BAIL FOR SHOOTING?

[jaggie]

TWO university students charged with shooting a man, causing him grievous bodily harm, have been placed on bail by the court.

University of Trinidad and Tobago (UTT) students Patrick Ouza, 18, and Marquise Marcano, 20, appeared in the San Fernando First Court on Thursday, facing the allegation that they shot Jameer Braithwaite last Sunday at TarThe two, of La Romaine, were represented by attorney Jason Jackson who asked for bail.

He said neither had matters before the court.

Jackson also said that Ouza claimed he was beaten by the police and was yet to be taken for medical attention.

Deputy Chief Magistrate Mark Wellington placed the friends on $45,000 bail and granted alternative cash bail of $30,000.

Jackson called for the prosecution to provide him with documents to assist in building his clients’ case.

The matter was adjourned to September 12.


Fellars, what am i missing here...bail for a shooting?

Is that a bailable offence?

[Morpheus]

Shouldn't be. Time to tighten up dem laws. But the darn overcrowding in jail woul only get worse if they jail every offender.

For me, gun possension should be a non-bailable offense far less for shooting someone

[jaggie]

So, after some research.....

Exceptions to Person Entitled to Bail
Part I
Circumstances in which Persons are not entitled to Bail


Where a person is charged with any of the following offences:
(a) murder;
(b) treason;
(c) piracy or hijacking;
(d) any offence for which death is the penalty fixed by law.


Part II
Circumstances in which Persons MAY BE entitled to Bail


(a) trafficking in narcotics or possession of narcotics for the purpose of trafficking;
(b) possessing and use of firearms or ammunition with intent to injure;
(c) possession of imitation firearms in pursuance of any criminal offence;
(d) rape;
(e) sexual intercourse with a female under fourteen;
(f) buggery;
(g) shooting or wounding with intent to do grievous bodily harm;
(h) robbery, robbery with aggravation, armed robbery;
(i) larceny of a motor vehicle;
(j) burglary and housebreaking;
(k) perverting or defeating the course of public justice;
(l) arson;
(m) [b]an attempt to commit any offence listed in this Part or in Part I[/b](n) receiving stolen goods.


So you attemt to and ent get thru.....you good for bail and come out to finish the job!

[hustla_ambition101]

Yes bail for shootings, that's why you alwayss hear when police corn them that they were well known or out on bail

[rollingstock]

Hahahhaaha and imagine possession of a firearm is still a Minor Offence.

[Morpheus]

Hahahhaaha and imagine possession of a firearm is still a Minor Offence.

Madness I tell you. Madness...

[1UZFE]

Hahahhaaha and imagine possession of a firearm is still a Minor Offence.

RS i tawt it had a 50k fine and some mths imprisonment with that. Please exemplify.

[rollingstock]

Hahahhaaha and imagine possession of a firearm is still a Minor Offence.

RS i tawt it had a 50k fine and some mths imprisonment with that. Please exemplify.

All offences are categorised by the nature into subsets, namely:-

Serious Crimes
Minor Crimes
Minor Offences
Traffic Offences

eg of serious crimes are murder, arson, wounding, larceny (over $2000) etc

Minor Crimes would be other crimes (not of a serious nature) eg Assault occasioning a wound, larceny (under $2000), etc

The distinction is a serious crime is any offence in which a person upon conviction may be sentenced to a period of imprisonment of over 2 years.


Think i got that correct, open to any clarification from others.

[Bizzare]

Hahahhaaha and imagine possession of a firearm is still a Minor Offence.

Possessing a firearm is as dangerous as having a knife, iron bar, cutlass, chainsaw, dildo, etc in your possession. None of those objects lawfully signal intent to carry out a criminal act and each can be used to kill or cause bodily harm. So whats the big deal surrounding firearms when compared to the objects mentioned above anyway? If having a firearm without a licence should be more than a Minor Offence, so should driving a car without a licence. btw, anyone should be able to purchase and carry firearms imo, but that's another topic.

[redmanjp]

well cars, knives etc. CAN be used as weapons, but having those things dont imply u intend to use them as such.

a firearm IS by nature a weapon and unless u have a licence then it most likely implies u up to no good by having it in your possession

[Morpheus]

^^Well said. Saved me some typing there.

[sMASH]

I would like to add ILLEGAL possession of a fire arm. One may still be able to possess a fire arm legally

[sMASH]

Also is there a distinction between consentual and non consentual buggery.

[Bizzare]

consensual*

how does a firearm in your possession imply that you're up to no good, and a knife doesn't? A firearm has many applications.

[hustla_ambition101]

Biz, quit nah

[Morpheus]

You could peel an orange with a gun?

[Bizzare]

http://www.enduringvision.com/editorial ... ore_02.php

[jaggie]

I can't remember, but didn't a bill / ammendment was supposed to passed to make these NON-BAILABLE?

[redmanjp]

Hahahhaaha and imagine possession of a firearm is still a Minor Offence.

RS i tawt it had a 50k fine and some mths imprisonment with that. Please exemplify.

All offences are categorised by the nature into subsets, namely:-

Serious Crimes
Minor Crimes
Minor Offences
Traffic Offences

eg of serious crimes are murder, arson, wounding, larceny (over $2000) etc

Minor Crimes would be other crimes (not of a serious nature) eg Assault occasioning a wound, larceny (under $2000), etc

The distinction is a serious crime is any offence in which a person upon conviction may be sentenced to a period of imprisonment of over 2 years.


Think i got that correct, open to any clarification from others.

so stealing an iPhone is a serious crime then? TTPS should be tracking down that iPhone using d GPS!

[redmanjp]

consensual*

how does a firearm in your possession imply that you're up to no good, and a knife doesn't? A firearm has many applications.

ILLEGAL posession

[redmanjp]

I can't remember, but didn't a bill / ammendment was supposed to passed to make these NON-BAILABLE?

i think its after 2 convictions- the 3rd offence would be non-bailable

it should be after 2 charges though

[Rallyfignis]

Wasn't kidnapping made a non-bailable offence? Or does that fall under hijacking?