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Wikipedia wrote:The Hominidae (/hɒˈmɪnɨdiː/; also known as great apes) form a taxonomic family of primates, including four extant genera:
chimpanzees (Pan) – 2 species
gorillas (Gorilla) – 2 species
humans (Homo) – 1 species
orangutans (Pongo) – 2 species.
Apes (Hominoidea) are a branch of Old World tailless anthropoid catarrhine primates native to Africa and Southeast Asia and distinguished by a wide degree of freedom at the shoulder joint indicating the influence of brachiation. There are two main branches, the gibbons, or lesser apes, and another branch including hominids and other great apes.
Lesser apes (Hylobatidae) include four genera and sixteen species of gibbon, including the lar gibbon, and the siamang, all native to Asia. They are highly arboreal and bipedal on the ground. They have lighter bodies and smaller social groups than great apes.
The Hominidae include orangutans, gorillas, chimpanzees, bonobos and humans. Alternatively, the family are collectively described as the great apes
ismithx wrote:first of all, the idea that life just appeared on its own is hardly credible, secondly if evolution and life appearing all on its own is true how do you explain conciousness?
3stagevtec wrote:ismithx wrote:first of all, the idea that life just appeared on its own is hardly credible, secondly if evolution and life appearing all on its own is true how do you explain conciousness?
Why is it hardly credible? because YOU cannot understand it? Out of the billions of planets in the universe, ours just happened to have all the right ingredients for life to start. I'm pretty sure it will happen somewhere else in the universe also..
Evolution is a slow change in the biology of life over generations, it has nothing to do with where life came from.
Our brains learnt and adapted over time. Our self awareness came about through the need to survive. Having a consciousness is nothing extraordinary IMO. Don't forget there are other animals out there who can also think and reason with a high degree of accuracy. Some of them are also self aware!
Advent wrote:bro you take d bait to explain these religious people would never get it, if you could reason with the religious there wont be any religious.
3stagevtec wrote:ismithx wrote:first of all, the idea that life just appeared on its own is hardly credible, secondly if evolution and life appearing all on its own is true how do you explain conciousness?
Why is it hardly credible? because YOU cannot understand it? Out of the billions of planets in the universe, ours just happened to have all the right ingredients for life to start. I'm pretty sure it will happen somewhere else in the universe also..
Evolution is a slow change in the biology of life over generations, it has nothing to do with where life came from.
Our brains learnt and adapted over time. Our self awareness came about through the need to survive. Having a consciousness is nothing extraordinary IMO. Don't forget there are other animals out there who can also think and reason with a high degree of accuracy. Some of them are also self aware!
ismithx wrote:3stagevtec wrote:ismithx wrote:first of all, the idea that life just appeared on its own is hardly credible, secondly if evolution and life appearing all on its own is true how do you explain conciousness?
Why is it hardly credible? because YOU cannot understand it? Out of the billions of planets in the universe, ours just happened to have all the right ingredients for life to start. I'm pretty sure it will happen somewhere else in the universe also..
Evolution is a slow change in the biology of life over generations, it has nothing to do with where life came from.
Our brains learnt and adapted over time. Our self awareness came about through the need to survive. Having a consciousness is nothing extraordinary IMO. Don't forget there are other animals out there who can also think and reason with a high degree of accuracy. Some of them are also self aware!
you misunderstand me. i have an understanding of this explanation for the formation of life, seems very unlikely. If life came about this way, then shouldn't we be able to create living organisms by manually assembling at least a one-celled organism?
my point is not about self-awareness, it is about conciousness. we can build computer programs and robots that respond to situations automatically, but are they concious? When I say conciousness, I mean the perspective by which you see and perceive other stimuli. For this, you should refer to the mind-body problem, which has long been a debated issue in psychology. My personal opinion is that the mind and body are actually separate, because if there was only the body (brain), then we wouldn't have a conciousness. In this case, the most sensible theory for me is the belief that we were created as described in the Bible. I'm just being a straight-up logical person here, I like to believe in something that makes sense.
Advent wrote:ismithx wrote:3stagevtec wrote:ismithx wrote:first of all, the idea that life just appeared on its own is hardly credible, secondly if evolution and life appearing all on its own is true how do you explain conciousness?
Why is it hardly credible? because YOU cannot understand it? Out of the billions of planets in the universe, ours just happened to have all the right ingredients for life to start. I'm pretty sure it will happen somewhere else in the universe also..
Evolution is a slow change in the biology of life over generations, it has nothing to do with where life came from.
Our brains learnt and adapted over time. Our self awareness came about through the need to survive. Having a consciousness is nothing extraordinary IMO. Don't forget there are other animals out there who can also think and reason with a high degree of accuracy. Some of them are also self aware!
you misunderstand me. i have an understanding of this explanation for the formation of life, seems very unlikely. If life came about this way, then shouldn't we be able to create living organisms by manually assembling at least a one-celled organism?
my point is not about self-awareness, it is about conciousness. we can build computer programs and robots that respond to situations automatically, but are they concious? When I say conciousness, I mean the perspective by which you see and perceive other stimuli. For this, you should refer to the mind-body problem, which has long been a debated issue in psychology. My personal opinion is that the mind and body are actually separate, because if there was only the body (brain), then we wouldn't have a conciousness. In this case, the most sensible theory for me is the belief that we were created as described in the Bible. I'm just being a straight-up logical person here, I like to believe in something that makes sense.
ad hominem, no true scottsman fallacy, straw man , Argument from ignorance,
Argument from (personal) incredulity, Circular reasoning, but most of all Equivocation!
bluefete wrote:This is the utter garbage that so many people believe. It comes straight out from the mouth of your great hero and atheist - Richard Dawkins.
ismithx wrote:my point is not about self-awareness, it is about conciousness. we can build computer programs and robots that respond to situations automatically, but are they concious? When I say conciousness, I mean the perspective by which you see and perceive other stimuli. For this, you should refer to the mind-body problem, which has long been a debated issue in psychology. My personal opinion is that the mind and body are actually separate, because if there was only the body (brain), then we wouldn't have a conciousness. In this case, the most sensible theory for me is the belief that we were created as described in the Bible. I'm just being a straight-up logical person here, I like to believe in something that makes sense.
ismithx wrote:first of all, the idea that life just appeared on its own is hardly credible
ismithx wrote:you misunderstand me. i have an understanding of this explanation for the formation of life, seems very unlikely.
ismithx wrote:my point is not about self-awareness, it is about conciousness. ... My personal opinion is that the mind and body are actually separate, because if there was only the body (brain), then we wouldn't have a conciousness. In this case, the most sensible theory for me is the belief that we were created as described in the Bible. I'm just being a straight-up logical person here, I like to believe in something that makes sense.
ismithx wrote:Advent wrote:ismithx wrote:3stagevtec wrote:ismithx wrote:first of all, the idea that life just appeared on its own is hardly credible, secondly if evolution and life appearing all on its own is true how do you explain conciousness?
Why is it hardly credible? because YOU cannot understand it? Out of the billions of planets in the universe, ours just happened to have all the right ingredients for life to start. I'm pretty sure it will happen somewhere else in the universe also..
Evolution is a slow change in the biology of life over generations, it has nothing to do with where life came from.
Our brains learnt and adapted over time. Our self awareness came about through the need to survive. Having a consciousness is nothing extraordinary IMO. Don't forget there are other animals out there who can also think and reason with a high degree of accuracy. Some of them are also self aware!
you misunderstand me. i have an understanding of this explanation for the formation of life, seems very unlikely. If life came about this way, then shouldn't we be able to create living organisms by manually assembling at least a one-celled organism?
my point is not about self-awareness, it is about conciousness. we can build computer programs and robots that respond to situations automatically, but are they concious? When I say conciousness, I mean the perspective by which you see and perceive other stimuli. For this, you should refer to the mind-body problem, which has long been a debated issue in psychology. My personal opinion is that the mind and body are actually separate, because if there was only the body (brain), then we wouldn't have a conciousness. In this case, the most sensible theory for me is the belief that we were created as described in the Bible. I'm just being a straight-up logical person here, I like to believe in something that makes sense.
ad hominem, no true scottsman fallacy, straw man , Argument from ignorance,
Argument from (personal) incredulity, Circular reasoning, but most of all Equivocation!
and a good day to you sir
why is it that people always beat up so when they can't take a lil debate? if you believe so much in evolution and such then convince me!
A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method, and repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation.
Slartibartfast wrote:Now I have a question for you. If the body and mind are truly separate (the body can exist without the mind... like a dead body) can the mind exist without the body?
lolwutEFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:well considering Evolution is a proven fact as 2+2 = 4 is a proven fact then yes we are African Apes.
Why do you think that when someone makes a video on youtube and they claim god is real and evolution is false why does that video then have more down votes and reports than Justin Bieber videos?
Because denying fact and evidence based on false beliefs is a very wicked thing to do.
Also Dawkins already said science cannot prove that god isn't real nor does science care if god is real or not what science cares about is the truth.
Offcourse we have free will so we can choose to believe 2+2= 17
So is 2+2= 17 a reasonable answer in today's modern world? I say NO
you went so far down that rabbit holeEFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:well considering Evolution is a proven fact as 2+2 = 4 is a proven fact then yes we are African Apes.
Why do you think that when someone makes a video on youtube and they claim god is real and evolution is false why does that video then have more down votes and reports than Justin Bieber videos?
Because denying fact and evidence based on false beliefs is a very wicked thing to do.
Also Dawkins already said science cannot prove that god isn't real nor does science care if god is real or not what science cares about is the truth.
Offcourse we have free will so we can choose to believe 2+2= 17
So is 2+2= 17 a reasonable answer in today's modern world? I say NO