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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby toyolink » December 13th, 2018, 12:07 pm

The sitting president of the USA appears under-siege and one wonders if his ability to govern is now stymied.
Based on the developing circumstances as they relate to improperly interfering with the 2016 elections and efforts to collaborate with Russian interests, impeachment utterances are becoming more viable.
Presently the country well regarded as the leader of the free world appears to have become quite weak.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby sMASH » December 20th, 2018, 8:49 pm

trump tweeted that there will be an rapid pull out of syria.. good news. but, they had a 3.2 billion weapons deal with turkey.

pulling out, is what made him made sense in the primaries.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby shogun » December 20th, 2018, 9:03 pm

^It's also what he crIticized Obama for, because it allowed ISIS to fill the void. Though, Obama couldn't secure immunity for US forces from Afghan lawmakers, so was really left no choice but a drawdown of troops.

Veteran trial attorney on Trump Foundation scandal: “It is going to become a criminal matter"
https://www.salon.com/2018/12/19/vetera ... al-matter/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... 237c71f6dd

Seems Trump was using his "charity" as his own personal fund.

Unusually quiet about that fellas? Especially with all the braying about the Clinton Foundation? Funny that after the 3 year investigation, the Clinton Foundation was given an A+ rating, only to find out Trump and his family were the ones involved in actual crimes? Hail to the thief.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby sMASH » December 21st, 2018, 6:24 am

not surprising. but thought he might have hid it a lot better.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby De Dragon » December 21st, 2018, 11:34 pm

shogun wrote:^It's also what he crIticized Obama for, because it allowed ISIS to fill the void. Though, Obama couldn't secure immunity for US forces from Afghan lawmakers, so was really left no choice but a drawdown of troops.

Veteran trial attorney on Trump Foundation scandal: “It is going to become a criminal matter"
https://www.salon.com/2018/12/19/vetera ... al-matter/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... 237c71f6dd

Seems Trump was using his "charity" as his own personal fund.

Unusually quiet about that fellas? Especially with all the braying about the Clinton Foundation? Funny that after the 3 year investigation, the Clinton Foundation was given an A+ rating, only to find out Trump and his family were the ones involved in actual crimes? Hail to the thief.

Erectile D go stop jortsing with his PNM neighbour jes now and post a setta lame videos from fellow Dump ball blowers jes now...................

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » December 21st, 2018, 11:36 pm

so Trump pulling out of the middle east and everyone of you phaggots are upset about this? why?

I thought the left was always Anti War? why the sudden change to Pro War now?


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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby matr1x » December 22nd, 2018, 2:12 pm

Obama was the drone strike specialist

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby shogun » December 22nd, 2018, 5:08 pm

I see head trauma ED at it again? Chupidity with no bounds.

Left? What does CNN have to do with the left? CNN is a for profit news organization. They're about packaging and selling conflict. Did you even watch the video? He clearly says the person at MSNBC criticizing Trump was a conservative. Why simple concepts so hard for you to grasp, jackarse? Have you taken the time to look at the actual left's response? Unanimously glad about pulling out of Syria, though most questioning Trump's reasoning AND the abruptness of the draw down, not to mention the many more that are critical about not at least giving US allies a heads up. I mean that's what a coalition is supposed to be about. It's just not how things are done. Being erratic is not policy. The fact is many if not ALL military heads with actual knowledge of what's happening ON THE GROUND are painting a different picture of what's actually happening and how terrible an idea it is to pull out right now, so abruptly. Let's hope Trump made his decision after serious careful contemplation of the facts, introspection and knowledge about the history of the conflict? Who are we fooling, this is Donald "doesn't like to read" Trump. Nothing but erratic desperation because of the walls closing in on him. Has Trump ever even visited the troops in a war zone like past presidents? Do you also think General Mattis (who disagreed, but stayed on during the Muslim Ban, troops at the border fiascos) would resign for no reason? Mattis himself said Trump has a 4th, or 5th grade understanding of the North Korean situation. And that pales in comparison to the complexities of the tensions in Syria or the middle east.

LOL! Jimmy Dore should be the LAST person to be critical of anyone. That tired hypocritical hack was reporting for weeks about the Seth Rich murder/Clinton connection, Uranium one "scandals" and Hillary's parkinson's disease drivel, even though ALL evidence proved all to be nothing but bullsh!t or manufactured conspiratorial garbage. Where was his integrity then? His bloated failed comedian's ego is so toxic that he actually said, he hoped Bernie Sanders "effin' lose again" because Bernie didn't appear on his ridiculous show. Bernie was smart enough to avoid Jimmy and his show like the plague. Bernie eh chupid. lol Sure, Jimmy is on Bernie's nuts constantly, but his toxic ego misguided anger and lack of integrity always negates any potential good he could do. It's common knowledge that most of Jimmy's listeners are Trump supporters. Dore's followers are often terrible human beings. Nothing but low info disgruntled cucks, nihilists and idiots. You fit right in.




matr1x wrote:Obama was the drone strike specialist


And yet Trump was able to kill more innocent civilians in two years than Obama did in eight. I guess being a "specialist" could be a good thing?
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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby De Dragon » December 22nd, 2018, 7:50 pm

Like I said, Erectile is a stupid arse blowing Dump Boy

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby matr1x » December 22nd, 2018, 11:42 pm

Shogun, you keep thinking that

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby shogun » December 23rd, 2018, 12:52 am

Thinking?

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-has-alre ... sis-653564

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... wars-trump

Next time try the red pill, matr1x. Interesting that you'll defend Trump here, yet immediately crawl orf to bash the PNM in another ched with over the top hysterics. LOL!

Some of allyuh fellas dealing with layers of cognitive dissonance.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby matr1x » December 23rd, 2018, 8:21 am

Shogun, you think they are the same?


The pnm are vision less turds.

Trump is a stand against the entitlement brigade. Also, less of a oreo, Obama was one of the worst presidents of recent memory

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » December 23rd, 2018, 6:28 pm

Shogun is a PNM agent, same can be said about De Dragon he does only pretend to vote for UNC on tuner here but you can't trust him

These same phaggots were Anti war now they are all Pro War, and the best part is they pretend to act like CNN and NYT isn't their go to Liberal news source.

This nasty liar Shocunt will never admit the truth about the US liberal media but thankfully Jimmy Dore will



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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby shogun » December 24th, 2018, 8:40 pm

LMAO! From one pack of drivel to the next.

Going over my list of PNM agents here and I see my name at the top, but don't see Dragos name anywhere? Probably a double agent? I'll let De Dragon deal with you.

I'll deal with you inna timing as well. Until then, Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays. If Santa reads any of your posts I'm sure he has that new reinforced helmet with instructions ready for delivery. Peace.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby The_Honourable » December 24th, 2018, 10:00 pm

Goosh all this going on in here? Anywayz...

All’s unfair in love, war: Media’s extraordinary hypocrisy on Trump

I watched with amusement the past few days as the news media savaged President Donald Trump, first for forcing some ex-generals off his team and then for drawing down troops from the conflicts in Syria and Afghanistan.

My colleagues at many publications and networks were in full-throated hysteria, suggesting the nation is approaching the brink of disaster. Some actually used that very word.

Things sounded so dire that I almost felt like I was reading a chapter from the Book of Revelations or a script from a new Bruce Willis movie. Take, for example:

- Tom Brokaw suggested the USS America is under the dark spell of Captain Queeg, one that needed to be broken by mutiny because Trump disagreed with his Defense secretary and summoned troops home. (FYI, I think the National Institutes of Health needs to develop a vaccine for the opinion disease that seems to afflict supposedly neutral ex-anchors these days.)

- A co-host, Brian Kilmeade, at “Fox and Friends” suggested the president just revived the terror group ISIS by pulling troops from Syria.

- The Washington Post ran an editorial with a headline exhorting Americans to “be afraid” because Trump dismissed ex-general James Mattis as Defense secretary.

And then I remembered this is the same news media that took the opposite side on all these issues just a few months ago.

For example, the Post, that bastion of journalism whose marketing tagline is “Democracy dies in darkness,” the same paper that lambasted Trump for dismissing an ex-general as a Cabinet secretary last week ran an article, a year ago with this priceless headline: “Let’s not staff a White House with generals ever again.”

Okay, so hiring a general is bad — and firing a general is bad. Hmmm. Apparently democracy isn’t the only thing in darkness at the Post. Collective memory, common sense and consistency apparently are searching for a flashlight, too.

Now to NBC, where Brokaw was the face of the network for decades and still is identified as a special correspondent on “Morning Joe.” His colorful tweet comparing Trump to an infamously insane Navy captain from American literature was prompted by the troop-withdrawal decision.

But there’s a funny twist: It was Morning Joe himself who declared on MSNBC during the Obama years that it was time to bring our troops home. Hmmm. Okay for Barack Obama, but reckless for Trump. I’ll let you decide.

And now for Fox.

Kilmeade’s disdain for the troop withdrawal was overt, and it was expressed on one of the president’s reported favorite morning shows, “Fox and Friends.”

That’s the same “Fox and Friends” show that frequently showcases Judge Andrew Napolitano, and the same network that ran a column from “Judge Nap” in 2017 declaring that Trump’s original intervention in Syria was both “emotional and illegal.”

Hmmm. Bad for Trump to enter Syria, and even worse for him to leave it. Somebody seems to have been “napping” on the consistency watch.

I am neither a fan nor foe of Trump. I can’t be. That’s because I took a vow of neutrality when I entered the journalism profession.

But I am confused by all these opinion somersaults by major news outlets.

And maybe that’s just it: Maybe it’s time for journalists to report just the facts, and to leave the opinions to their readers and viewers.

It could save a whole lot of hypocritical flip-flops in the future.

Source: https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house ... y-on-trump

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby sMASH » December 24th, 2018, 10:29 pm

Obama was supposed to pull out troops from either Iraq or Afghanistan, ended up sending 7000 more alwithin a 6 months.

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Postby matr1x » December 25th, 2018, 3:44 am

One of the many jokes about afro American men and pulling out

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby De Dragon » December 27th, 2018, 3:53 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Shogun is a PNM agent, same can be said about De Dragon he does only pretend to vote for UNC on tuner here but you can't trust him

These same phaggots were Anti war now they are all Pro War, and the best part is they pretend to act like CNN and NYT isn't their go to Liberal news source.

This nasty liar Shocunt will never admit the truth about the US liberal media but thankfully Jimmy Dore will



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Postby sMASH » January 14th, 2019, 10:18 pm

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/448791-iran-in ... 6QvhXuKals

rt.com wrote:Response to US global bullying: Iran, India ditch dollar to continue trading oil despite sanctions
In an effort to circumvent US-imposed sanctions, India and Iran have reportedly ditched the US dollar and are trading oil in rupees. The reason becomes clear after considering the dynamics at play in the region.

In mid-February last year, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani visited India, and the two countries signed nine agreements signalling a strengthening of ties. Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi appeared to celebrate the growing relationship, stating that it was “a matter of great pleasure” for India that an Iranian president came to India “after a gap of 10 years.”

Fast-forward a few months later, and then-UN ambassador Nikki Haley was bluntly telling India that they should rethink their relationship with Tehran.

Donald Trump’s decision to rip up the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) last year, also known as the Iranian nuclear accord, was a particularly significant blow to Iran-India relations. At the time the JCPOA was formulated, Indian officials believed the deal to be the “best deal available.” After the JCPOA’s implementation in 2016, exports of Iranian oil to India increased by more than 110 percent.

Maybe the issue isn’t always that Washington wants to contain its rivals in the Middle East and Asia, but perhaps there is a chance that it also wants to keep a lid on its so-called allies as well. Right now, India is the third largest oil consumer in the world, and is expected to become the largest by the year 2040. As its domestic reserves are not meeting the needs of its rapidly expanding economy, India has been importing 80 percent of its oil supply from overseas, including and especially Iran.
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Prior to Washington’s Iran-sanctions regime, Iran was India’s third largest supplier of crude oil (it is now about sixth place). It is no surprise therefore, that India’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson responded by saying that Haley had “her views, and our views on Iran are very clear.” He also warned that India would “take all necessary steps, including engagement with relevant stakeholders to ensure our energy security.”

It does seem like the days of foreign states being bullied into adopting a dangerous foreign policy are over. If Washington has any doubt about this, they need only turn to this exclusive Reuters report which revealed that India had begun paying Iran for its oil in rupees, according to a senior bank official, under the guise of a six-month waiver which was given to seven other countries (including China). According to the report, in a previous round of US-imposed sanctions, India settled approximately half of oil payments in rupees and the remainder in euros. However, this time around, all payments are to be made in rupees.

Furthermore, the agreement, worth $1.5 billion, reportedly hands Iran a tax break of $637 million. For its part, Iran will use its rupee supply to fund its imports of pharmaceuticals and other items from India, invest in Indian businesses and pay for Iranian missions and students in India.

Prior to this arrangement, US-led sanctions continued to decimate Iran’s ability to trade freely with its partner. Oilprice explains that in December, Indian oil imports from Iran plunged by 41 percent to just over 300,000 barrels per day (bpd). This is effectively the amount allowed under Washington’s waiver.
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Insurance companies are becoming increasingly unwilling to engage in transactions involving Iran, due to the risk that sanctions attract. However, according to a separate Reuters report, Russian and Chinese shipping companies had been pitching to facilitate India-Iran trade.

It seems to me that if enough countries continue to pull together to override Washington’s sanctions, they will at some point be rendered completely ineffective. It also seems as though Washington is pushing these countries to work more closely together, whereas these countries may have been freer to explore their differences and their disagreements had they been left to their own devices.

The blunt truth is that India and Iran have too much in common for India to submit fully to Washington’s strategy of global bullying. There is also a lot of things that Iran can give India which the United States cannot, and not just free shipping, insurance and extended credit. As the Diplomat explains, India and Iran both share an interest in combating Sunni-backed extremism, especially in Pakistan and Afghanistan. They both have an interest in doing what they can to outmanoeuvre China in certain aspects.

In February last year, the two nations came to an agreement involving a lease between Iran’s Port and Maritime Organization and India Ports Global Limited, which allowed India to run part of Chabahar Port for 18 months.

The two countries released a joint statement at the time, describing the port as a “golden gateway” that will help the two countries in reaching out to Afghanistan and Central Asia. This gateway is so golden, it seems, that India has already committed over $500 million to the project, with indications that it could become a multi-billion dollar project.

The idea of the project is to improve “energy, security and regional connectivity” to reach Afghanistan. In reality, it allows India to ship supplies to Afghanistan while bypassing Pakistan. Chabahar Port in southeastern Iran is approximately 90km (56 miles) west of the Pakistani port of Gwadar, the epicentre of an enormous Chinese infrastructure program in Pakistan. This is the same location where it was rumored that China was establishing a military base.
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In other words, if India is forced to join the US effort to completely isolate Iran on the world stage, it may risk losing out on a significant chunk of the regional fruits to Pakistan and China. This is not conjecture; Iran has already reached out to Pakistan and China to participate in the Chabahar project. As the all-knowing Atlantic Council summarised, if India bows to the US, it risks losing Iran to China.

India also needs Iran’s ports to complete the so-called International North-South Transport Corridor (INSTC), which would ideally connect India to the Persian Gulf, Central Asia, Russia and even Europe, and would allegedly increase India’s $1 billion trade with Central Asia to a whopping $170 billion.

China already has a direct connection to Central Asia, placing India at a disadvantage by default, and its trade with Central Asian nations is already at $30 billion; well above India’s. In 2000, India, Iran and Russia signed an agreement for the purpose of developing the North-South transport corridor.

India, Iran and Afghanistan held a tripartite meeting in September last year in which they discussed the Afghanistan peace process, cooperation against terrorism, as well as Chabahar Port. It is noticeable, to say the least, that Pakistan and China were not involved in this discussion. Just last week, Iran and India held a similar meeting.

India is also currently developing two gas fields, Farzad-B in Tehran and the South Pars field located between Iran and Qatar (which is the largest gas field in the world). Trump may soon begin to realise how difficult it is to isolate these states from one another after the simple examination of a world atlas.

Even the effect of US sanctions on ordinary people that the United States consider allies appear to not have been taken into account. Most reports allege that the absence of Iranian oil makes oil market prices shoot through the roof, affecting common Indian residents who had been enjoying cheaper oil prices under the JCPOA. Does the US want the people of India to hate Iran, or to hate the enforcer of these sanctions?

Reportedly, a “preferential trade”agreement between Iran and India is also in the works which will come into force in the not-so-distant future. The two nations have also already signed an agreement worth $2 billion on cooperation in the railway sector. At the start of this year, Iran also announced it would invest Rs 1,500 crore to expand a refinery run by Chennai Petroleum Corp, in a move that sees Iran attempting to counter US-imposed sanctions and cement its position in India.

You won’t see this in the mainstream media, but India also quietly allowed an Iranian bank to open a branch in Mumbai just last week.
Also on rt.com Iranian bank cleared to start operations in India – minister

Despite undue pressure from Washington, at the end of the day India still has indicated it will abide by its sanctions and the waiver that it has been given (as far as possible).

It is therefore unclear what the US is hoping to achieve through this strategy. Yes, sanctions greatly weaken Iran’s economy and threaten the collapse of its currency, but they also push these adversarial states to consider agreements which circumvent the use of the US dollar, even with Washington’s more traditional allies. If enough countries drop the use of the dollar in bilateral trade, the dollar will no longer have the international use it once had. As of right now, Venezuela, Qatar, China, Russia, India and Iran – just to name a few – are all nations who have considered the use of alternative currencies to counter Washington’s sanctions regime.

If the ultimate aim of the US is to weaken the dollar’s status on the global markets, then it can be my guest.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby Miktay » January 15th, 2019, 11:15 am

When Saudi ditch USD leh mih know.

Until then....zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Postby sMASH » January 15th, 2019, 12:26 pm

^^tru

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Postby redmanjp » January 24th, 2019, 1:34 am

Hmmm. Govt. Shut down >30 days:>RIF(reduction in force)>Draining swamp?

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Postby redmanjp » January 25th, 2019, 10:15 pm

previous presidents knew about these elite criminals eh- JFK & Reagan (who they then targeted)

obviously he's going overboard by naming names like the Clintons, etc. but there are ppl who control the world from behind the scenes

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Postby hydroep » February 6th, 2019, 8:01 pm

The complete and utter collapse of Virginia's Democratic Party
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(CNN)That sound you hear is Virginia's Democratic Party collapsing on itself.

In the last six days, the following things have happened:

[*]Gov. Ralph Northam said he was in a picture in his medical school yearbook of two people -- one in blackface, the other in KKK robes. He then recanted and said he wasn't in that picture. But he added that he *had* darkened his face to look more like Michael Jackson for a dance contest in 1984.

[*]A woman named Vanessa Tyson accused Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax of assaulting her during the 2004 Democratic National Convention in Boston. Fairfax angrily denied the allegations. Then on Wednesday Tyson released a statement, in which she said in part "what began as consensual kissing quickly turned into a sexual assault."

[*]State Attorney General Mark Herring, in a statement released Wednesday morning, acknowledged that he, too, had appeared in blackface at a party. "In 1980, when I was a 19-year-old undergraduate in college, some friends suggested we attend a party dressed like rappers we listened to at the time, like Kurtis Blow, and perform a song," Herring said.

What. The. Actual. Hell.

It's hard to process this chain of events. In the immediate aftermath of the blackface/KKK picture that may or may not have featured Northam, the writing appeared to be on the wall: He needed to go. Every major national Democrat this side of Barack Obama called for Northam to step aside. As did many of Northam's longtime allies, including former Virginia governors Tim Kaine and Terry McAuliffe.

The rush to get Northam was due, in part, to what appeared to be an elegant solution: Fairfax, the 39-year old African-American lieutenant governor seemed ready, willing and able to take over.
That quick succession plan took a major hit with the allegation from Tyson. And the subsequent, largely behind-the-scenes finger-pointing between forces aligned with Fairfax, Northam and Democratic Richmond Mayor LeVar Stoney over who leaked the Fairfax allegation.

That alone was enough to create something very close to total chaos in the Virginia Democratic Party, which has been ascendant in recent years -- having held the governorship for all but four years since 2001 and now controlling both of the state's US Senate seats and seven of the state's 11 congressional districts.

But the Herring news -- on top of everything else -- made for a full sky-is-falling moment among Virginia Democrats.
And for somewhat good reason. The party's top three elected officials in the state are now in varying levels of political distress. All three are damaged, although it remains to be seen how badly. Then there's this: If all three resign, the speaker of the Virginia House of Delegates -- Republican Kirk Cox -- would be next in line to take over.

But wait, there's more!

Cox is speaker solely because Republican David Yancey won a state House seat in early 2018 when his name was picked out of a bowl. Yes, this really happened! (The race was tied. If Yancey had lost the random drawing, the state House would have been split 50-50.)

The implications of this stunning series of events could be considerable -- in both Virginia and the rest of the country.

Virginia holds state legislative elections this November and, prior to the past five days, Democrats believed they were in strong shape to take over majorities in both the state House and state Senate. (Republicans have a three-seat edge in the state House and a two seat gap in the state Senate.)

Plus, Virginia is the only state in the country that limits its governors to a single term -- meaning that no matter what happens, there will be an open seat race in 2021. And now Fairfax and Herring -- two likely contenders for that job -- are in the midst of scandals. It's less clear how much residual damage if any Stoney, who also has gubernatorial ambitions, suffers from all of this.

Nationally, Democrats have sought to adopt a zero-tolerance policy toward allegations of sexual assault and race amid the Trump presidency and the #MeToo movement. To have not one, not two, but three statewide elected officials in a swing state battling a variety of these charges -- and with none currently signaling they will step aside -- is a political nightmare for the party writ large.

There's a tendency in politics -- especially with Trump in the White House -- to insist that nothing like this has ever happened before. In most cases, that's a significant exaggeration.

The situation in Virginia is not one of those cases.


https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/06/politics/herring-northam-fairfax-virginia-democrats/index.html

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby matr1x » February 6th, 2019, 9:44 pm

Democrats care more about illegals than citizens

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby sMASH » February 6th, 2019, 10:30 pm

democrats are a WOFT. panday would call them the corpse too. nancy pelosi cheering on donald, the whole arena cheering on no socialism... they are republican lite...

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby shogun » February 6th, 2019, 10:54 pm

matr1x wrote:Democrats care more about illegals than citizens


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... 48882b05e4

"More than citizens" ? Is that actually true? Or does it just FEEL true, to you? Either way, nice!

Better than being a complete hypocrite about it though? And it's not just Trump either. Everyone from Lou Dobbs to Mitt Romney, to even homeland security border officers were caught hiring/employing illegals while publicly condemning them.

The least Republicans and CONservatives could do, is admit that immigrants provide cheap labor and do jobs no one else wants and stop demonizing and USING the people for mere political mileage with the racists in their base? Keep the dream alive though matr1x. :lol:

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