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vapourone wrote:If they move to ban it we will launch tv ads . News conference . To gather public attention to support the product. They are forcing people to go back smoking
ECIGTT wrote:We need all suppliers of electronic cigarettes to come out to the meeting. Put all bull sheit aside. We all need to come together now and fight back because once the legislation is passed we cannot do anything about it. Lets fight for the rite to vape. I contacted Titan and he said he will send a representative of his company. We don/t need representatives we need the owners to come out.
FDA unveils new regulations on e-cigarettes
Hundreds of electronic cigarette brands will have to undergo federal review to stay on the market under new rules that have the potential to upend a multi-billion dollar industry attempting to position itself as an alternative to traditional cigarettes.
The Food and Drug Administration on Thursday released long-awaited rules that bring the burgeoning industry under federal oversight.
The changes will ban e-cigarette sales to people under 18 and require new health warnings. In a shift vigorously opposed by the industry, manufacturers must seek federal permission to continue marketing all e-cigarettes launched since 2007, making up the vast majority of the market.
Most companies will have to submit premarket applications that will undergo review to assess their impact on the "public health." Those that don't submit the required information or don't meet federal standards would have their products removed from the market.
E-cigarettes are battery-powered devices that turn nicotine into an inhalable liquid vapor. Though nicotine can be addictive, e-cigarettes lack the chemicals and tars of burning tobacco.
Yet the devices haven't been extensively studied and there's no scientific consensus on any potential benefits or harms from "vaping," including whether it leads young people to become regular smokers.
The FDA action comes five years after the agency first announced its intent to regulate e-cigarettes and more than two years after it floated its initial proposal.
Public health advocates applauded the news.
"Ending the tobacco epidemic is more urgent than ever, and can only happen if the FDA acts aggressively and broadly to protect all Americans from all tobacco products," said Harold Wimmer, president of the American Lung Association.
In a tweet, Sylvia Burwell, Secretary of Health and Human Services called the move a "historic step" to help "improve public health & protect future generations from the dangers of tobacco."
"[These] rules... help protect children and give adults the information they need to make informed decisions," she said in a video posted to Twitter.
The American Academy of Pediatrics praised the rules as "a welcomed starting point," but said the FDA didn't go far enough to protect children. "FDA passed up critical opportunities in this rule by failing to prohibit the sale of tobacco products coming in flavors like cotton candy, gummy bear and grape or to prevent marketing tactics that target children," the doctors' group said in a statement.
The new requirements are likely to set up a legal showdown with manufacturers, many who have warned that the costs of complying with FDA regulation could wipe out their industry.
The agency has stumbled before in its efforts to regulate the space. In 2010, a federal appeals court threw out the agency's plan to treat e-cigarettes as drug-delivery devices, rather than tobacco products. The ruling was seen as a win for manufacturers who opposed the stringent and expensive requirements of conducting pharmaceutical-style studies.
House Republicans are pushing industry-backed legislation that would prohibit the FDA from requiring retroactive safety reviews of e-cigarettes that are already on the market and exempt some premium and large cigars from those same regulations. E-cigarette products introduced in the future would still undergo the safety reviews.
Lawmakers on Capitol Hill have long enjoyed a close relationship with the tobacco industry, which has already given more than $1.8 million to members of Congress this election cycle, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
The FDA first gained authority to regulate some aspects of cigarettes and other traditional tobacco products under a 2009 law. But since e-cigarettes do not actually contain tobacco, they were not covered by the original law.
In April 2014, the FDA first proposed bringing e-cigarettes and other nontraditional tobacco products under its authority, including cigars, hookahs, nicotine gels and pipe tobacco. The agency was expected to finalize that proposal last June, but the deadline slipped for months due to industry resistance.
Some smokers like e-cigarettes because the nicotine-infused vapor looks like smoke but doesn't contain the tar or odor of regular cigarettes. They are sometimes promoted as a way to help smokers quit or cut down on tobacco. However, there's not much scientific evidence showing e-cigarettes help smokers quit or smoke less, and it's unclear how safe they are.
E-cigarettes sales grew to an estimated $3.5 billion in 2015, according to Wells Fargo. After ballooning in over several years, sales have recently begun to slow due to negative publicity and questions about safety. Retail sales are dominated by a handful of traditional tobacco companies, including Reynold's American's Vuse and Imperial Tobacco's blu brands. Those products are sold nationwide at convenience stores and gas stations.
Hundreds of smaller companies sell more specialized products -- often with refillable "tanks" and customized flavors -- at vape shops and over the Internet. That space alone may be worth $2 billion in sales, according to estimates, though precise figures are not available.
It is hilarious that they would ban vaping for those reasons but not ban cigarettes. I think we know it's the businesses that are pushing this and it's about profits and not actually about health.Yeo wrote:http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fda-e-cigarettes-new-regulations/
vapourone wrote:If they do ban it we will try an online petition . Hope duane post it as a global if this happen a
I vape from time to time, last time I vaped was last week some time, so I'm not a serious vaper / smoker per se. I can do without it. I also mostly do 0% nic.ECIGTT wrote:Well my 2 cents on this is if Trini tuner supporting the e-cig industry they would help. I don't believe tuner is that money hungry for an ecig supplier to pay to get a sticky to help save the industry.. Duane do you vape? if so support us and lets try to save the industry.
I made a nice suggestion and allyuh fack it up lol.... I understand triad/duane point as well but as a user i need to disagree harshly regardless the business point of view many tuners who aren't big boys/suppliers don't have an option to voice their opinion the users after all are the ones who puts money in suppliers pocket and if there's some sort of method to save this industry the word should be spread on a mass scale cause in all it stopped a lot of people from smoking cigarettes. Not saying you should direct people directly to a suppliers website/fb but something need to be done to fight back is all we ask and i think some users on here would agree... Ecig/Ecigar :p but since you both wanna take my suggestion a bit don't run away now. What if we do get a petition going? Each person who signs get a sample box combine of each supplier ? Saving allyuh ass as well or host some little get together with freebies u know 
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Freebies for signing is a good idea!
ECIGTT wrote:so you mean to say if 100,000 persons sign i have to give away 100,000 bottles. no eh, that not feasible to me what about you vapor one?
but it still shows u willing to give back not so? Anyhow any updates on the meeting? Like i keep hearing about meeting nothing much being said in detail can you record it and post don't need to bring out no camera in the people face and record take a simple voice recording or something But as i said you guys need to do something as well if it sounds like i'm trying to bankrupt allyuh that ain't true but atleast you did something and gain support I mean you was in all favor for duane to announce it but maybe he can if you do your part as well Return to “Ole talk and more Ole talk”
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