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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby The_Honourable » May 7th, 2019, 4:05 pm

Special Counsel Robert Mueller to testify in congress tentatively May 15th.

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » May 7th, 2019, 7:58 pm

LMFAO I am surprised that Joe Biden has more support from African Americans than anyother candidate. This is the same man who supports and pushes Laws that punishes Black people more than anyother race in the US.
And we have not yet even started to talk about his perverted creepy behavior with him sniffing under aged girls and kissing them without their consent.

You can literally see the devil in this man, and he is somehow the front runner of the Dems? This man is about as left wing as George Bush was. If Libtards think Trump bad wait till you see this man in action he is the definition of scum. He is the establishment in everyway shape or form. He will NEVER support free healthcare.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby De Dragon » May 7th, 2019, 10:36 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:LMFAO I am surprised that Joe Biden has more support from African Americans than anyother candidate. This is the same man who supports and pushes Laws that punishes Black people more than anyother race in the US.
And we have not yet even started to talk about his perverted creepy behavior with him sniffing under aged girls and kissing them without their consent.

You can literally see the devil in this man, and he is somehow the front runner of the Dems? This man is about as left wing as George Bush was. If Libtards think Trump bad wait till you see this man in action he is the definition of scum. He is the establishment in everyway shape or form. He will NEVER support free healthcare.

Another view from Trump's colon :roll: as if Orange Cancer is not the most detestable human being to ever occupy the Oval Office.
By the way, why do you keep spelling any other as one word? :?

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » May 8th, 2019, 5:03 pm

^ Ok so you support a pedophile creep over an orange pervert, good to know that this is where libtards are today.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby De Dragon » May 8th, 2019, 10:11 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:^ Ok so you support a pedophile creep over an orange pervert, good to know that this is where libtards are today.

For the millionth time greasy head, you are NOT, NOT, NOT a member of the Republican Party, nor am I a member of the Democratic Party.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby sMASH » May 8th, 2019, 10:18 pm

^^^ :lol: :lol: :lol:

goddam gropey joe....

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » May 9th, 2019, 11:57 am

sMASH wrote:^^^ :lol: :lol: :lol:

goddam gropey joe....


This man is such a creep even Obama refused to endorse him ROFL

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby sMASH » May 9th, 2019, 12:16 pm

yeah, buh still,, that is not we elections,,,, u should not get vicarious chess bun over dem ting, eh.

but, dem and rep, is like chelsea and manu to me.. lol. trying to push biden as a striker... he dont strike, he just gropes.

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sMASH wrote:yeah, buh still,, that is not we elections,,,, u should not get vicarious chess bun over dem ting, eh.

but, dem and rep, is like chelsea and manu to me.. lol. trying to push biden as a striker... he dont strike, he just gropes.


Outside of censorship in movies and video games that are ruined by Feminism and SJWs, I could care less about US politics. However the censorship in games like Mortal Kombat 11 where Female Skin is bad but murder is fine, because Ed Boon is as he claims to be "WOKE" is an extension of the SJW / Feminist culture.

And it doesn't stop there, the censorship is going to be HUGE in Playstation 5 according to Sony. Because they want to appease the new age of WOKE idiots they already implemented policies to stop games being sold on their platform unless it meets strict censorship controls.

This is very concerning to millions of people who have literally NOTHING to do with America but are going to be punished regardless. The WOKE ret@rded culture of the American Left is having a ripple effect on everything worldwide. Then there is the Facebook and Google along with other Tech Giants who wants to eliminate Free Speech and push Left Wing Propaganda and the dangerous part is they have the power to do just that.

This is why I am very happy to see Trump become President, it exposes all the major ret@rds in society who get triggered over nothing. We must make sure the left loses the culture war at any cost, it doesn't matter if its one post from a random person from Trinidad or from China. Every bit of support to fight back against the Establishment is a necessity.

Just look at De Dragon he has gone full WOKE SJW and peddles left wing propaganda daily on Tuner.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby The_Honourable » May 9th, 2019, 6:14 pm

Just for laughs


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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby shogun » May 9th, 2019, 10:35 pm

Kavanaugh gets a pass, Trump boasting about sexual abuse by multiple women and bragging about grabbing females by the privates gets nothing, but Biden is the predator. Nothing like the logic on here. :lol:

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby shogun » May 9th, 2019, 10:37 pm

North Korea launches two short-range missiles, at same time as U.S. ICBM test

TOKYO — North Korea launched two short-range missiles Thursday in its second such test in under a week, part of a calibrated escalation of pressure on Washington that coincided almost exactly with a U.S. test of an intercontinental ballistic missile.

Kim Jong Un has been ratcheting up North Korea’s military displays with rocket and missile tests — each a bit more provocative than the last — following the breakdown of his summit with President Trump in Hanoi in February.

North Korea’s possible endgame remains difficult to decipher. Since Hanoi, there has been little apparent movement to restart talks on a potential deal to dismantle the North’s nuclear program in exchange for international development opportunities and the lifting of international sanctions.

But South Korean President Moon Jae-in said it seems Kim is “deeply discontented” by the unraveling of the Hanoi summit without a deal.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/as ... 22a170ae0a


Old news now, but after all the fire and brimstone in here, turns out it was even more troubling, in that Mueller himself wasn't pleased with Barr's handling of the report and it's summary.

Mueller complained AG Barr’s summary didn’t capture ‘context’ of Trump probe

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III wrote a letter in late March complaining to Attorney General William P. Barr that a four-page memo to Congress describing the principal conclusions of the investigation into President Trump “did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance” of Mueller’s work, according to a copy of the letter reviewed Tuesday by The Washington Post.

At the time the letter was sent on March 27, Barr had announced that Mueller had not found a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russian officials seeking to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. Barr also said Mueller had not reached a conclusion about whether Trump had tried to obstruct justice, but Barr reviewed the evidence and found it insufficient to support such a charge.

https://www.masslive.com/news/2019/04/m ... probe.html

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby shogun » May 9th, 2019, 10:58 pm

U.S. Issues New Sanctions as Iran Warns It Will Step Back From Nuclear Deal

WASHINGTON — Iran’s president declared on Wednesday that he would begin to walk away from the restrictions of a 2015 nuclear deal, and the Trump administration responded with a new round of sanctions against Tehran, reviving a crisis that had been contained for the past four years.

The escalation of threats caught the United States’ allies in Europe in the crossfire between Washington and Tehran. And while the announcement by President Hassan Rouhani of Iran did not terminate the landmark nuclear accord that was negotiated by world powers, it put it on life support.

Britain, France and Germany all opposed President Trump’s move a year ago to withdraw the United States from the accord that limited Iran’s capacity to produce nuclear fuel for 15 years. Ever since, the Trump administration has ramped up a pressure campaign against Iran’s military and clerical leaders, including blocking global oil exports and expediting warships and B-52 bombers to the Persian Gulf this week to face down what officials described, without evidence, as a new threat by Tehran against American troops in the Middle East.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/08/us/p ... -deal.html

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » May 10th, 2019, 6:23 am

In what Universe does Pakistan get a pass on nuclear weapons but not Iran?

Also how can anybody blame Iran for wanting nukes? Just look at what Bush did to Iraq and what Obama did to Libya and Syria both Bush and Obama are war criminals and genocidal maniacs. How on earth can you blame anyother country at this point for wanting Nukes?

If Saddam had nukes bet yuh arse Bush was never invading them.

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Postby Dizzy28 » May 10th, 2019, 10:02 am

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:In what Universe does Pakistan get a pass on nuclear weapons but not Iran?

Also how can anybody blame Iran for wanting nukes? Just look at what Bush did to Iraq and what Obama did to Libya and Syria both Bush and Obama are war criminals and genocidal maniacs. How on earth can you blame anyother country at this point for wanting Nukes?

If Saddam had nukes bet yuh arse Bush was never invading them.


There are many reasons. but primarily during the Cold War period Pakistan was actually a close US ally whilst India was a close Soviet ally. In fact Pakistan was so close to the US that when India entered the Bangladeshi Independence War (3rd Indo-Pak war) to assist the East Pakistanis (Bangladeshis) the US sent their largest Carrier task force to the Bay of Bengal, in the event they needed to assist the West Pakistanis. The Soviets also dispatched a nuclear armed navy contingent to counteract the Americans and assist India is need be.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Task_Forc ... do-Pak_war

Also Iran is too close to Israel and has what essentially is a mission statement to destroy the state of Israel.

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » May 10th, 2019, 12:58 pm

^ Thats not what I meant, if you understood Islam you would know that Islam specifically states that the Jews are the enemy of all mankind. So it doesn't matter of its Pakistan or Iran, both countries believe Israel must be destroyed for the sole fact that Israel is occupied primarily by Jews.

The fact that Pakistan can have nukes but not Iran is complete bullsh!t on America's part. Iran wants the Jews gone no less than Pakistan does.

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Postby Dizzy28 » May 10th, 2019, 1:10 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:^ Thats not what I meant, if you understood Islam you would know that Islam specifically states that the Jews are the enemy of all mankind. So it doesn't matter of its Pakistan or Iran, both countries have leaders who believe Israel must be destroyed for the sole fact that Israel is occupied primarily by Jews.

The fact that Pakistan can have nukes but not Iran is complete bullsh!t on America's part. Iran wants the Jews gone no less than Pakistan does.


1. Pakistan's whole nuclear and in extension its military doctrine is India centric. They do not have the depth to fight two major enemies in Israel and India. By contrast India's military doctrine is China centric hence their building of nuclear subs and having ICBMs with ranges capable of reaching Beijing.

2. It's not necessarily having nukes. It about delivery. Pakistan doesn't have the delivery system to attack Israel with their missiles all being India centric i.e. range to deliver within India and its territories. They do not have submarine launched nor airplane launched missiles. And even if they had airlaunched capability the Israeli air superiority might negate them anyway

The graphic below shows the ranges of what they have with Shaheen III the only one with Israel capable range but it is now being tested.
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3. You don't cry over spilt milk. Pakistan already has nukes and unlike Apartheid South Africa they will not give it up peacefully. Iran doesn't yet have (maybe) so that is something America can affect

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Postby sMASH » May 16th, 2019, 1:37 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:^ Thats not what I meant, if you understood Islam you would know that Islam specifically states that the Jews are the enemy of all mankind. So it doesn't matter of its Pakistan or Iran, both countries believe Israel must be destroyed for the sole fact that Israel is occupied primarily by Jews.


Mind proving everything there?

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https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/nxivm-campaign-contributions-trial-kieth-raniere-834854/

How NXIVM Allegedly Tried to ‘Curry Favor’ With the Clintons
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A former member of NXIVM’s executive board testified that the group illegally donated to a Hillary Clinton campaign

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A former member of NXIVM testified on Monday that members of the alleged cult tried to buy power and influence by currying favor with politicians and making illegal campaign contributions to the Clintons.

Mark Vicente, a documentary filmmaker and former high-ranking member of the group, testified at the trial of NXIVM head Keith Raniere that Clare Bronfman, the billionaire Seagram’s heiress and alleged benefactor of the organization, approached him and a few other members of the group to help her make a contribution to a Clinton campaign. Bronfman, the youngest daughter of Seagram’s billionaire Edgar Bronfman, Jr., pleaded guilty in April to one count of credit card fraud and harboring someone in the U.S. illegally for unpaid labor and services.


Because the donation couldn’t be “above a certain amount,” Vicente testified, Bronfman asked him to make the donation in her stead, so she could reimburse him for it later. (At the time, individual campaign contributions had a cap of $2,300.) He said he wrote a check for between $2,000 and $3,000, for which Bronfman later reimbursed him. It is illegal for straw donors to make campaign contributions that exceed the maximum amount.

Although Vicente initially could not recall which political campaign it was or which Clinton it was for, he confirmed it was likely Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential run after prosecutor Mark Lesko reminded him that she ran that year. Vicente said there was a “quiet fundraising attempt” within the group for the Clintons, estimating that the total amount of campaign funds given to the Clinton campaign from NXIVM was “$30,000-something.” (NXIVM donated about $29,900 in March and April 2007 for the 2008 election, according to a story from the New York Post.)

This was not the first time that NXIM members had forayed into the political sphere. Vicente testified that “there was a strong desire to connect with people in politics.” In addition to the “attempts to curry favor with the Clintons,” as Vicente put it, group cofounder Nancy Salzman had a relationship with New York Republican State Senator and former Senate Majority leader Joe Bruno.

Bronfman, the youngest daughter of Seagram’s billionaire Edgar Bronfman Jr., pleaded guilty in April to one count of credit card fraud and harboring someone in the U.S. illegally for unpaid labor and services.



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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby The_Honourable » May 19th, 2019, 3:47 pm

In a Fox News YouTube exclusive cut, Attorney General William Barr sits down with Bill Hemmer for a wide-ranging interview covering everything from investigating the Russia probe to combatting gang violence, including a special message for his critics.


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Postby De Dragon » May 20th, 2019, 5:09 pm

^^
You mean Mr Toad, the Human Shield?

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby timelapse » May 22nd, 2019, 8:41 am

redmanjp wrote:
timelapse wrote:We own politics not enough to keep allyuh occupied you beating up over other people folly?


why do we even have this thread then? we shouldn't be concerned with the affairs of the world's biggest superpower?


Not that we have any influence in their business. If we were minidng our own business , maybe just maybe we could fix our own problems.

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Postby redmanjp » May 22nd, 2019, 3:18 pm

timelapse wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
timelapse wrote:We own politics not enough to keep allyuh occupied you beating up over other people folly?


why do we even have this thread then? we shouldn't be concerned with the affairs of the world's biggest superpower?


Not that we have any influence in their business. If we were minding our own business , maybe just maybe we could fix our own problems.


their 'business' affects the rest of the world in some way. also many of us have relatives there- i personally have 3 siblings and some cousins there

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Postby shogun » May 22nd, 2019, 11:47 pm

President Donald Trump, while portraying himself as the victim in a political war, is foiling an aggressive House Democratic majority’s investigations with historic fervor by refusing to comply with many subpoenas and other oversight requests.

On one level, this is nothing new. Prior Congresses and White Houses have certainly found themselves at odds over how much information to disclose. But the blanket defiance of the Trump administration has reached a new level of obstruction in recent days.

“That’s about as blatant an obstruction of the lawful processes of a coequal branch of government as I’ve ever seen,” Laurence Tribe, a Harvard constitutional scholar, told the Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin recently.

According to Politico, citing House Democratic sources, the Trump administration has denied or delayed the release of information sought by Democratic committees on more than 30 occasions, and half a dozen administration officials have refused to appear before House panels.

The dispute headed to court when Trump’s personal attorneys sued Oversight Committee Chair Elijah Cummings over Cummings’s subpoena of Trump’s accounting firm seeking his personal financial records. The next day, the administration missed a deadline to turn over Trump’s tax returns requested by the House Ways and Means Committee, and the president himself called the Washington Post’s Robert Costa to say he didn’t want White House aides — like former aide Carl Kline, recently subpoenaed and now at risk of contempt of Congress proceedings — to testify before a House panel.

Trump indicated to the Post he had done all he needed to do by cooperating with special counsel Robert Mueller (who notably probed whether Trump obstructed justice and left the question of whether he had to Congress). The White House also said it plans to fight a Democratic subpoena of former White House counsel Don McGahn, a critical figure in the

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... carl-kline

Ignoring subpoenas? Anyone ever heard about blanket refusal of oversight, or a president suing congress and restricting staff from appearing before congress? Things so bad that the Trump administration is not even turning over EPA documents for oversight. Madness. This guy ran as the "Law & Order" President? What happened?

Judge rules against Trump in lawsuit challenging subpoena for financial records

A U.S. judge on Monday ruled in favor of a U.S. House of Representatives committee seeking President Donald Trump‘s financial records from his accounting firm, dealing an early setback to the Trump administration in its legal battle with Congress.

U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta in Washington also denied a request by Trump to stay his decision pending an appeal.


Last Tuesday Mehta heard oral arguments on whether Mazars LLP must comply with a House of Representatives Oversight Committee subpoena.

Mehta said in Monday’s ruling that the committee “has shown that it is not engaged in a pure fishing expedition for the President’s financial records” and that the Mazars documents might assist Congress in passing laws and performing other core functions.


Also, I wish someone would pull Trump aside and explain to him that the US is not "taking in tens of millions of dollars in tariffs." How is it possible that someone could not understand how trade works and what tariffs are, in the middle of escalating a trade war with China and this late in the game? :lol: The fcuk really going on?

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Postby The_Honourable » May 23rd, 2019, 12:36 pm

While dems subpoenaing everybody... Trump wall going up. Dems bawling only 2 miles was built.

In a "Border Wall Status" update issued Monday, the CBP reports that thus far $6.1 billion has been allocated to building the wall, which it estimates will result in a total of "approximately 336 total miles" of border wall over the next couple of years. The report provides a breakdown of the different types of wall construction the 336 total miles will include:

- 86 miles of new primary wall
- 24 miles of new levee wall
- 68 miles of updated primary wall
- 144 miles of updated vehicle wall
- 14 miles of updated secondary wall

Thus, a total of 110 miles of the project will be "new" wall, while approximately 226 miles will be "updated" construction.

Thus far, 20 miles of new border wall has been constructed "through the traditional appropriations process and via Treasury Forfeiture Funding," the CBP reports.

In addition, the report specifies that "approximately 39.5, or about 99%, of the 40 miles of new border wall in place of pedestrian fence and vehicle barrier funded by the FY 2017 enacted budget" has been completed. Thus, around 60 miles of new wall has been completed during Trump's presidency when the budget secured by the Obama administration is included.

Source: https://www.dailywire.com/news/47575/up ... es-barrett

Full CBP report: https://www.scribd.com/document/4111506 ... t-05-20-19

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Postby shogun » May 24th, 2019, 12:40 am

All while Republicans under the leadership of the "stable genius" ignore the US Constitution and the separation of powers, and refuse a legally enforceable demand for documents, the once "small government" Republicans are busy telling female victims of rape and incest and risk to life, what to do with their wombs, trying to reopen investigations into Hillary (Yeah, Hilla-effing-ry) and even investigate the intelligence community itself. Interesting times.

AP FACT CHECK: Trump is overpromising on border wall

Here’s a look at a sampling of his rhetoric Monday night at a rally in Montoursville, Pennsylvania, and how it compares with the facts:

BORDER

TRUMP: “The wall is being built as we speak. We’ll have almost 500 miles of wall by the end of next year.”

THE FACTS: It’s unclear how Trump arrives at 500 miles (800 kilometers), but he would have to prevail in legal challenges to his declaration of a national emergency or get Congress to cough up more money to get anywhere close. Those are big assumptions.

So far, the administration has awarded contracts for 244 miles (390 kilometers) of wall construction, but more than half comes from Defense Department money available under Trump’s Feb. 15 emergency declaration. Two judges — in Washington and in San Francisco — are weighing whether to block the administration for tapping those funds.

And nearly all of what Trump has awarded so far is for replacement barriers and fencing, not new miles of wall. Even if Trump prevails in court, all but 14 miles (22 kilometers) of those awarded contracts replace existing barriers.

The White House says it has identified up to $8.1 billion in potential money under the national emergency, mostly from the Defense Department.

Customs and Border Protection officials say the administration wants Congress to finance 206 miles (330 kilometers) next year. The chances of the Democratic-controlled House backing that are between slim and none.

https://www.apnews.com/22666355d2bc4e5391adcde21a83cc26


Federal Court Rules That Michigan's Congressional Map Was Unfairly Gerrymandered

A federal court in Michigan says that the state's Republican-controlled legislature unfairly drew some of Michigan's state legislative and U.S. House district lines and that a divided government will have to come up with new boundaries.

A panel of three judges said that 27 of 34 challenged districts diluted the weight of people's votes and that every challenged district is unconstitutional.

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/25/71724146 ... rymandered

Man, things look rough.

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Postby redmanjp » May 24th, 2019, 10:21 am

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/05/24/trump_orders_declassification_of_obama-era_russia_probe_intel__140417.html

Trump Orders Declassification of Obama-Era Russia Probe Intel
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Trump Orders Declassification of Obama-Era Russia Probe IntelAP Photo/Evan Vucci, File

Democrats leading the impeachment charge against President Trump have repeatedly called on him to justify his assertion that Obama administration officials tried to undermine his 2016 presidential campaign and election. On Thursday night, he took the first step in doing just that when he ordered the declassification of intelligence documents that he has said show the pathway Obama officials navigated to spy on the campaign.

In a directive to the CIA, the director of National Intelligence, the Pentagon and several other national security agencies, Trump handed Attorney General Bill Barr the authority to declassify or downgrade “information or intelligence that relates to the attorney general’s review.” The president ordered the agencies to “promptly provide such assistance and information as the attorney general may request in connection with that review.”

Barr has begun looking into the origins and timing of the FBI’s 2016 counter-intelligence investigation, code-named “Crossfire Hurricane,” aimed at uncovering evidence that Trump campaign officials were conspiring with Russians to interfere in the election. The FBI’s probe included wiretaps on a Trump adviser Carter Page.

Trump’s move came earlier than many of his allies and associates had expected. Most had expected him to wait until Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz released the results of his year-long investigation into the sources and methods the FBI used to begin surveillance on the Trump campaign based at least in part on discredited information gathered by former British spy Christopher Steele.

Barr has said the inspector general is wrapping up his probe and could release a final report as early as next month.

But after a series of fiery clashes between Trump and Speaker Nancy Pelosi over the last two days, Trump moved to begin the declassification process.

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders in a statement said the order “will help Americans learn the truth about the events that occurred, and the actions that were taken during the last presidential election and will restore confidence in our public institutions.”

Sanders also underscored the “the full and complete” authority Barr now has “to declassify information pertaining to this investigation, in accordance with the long-established standards for handling classified information.”

The declassification process will undoubtedly shed new light on the role FBI officials, including former Director James Comey and his deputy, Andrew McCabe, as well as former FBI agent Peter Strzok, lawyer Lisa Page and former Associate Deputy Director Bruce Ohr, played in seeking the warrant application under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to begin spying on Page.

The move also could help detail the role former CIA Director John Brennan played in pushing the narrative regarding Russian efforts to penetrate the Trump campaign. The first evidence of those efforts, according to media reports, came from foreign intelligence sources’ tipoffs, based on voice intercepts, computer traffic or human sources based outside the United States, dating back to 2015.

Former National Intelligence Director James Clapper has argued that the unproven “Russian dossier” that Steele composed — and which was bankrolled by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign — was not the primary source for the FISA warrants. If not, then the declassified FISA-related documents will undoubtedly show what other information officials used to secure the surveillance warrants.

Nearly two years ago, when Trump accused Susan Rice, Obama’s national security adviser, of engaging in the “unmasking” of U.S. persons as part of the counter-intelligence probe, a potentially criminal act, Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff said he should show proof that it occurred.

“If he’s going to make accusations of criminality against anyone, he needs to show evidence to support that kind of charge,” the then-ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee said at the time.

Rep. Eric Swalwell, now a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, went further, arguing that “if the president wants to say that Susan Rice committed a crime, he has the power to declassify. No one else does.”

Trump tried to declassify materials related to the FBI’s Russian investigation back in September, but Democrats objected that doing so would compromise FBI “sources and methods.” The president abandoned the plan after key allies called on him not to release the material over concerns that doing so could have a negative impact on the then-ongoing Russia probe led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

Trump and his allies have said that scrutinizing the FBI’s “sources and methods” is the only way to determine whether the U.S. government’s spying laws, which were greatly expanded after the 9/11 attacks, were abused to undermine Trump’s presidential campaign or to try to derail his presidency once elected.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby timelapse » May 24th, 2019, 10:30 am

redmanjp wrote:
timelapse wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
timelapse wrote:We own politics not enough to keep allyuh occupied you beating up over other people folly?


why do we even have this thread then? we shouldn't be concerned with the affairs of the world's biggest superpower?


Not that we have any influence in their business. If we were minding our own business , maybe just maybe we could fix our own problems.


their 'business' affects the rest of the world in some way. also many of us have relatives there- i personally have 3 siblings and some cousins there


But what can you do about it besides beatup on the internet?Unless you are a citizen of the US, nothing you say means diddly squat

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby shogun » May 24th, 2019, 11:58 pm

THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS DECLARING A FAKE EMERGENCY TO SELL WEAPONS TO SAUDI ARABIA

THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION chose the Friday afternoon before Memorial Day weekend to invoke an obscure state-of-emergency provision that would allow it to sell billions of dollars in weapons to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates without giving Congress a chance to block the sale.

A Democratic congressional source told The Intercept on Friday that the administration was using the measure to clear a backlog of more than 20 proposed arms sales to Saudi Arabia and the UAE, many of which would be blocked if they came to a vote in the Senate.

https://theintercept.com/2019/05/24/us- ... rms-sales/

Now Republicans are up in arms as well. This is what you get when you encourage your party leader to disobey rule-of-law, to get his way. Sometimes it comes back to bite you in the arse. With mass starvation and suffering already in Yemen, this will only further the suffering.

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