
the FUEC at the range is given as a result of your membership at the range.
Both mean that you can only shoot here.
Functionally the same.
When last have you seen a mass first aiding resulting in several casualties and deaths that could have been stopped by a condom in the right hands?sMASH wrote:Same reason why u teach first aid and cpr, and give out condoms; Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
88sins wrote:Redman wrote:
how so?
The provisional is authorization from the CoP to train with a gun...at a named range and expires in 3 months or something so.
the FUEC at the range is given as a result of your membership at the range.
Both mean that you can only shoot here.
Functionally the same.
Functionally similar, in that they both allow you to discharge a firearm at a specific location, but that's where their similarities stop, because the the actual purposes of these licenses are not the same at all. One gets you valuable certification, the other gets you nothing
rspann wrote:Lancer1234 get through in a few weeks. Gary wukking.
Redman wrote:De Dragon wrote:Redman wrote:@shogun....
My point was that the benefit of having armed citizens who are able and willing to respond to a mass shooting attempt...is already proven in the US.
I could care less who wrote the article,and whether he is an activist or not...there is a ton of fake news out there...you should know that before you get worked up.
As I posted above before you edited your last post...its 2019 and as such we need to adapt to the world as it is.
Also disproven in the case of Marjorie Stoneman where several armed law enforcement officers just outside sat with their thumbs up their arses while inside was level gunshots/deading.
Google willing.
Redman wrote:Well Dragon...is it not patently obvious that the officers that you referenced in your response were not willing to respond?
rspann wrote:Bank records is a critical factor in Trinidad to get through. They need to see your banking trend to see if you routinely have large sums of cash.
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