All Things US Politics Related: Trump indicted.

[Kewell35]

US news is so polarised right now it's difficult to get an unbiased news report

It's better to get it from a variety of different sources...I find DW News, France24 and Al Jazeera (surprisingly) are the least biased....tends to give you news without a spin.

It really don't make sense to watch things like CNN, Fox News etc anymore.

[MaxPower]

Allyuh go ahead and laugh at Trumpy.

He is an ass, but always a step ahead.

Read it again and see if he's a "step ahead" after the ruling

Hmmm

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Trump says path to citizenship for DACA 'Dreamers' in the works

The US Supreme Court last month dealt a setback to Trump's hardline immigration policies, blocking his bid to end DACA.

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US President Donald Trump claimed on Friday that he will sign an executive order on immigration in the next few weeks with a road to citizenship for migrants who are in the United States illegally but arrived in the country as children.

In an interview with Spanish-language TV network Telemundo, Trump said one aspect of the measure would involve Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA), the programme that protects hundreds of thousands of such immigrants - often called "Dreamers" - from deportation.


"I'm going to do a big executive order ... And I'm going to make DACA a part of it," Trump said. "We're going to have a road to citizenship."

A White House spokesman later said any orders by the president will not include amnesty for migrants who are in the US illegally but arrived in the country as children.

"This does not include amnesty," White House spokesman Judd Deere said in a statement.

The US Supreme Court last month dealt a major setback to Trump's hardline immigration policies, blocking his bid to end DACA, which was created in 2012 by his Democratic predecessor, Barack Obama.



https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/07/ ... 29308.html

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Trump spares ex-adviser Roger Stone from prison

11 July 2020


US President Donald Trump has commuted the prison sentence of his longtime ally and former adviser Roger Stone.

The move - sparing Stone from jail but not a pardon - came just after a court denied Stone's request to delay the start date of his 40-month prison term.

He was convicted of lying to Congress, obstruction and witness tampering.

Stone was the sixth Trump aide found guilty on charges linked to a justice department probe that alleged Russia tried to boost the Trump 2016 campaign.

The 67-year-old had been due to report to a federal prison in Jesup, Georgia, next Tuesday.

What did the president say?

The White House said in a statement: "Roger Stone is a victim of the Russia Hoax that the Left and its allies in the media perpetuated for years in an attempt to undermine the Trump Presidency."

It said that Department of Justice prosecutors under special counsel Robert Mueller only charged Stone out of frustration after failing to prove the "fantasy" that the Trump campaign had colluded with the Kremlin.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53371756

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Trump spares ex-adviser Roger Stone from prison

11 July 2020


US President Donald Trump has commuted the prison sentence of his longtime ally and former adviser Roger Stone.

The move - sparing Stone from jail but not a pardon - came just after a court denied Stone's request to delay the start date of his 40-month prison term.

He was convicted of lying to Congress, obstruction and witness tampering.

Stone was the sixth Trump aide found guilty on charges linked to a justice department probe that alleged Russia tried to boost the Trump 2016 campaign.

The 67-year-old had been due to report to a federal prison in Jesup, Georgia, next Tuesday.

What did the president say?

The White House said in a statement: "Roger Stone is a victim of the Russia Hoax that the Left and its allies in the media perpetuated for years in an attempt to undermine the Trump Presidency."

It said that Department of Justice prosecutors under special counsel Robert Mueller only charged Stone out of frustration after failing to prove the "fantasy" that the Trump campaign had colluded with the Kremlin.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53371756

Apparently Trump cannot be prosecuted while he’s President. A sitting president can’t be charged.

https://www.vox.com/2019/5/29/18644304/ ... nstitution

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US Citizens are now blocked from entering most counties in the world. Only the countries marked in green will allow Americans while others won’t allow Americans at all. A handful are cautious and require a 14 day quarantine when Americans land


It’s because America is the only country with a self inflicted second wave


“Trump did what he said. He built a wall around America and made the world pay for it. He just never told Americans that they’d be stuck inside.”

https://medium.com/@indica/the-plague-s ... b20678a80e

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Apparently Trump cannot be prosecuted while he’s President. A sitting president can’t be charged.

https://www.vox.com/2019/5/29/18644304/ ... nstitution

That is not entirely true. There is a 1973 DOJ policy written by the US Office of Legal Council that precludes the federal prosecution of a sitting US president. Therefore, the US Executive branch's Department of Justice cannot prosecute the president that appointed the DOJ leadership according to the experts appointed by the Office of Legal Council that were appointed by that same president.

The position was memorialized in 1973, 2000 and 2019 (by the Mueller report) by the DOJs of the only presidents in modern history to face impeachment and federal indictment.

It is important to note that all US federal precedent indicates that "no person is above the law", there is no mention of indictment for state crimes and the US Constitution is completely silent on the matter.

It is more likely that the framers of the Constitution expected impeachment as a precursor to further indictment and prosecution.

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Article I, Section 3 adds with respect to an official who has been removed through impeachment and conviction is that such an official cannot invoke the Senate conviction as a bar to subsequent criminal prosecution. That such an official “shall nevertheless be liable” to the criminal process says only that he shall “remain” liable to that process—just as he would have been prior to removal. In other words, the impeachment process doesn’t serve as a crime-laundering device.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/yes-constit ... -president

[redmanjp]

Trump just announced that all schools must reopen and if they refuse he will sign an executive order forcing them to reopen.

So looks like Trinis gonna remain in the US

reopen NOW in July with covid raging in some states or after summer vacation?

[MaxPower]

Trump just announced that all schools must reopen and if they refuse he will sign an executive order forcing them to reopen.

So looks like Trinis gonna remain in the US

reopen NOW in July with covid raging in some states or after summer vacation?

Why not?

Anti-Trumps not saying sheit when they galavanting all over the place carelessly.....people are being tracked through GPS and cell phones etc and shown to be commuting more than ever....:they lucky the Govt didnt call a SOE to keep their asses home to avoid these rampant increases in cases.

But yeh, kick a fuss when Trumpy wants schools to open.

Open every damn thing

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Why not?

Anti-Trumps not saying sheit when they galavanting all over the place carelessly.....people are being tracked through GPS and cell phones etc and shown to be commuting more than ever....:they lucky the Govt didnt call a SOE to keep their asses home to avoid these rampant increases in cases.

But yeh, kick a fuss when Trumpy wants schools to open.

Open every damn thing

You are incorrect and misstating the facts. Again.

Mobility and social distancing in the USA is not up. Mobility and social distancincing has decreased but is increasing relative to the time of the issuance of stay at home orders.

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[maj. tom]

You must always post the corresponding FOX news report so you can see just how divided the USA is by its own population's stupidity.

[Arcmanov]

Who would have thought...that in 2020 America would become an actual sh1thole country?

'Everything is fine'.

[pugboy]

ent, icu beds in hospital beds hitting max now and death toll picking up
things better get fine in next couple weeks or we will see the refridgerated trucks on streets

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ent, icu beds in hospital beds hitting max now and death toll picking up
things better get fine in next couple weeks or we will see the refridgerated trucks on streets

Daily deaths are expected to rise.

ICU beds are at capacity in some hotspots and rural areas but not in others.

edit: apparently the refridgerated trucks are being used in some cities already.

[matr1x]

The situation is blown out of proportion.


In the world the fatality rate was 4.5% of total cases. Nothing much to beat up over.

[shogun]

Wisconsin Republican Rep. Glenn Grothman Coughs Uncontrollably at Trump Mask-Optional Event



^Gotta love these folk.

Sacha Baron Cohen at it again.

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Republicans / Conservatives make up 99.9% of Flat Earthers and conspiracy theorist retards.

Let that statistical fact sink in for a second.

This doesn't mean Libtards are allowed to get away with their retarded Anti Gun logic and defunding the police tho, currently in democrat run cities that are for getting rid of the police, Crime has skyrocketed pass 200% as of today. The same retards have yet to tell me why Trinidad a country where guns are outright banned for any and everybody has one of the highest gun violence on the planet.

For some odd reason liberal logic can never answer these incredibly simple questions.

[redmanjp]

The situation is blown out of proportion.


In the world the fatality rate was 4.5% of total cases. Nothing much to beat up over.

that's 40x that of the flu which is 0.1%- not much to beat up over? 1600 covid deaths vs the 41 h1n1 deaths would have occurred in little T&T if we didn't shut down! OH and that just deaths- 10 times that would have needed to be hospitalized- that's 16000! where we getting that many beds from? even if they on d ground what about ventilators?

[matr1x]

A pandemic is usually bad, but it's not the apocalypse people were expecting. Masks on and you will be fine

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A pandemic is usually bad, but it's not the apocalypse people were expecting. Masks on and you will be fine

The 2009 H1N1 pandemic lasted 19 months with 18,500 confirmed deaths (65,000 estimated).

The Covid-19 is in its seventh month with 572,000 confirmed deaths. The expected death toll is 2M to 7M.

Some will be fine, some will not.

[MaxPower]

Why not?

Anti-Trumps not saying sheit when they galavanting all over the place carelessly.....people are being tracked through GPS and cell phones etc and shown to be commuting more than ever....:they lucky the Govt didnt call a SOE to keep their asses home to avoid these rampant increases in cases.

But yeh, kick a fuss when Trumpy wants schools to open.

Open every damn thing

You are incorrect and misstating the facts. Again.

Mobility and social distancing in the USA is not up. Mobility and social distancincing has decreased but is increasing relative to the time of the issuance of stay at home orders.

We still in a pandemic right? You want me to spell it out by saying people are commuting more than ever IN a pandemic?

Stop trying to act smart by your copying and pasting links and get out of that tunnel thinking you have.

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Why not?

Anti-Trumps not saying sheit when they galavanting all over the place carelessly.....people are being tracked through GPS and cell phones etc and shown to be commuting more than ever....:they lucky the Govt didnt call a SOE to keep their asses home to avoid these rampant increases in cases.

But yeh, kick a fuss when Trumpy wants schools to open.

Open every damn thing

You are incorrect and misstating the facts. Again.

Mobility and social distancing in the USA is not up. Mobility and social distancincing has decreased but is increasing relative to the time of the issuance of stay at home orders.

We still in a pandemic right? You want me to spell it out by saying people are commuting more than ever IN a pandemic?

Stop trying to act smart by your copying and pasting links and get out of that tunnel thinking you have.

What you wrote was incorrect and a misstatement of fact. Period.

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Trump's demand that schools fully reopen spurned by big districts

The Los Angeles and San Diego districts said they'll start the year with distance learning.

The Los Angeles and San Diego school districts announced Monday they will start the upcoming school year with full distance learning. New York City schools will offer a mix of in-person classes and online learning. In suburban D.C., Maryland's largest district is proposing to start the year with virtual learning. Other districts are considering just two or three days a week in the classroom, with kids continuing to learn from home the rest of the time.

Florida's Miami-Dade County Public Schools — touted as a model by Education Secretary Betsy DeVos for its comprehensive reopening plan — is offering up to five days of in-person learning, along with an online option. But the superintendent now is casting doubt on the possibility of kids returning to classrooms on the first day of school if the city remains the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak, though Florida’s new reopening plan orders the state’s public schools to reopen in August for at least five days per week for all students.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/1 ... cts-360106

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2020 President: Consensus Electoral Map

As of July 14, 2020

This map aggregates the ratings of ten organizations (more to be added as they become available) to come up with a consensus forecast for the 2020 presidential election. 

This is not a map based on current polling, but rather a look ahead to November.  We do have a polling map; the two should converge as the election nears and forecasters/models place more weight on the polls.

Use this map as a starting point to create and share your own 2020 electoral map forecast.

July 14: Indiana, Montana, South Carolina move from Safe to Likely Republican.

https://www.270towin.com/maps/consensus ... p-forecast

[matr1x]

If the Democrats win......who want to be that covid will just....disappear

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Jeff Sessions Is Projected To Lose Comeback Bid For Alabama Senate Seat

July 14, 20209:18 PM ET


Vasha Hunt/AP

Jeff Sessions will not regain his old Alabama U.S. Senate seat this year.

The former U.S. attorney general has lost to Tommy Tuberville, a first-time political candidate and former college football coach, in the state's Republican runoff election for the seat, The Associated Press projects.

Tuberville — who was endorsed by President Trump in the GOP matchup — edged ahead of Sessions in Alabama's state primary in March but failed to secure a majority of the vote, setting up the runoff on Tuesday. The former Auburn University football coach will now face Democratic incumbent Sen. Doug Jones in November.


https://www.npr.org/2020/07/14/89078276 ... enate-seat

[The_Honourable]

If the Democrats win......who want to be that covid will just....disappear

100%

As november nears, 2nd wave.

[dredman1]

Coronavirus hospital data will now be sent to Trump administration instead of CDC

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/14/poli ... index.html

Washington (CNN)Hospital data on coronavirus patients will now be rerouted to the Trump administration instead of first being sent to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the Department of Health and Human Services confirmed to CNN on Tuesday.
The move could make data less transparent to the public at a time when the administration is downplaying the spread of the pandemic, and threatens to undermine public confidence that medical data is being presented free of political interference.
Michael Caputo, the assistant secretary for public affairs at the department, confirmed the change first reported by The New York Times earlier in the day, saying in a statement that the "new faster and complete data system is what our nation needs to defeat the coronavirus and the CDC, an operating division of HHS, will certainly participate in this streamlined all-of-government response. They will simply no longer control it."

"The CDC's old hospital data gathering operation once worked well monitoring hospital information across the country, but it's an inadequate system today," Caputo said in the statement.
The Times said hospitals are to begin reporting the data to HHS on Wednesday, noting also that the "database that will receive new information is not open to the public, which could affect the work of scores of researchers, modelers and health officials who rely on C.D.C. data to make projections and crucial decisions."
Former CDC directors slam Trump administration for 'sowing confusion' amid pandemic
Former CDC directors slam Trump administration for 'sowing confusion' amid pandemic
CNN Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta said the change is "going to lead to more opaqueness" about coronavirus data.
"What logic does this have, other than to take away the data from the epidemiologists that are the best in the world at looking at this data, making sense of it, translating it for people, versus giving it to HHS," he asked on CNN's "New Day" Wednesday morning.
Former CDC acting director Dr. Richard Besser on Wednesday said rerouting hospital data is a "step backwards" for the country's coronavirus response.
"It's another example of CDC being sidelined. Not only should the data be coming to CDC, but CDC should be talking to the public through the media every day," Besser told Gupta in an interview.
He worried that the data going directly to HHS could "be further politicized, and that's the last thing you want."
"One of the nice things about CDC being in Atlanta -- being away from Washington -- is that we're able to avoid a lot of political pressure that you get in when you're in DC," he said.
Besser appeared to agree with Caputo that systems needed to be modernized, but he added, "the answer to this isn't bypassing CDC; it's working to ensure that the flow is going faster, making sure that they're getting the right data."
The Trump administration continues to grapple with the coronavirus pandemic -- which has already claimed the lives of more than 136,000 Americans -- in moves that are increasingly being seen as political.
On Tuesday, four former CDC directors blasted the administration's efforts to disregard and politicize guidelines from the agency in a scathing Washington Post op-ed.
The four former CDC officials warned against what they called a "tragic indictment" of the CDC's efforts as President Donald Trump and top coronavirus task force officials seek to reopen the nation's schools.
Trump has said he will "pressure" governors to reopen schools, despite internal documents from the CDC separately obtained by the Times warning that reopening K-12 schools and universities would be the "highest risk" for the spread of the deadly virus.

"Unfortunately, their sound science is being challenged with partisan potshots, sowing confusion and mistrust at a time when the American people need leadership, expertise and clarity. These efforts have even fueled a backlash against public health officials across the country: Public servants have been harassed, threatened and forced to resign when we need them most. This is unconscionable and dangerous," the former CDC officials wrote.
Public health experts, they said: "Face two opponents: covid-19, but also political leaders and others attempting to undermine" the CDC.

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The idea behind that is to downplay the Covid 19 seriousness so they can have herd immunity.

Trump plans to sacrifice about 6 million people to accomplish herd immunity.

America is a place that hates old people they see them as being in the way and being worthless or someone they could scam, a lot of people will support Trump on the murder of 6 million people.

Then they could really call him Hitler, I think this is Trump and the GOP's equivalent of the Nazi's final solution for the killing of 6 million Jews. Kill about 6 million Americans for the sake of the Dow Jones, young people are in on this also. Notice as soon as Covid lockdown ended they entered into the donkey wine phase?

Biden isn't too far off though, he is also gonna sacrifice a few million for the Dow Jones watch and see if he wins suddenly Covid will disappear from the media. Biden also likes young people, as in very very very very young

Have a good look at the man who the libtards picked over Bernie Sanders. Heaven forbid Sanders offers people free health care, ooh the horror.