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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby nick639v2 » March 20th, 2019, 7:20 pm

T&T blanked as Trump invites Caribbean leaders to meeting


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U.S. President Donald Trump has invited the leaders of the Bahamas, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Jamaica and Saint Lucia to his Florida resort on Friday to discuss Chinese "predatory economic practices" and the crisis in Venezuela.

Also to be discussed is security cooperation and potential opportunities for energy investment, the White House said in a statement issued on Tuesday.

No invitation was extended to Trinidad and Tobago.




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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby De Dragon » March 20th, 2019, 8:50 pm

nick639v2 wrote:T&T blanked as Trump invites Caribbean leaders to meeting


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U.S. President Donald Trump has invited the leaders of the Bahamas, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Jamaica and Saint Lucia to his Florida resort on Friday to discuss Chinese "predatory economic practices" and the crisis in Venezuela.

Also to be discussed is security cooperation and potential opportunities for energy investment, the White House said in a statement issued on Tuesday.

No invitation was extended to Trinidad and Tobago.




Even after JUHN Scarfy spend he bousands to check he heart dey? Nah man!

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Postby redmanjp » March 21st, 2019, 1:26 am

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/435029-as-russia-collusion-fades-ukrainian-plot-to-help-clinton-emerges

As Russia collusion fades, Ukrainian plot to help Clinton emerges
BY JOHN SOLOMON, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 03/20/19 07:30 PM EDT

After nearly three years and millions of tax dollars, the Trump-Russia collusion probe is about to be resolved. Emerging in its place is newly unearthed evidence suggesting another foreign effort to influence the 2016 election — this time, in favor of the Democrats.

Ukraine’s top prosecutor divulged in an interview aired Wednesday on Hill.TV that he has opened an investigation into whether his country’s law enforcement apparatus intentionally leaked financial records during the 2016 U.S. presidential campaign about then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort in an effort to sway the election in favor of Hillary Clinton.

The leak of the so-called “black ledger” files to U.S. media prompted Manafort’s resignation from the Trump campaign and gave rise to one of the key allegations in the Russia collusion probe that has dogged Trump for the last two and a half years.

Ukraine Prosecutor General Yurii Lutsenko’s probe was prompted by a Ukrainian parliamentarian's release of a tape recording purporting to quote a top law enforcement official as saying his agency leaked the Manafort financial records to help Clinton's campaign.

The parliamentarian also secured a court ruling that the leak amounted to “an illegal intrusion into the American election campaign,” Lutsenko told me. Lutsenko said the tape recording is a serious enough allegation to warrant opening a probe, and one of his concerns is that the Ukrainian law enforcement agency involved had frequent contact with the Obama administration’s U.S. embassy in Kiev at the time.

“Today we will launch a criminal investigation about this and we will give legal assessment of this information,” Lutsenko told me.

Lutsenko, before becoming prosecutor general, was a major activist against Russia’s influence in his country during the tenure of Moscow-allied former president Viktor Yanukovych. He became chief prosecutor in 2016 as part of anti-corruption reforms instituted by current President Petro Poroshenko, an ally of the U.S. and Western countries.

Unlike the breathless start to the Russia collusion allegations — in which politicians and news media alike declared a Watergate-sized crisis before the evidence was fully investigated — the Ukraine revelations deserve to be investigated before being accepted.

After all, Ukraine is dogged by rampant corruption. It is a frequent target of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s dirty tricks. And it is a country that, just last year, faked a journalist's death for one day, reportedly to thwart an assassination plot.

But the chief prosecutor, a member of parliament and a court seemingly have enough weight to warrant serious scrutiny of their allegations and an analysis of the audio tape.

Furthermore, the mystery of how the Manafort "black ledger" files got leaked to American media has never been solved. They surfaced two years after the FBI investigated Manafort over his Ukraine business activities but declined to move forward in 2014 for lack of evidence.

We now have strong evidence that retired British spy Christopher Steele began his quest in what ultimately became the infamous Russia collusion dossier with a series of conversations with top Department of Justice (DOJ) official Bruce Ohr between December 2015 and February 2016, about securing evidence against Manafort.

We know the FBI set up shop in the U.S. embassy in Kiev to assist its Ukraine/Manafort inquiry — a common practice on foreign-based probes — while using Steele as an informant at the start of its Russia probe. And we know Clinton’s campaign was using a law firm to pay an opposition research firm for Steele’s work in an effort to stop Trump from winning the presidency, at the same time Steele was aiding the FBI.

Those intersections, coupled with the new allegations by Ukraine’s top prosecutor, are reason enough to warrant a serious, thorough investigation.

If Ukraine law enforcement figures who worked frequently with the U.S. embassy did leak the Manafort documents in an effort to influence the American election for Clinton, the public deserves to know who knew what, and when.

Lutsenko’s interview with Hill.TV raises another troubling dynamic: The U.S. embassy and the chief Ukrainian prosecutor, who America entrusts with fighting corruption inside an allied country, currently have a dysfunctional relationship.

In our interview, Lutsenko accused the Obama-era U.S. embassy in 2016 of interfering in his ability to prosecute corruption cases, saying the U.S. ambassador gave him a list of defendants that he would not be allowed to pursue and then refused to cooperate in an early investigation into the alleged misappropriation of U.S. aid in Ukraine.

Lutsenko provided me with a letter from the embassy, supporting part of his story by showing that a U.S. official did in fact ask him to stand down on the misappropriation-of-funds case. “We are gravely concerned about this investigation for which we see no basis,” an embassy official named George Kent wrote to the prosecutor’s office.



The State Department on Wednesday issued a statement declaring that it no longer financially supports Lutsenko’s office in its corruption-fighting mission and considers his allegation about the do-not-prosecute list “an outright fabrication.”

My reporting, however, indicates Lutsenko isn’t the only person complaining about the U.S. embassy in Kiev.

Last year, when he served as House Rules Committee chairman, Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Texas) wrote a private letter asking Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to recall the current U.S. ambassador, alleging that she made disparaging statements about President Trump.



The ambassador “has spoken privately and repeatedly about her disdain for the current administration in a way that might call for the expulsion” of America’s top diplomat in Ukraine, Sessions wrote.

Such dysfunction does not benefit either country, especially when Russia is lurking around the corner, hoping to regain its influence in the former Soviet republic.

Investigating what's going on in the U.S. embassy in Kiev, and whether elements in Ukraine tried to influence the 2016 U.S. election to help Clinton, are essential steps to rebooting a key relationship.

John Solomon is an award-winning investigative journalist whose work over the years has exposed U.S. and FBI intelligence failures before the Sept. 11 attacks, federal scientists’ misuse of foster children and veterans in drug experiments, and numerous cases of political corruption. He serves as an investigative columnist and executive vice president for video at The Hill.


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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby De Dragon » March 21st, 2019, 5:37 am

redmanjp wrote:https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/will-democrats-finally-admit-the-obama-doj-and-fbi-lied-to-the-fisa-court

Will Democrats finally admit the Obama DOJ and FBI lied to the FISA court?
by Margot Cleveland
| March 20, 2019 01:06 PM

The recently released transcript of Department of Justice lawyer Bruce Ohr’s congressional testimony confirms what conservatives have long been saying: The DOJ and FBI abused the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act process to obtain a court order to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.

Page served as a volunteer foreign policy adviser for then-presidential candidate Trump from March 2016 until he stepped away from the Trump campaign in late-September 2016, following a Yahoo News report that U.S. intelligence officials were investigating alleged meetings between Page and senior Russian officials. Shortly after Isikoff’s article ran, the DOJ and FBI filed the first of four FISA applications, seeking court approval to surveil Page. The FISA court granted all four surveillance requests.

While the FISA applications remained sealed before the secret FISA court, in early February 2018, then-House Intelligence Committee Devin Nunes, R-Calif., released a four-page memo detailing abuse by the DOJ and FBI in seeking to surveil Page. Then-House Intelligence Ranking Member Adam Schiff, D-Calif., soon countered with his own memo, which did nothing to dispel concerns. Later, the four FISA applications themselves were released which, though heavily redacted, added to the mosaic of abuse.



As the media so often say, conservatives pounced. “Look,” they seethed, “at the government’s abuse of power.” The list was long and the evidence strong. The DOJ and FBI sought a court order to surveil an American citizen based on the unverified, and largely unbelievable, ramblings of the Steele dossier. As evidence of a supposed crime, the FISA applications relied solely on double or triple hearsay from unverified sources.

The FISA applications also failed to inform the court that the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign had partially funded the Steele dossier. Also missing from the applications was any mention of dossier author and former MI6 agent Christopher Steele’s statements demonstrating his bias, such as that Steele was “desperate” to prevent Trump from becoming president.

As new facts continued to emerge over the last year, more signs of abuse appeared. For instance, while the FBI acknowledged interviewing former Trump adviser George Papadopoulos twice and Papadopoulos’ supposed Russian-connection, Joseph Mifsud, once, the FISA applications did not appear to be updated to inform the court of these interviews or the details gleaned from the FBI’s chats with the duo.


We also learned that Trisha Anderson, the deputy general counsel for the FBI, did not read the FISA application for Page before signing off on it. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein also apparently signed the final FISA renewal application without reading it and without being fully briefed on the details.

Notwithstanding this overwhelming evidence of FISA abuse, Democrats continued to reject suggestions that the DOJ and FBI acted inappropriately in conducting the Russia collusion investigation. But now we have solid evidence establishing that the FISA applications, sworn to by multiple Obama Administration officials and career DOJ and FBI agents, included at least one false statement: The FISA applications expressly stated that the FBI had “suspended its relationship with” Christopher Steele.

The recently released transcript of the testimony before the House Judiciary Committee of DOJ lawyer Bruce Ohr refutes this statement. Ohr testified that after Steele’s supposed suspension, the former British spy continued to pass intel on to the FBI using Ohr as the conduit. The FBI not only knew of this arrangement, but helped further this work-around by providing Ohr a dedicated agent to whom he could pass on Steele’s latest gossip, making the government’s representation to the FISA court that the FBI had suspended its relationship with Steele untrue.

So, the question is: Will Democrats finally admit to the FISA abuse that is plain for all to see?

Stopped reading at this point as Nunes is a proven liar, who was making not so secret visits to keep Trump informed of the progress of the then GOP "investigation" of the Russian collusion allegation.
He is also presently suing Twitter for accounts Devin Nunes Mom, and Devin Nunes Cow :lol: for defamation, so he is also quite stupid and irrational.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby redmanjp » March 21st, 2019, 11:17 am

wondering if there's any truth to these posts

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Postby The_Honourable » March 22nd, 2019, 5:54 pm

Robert Mueller's report delivered to U.S. attorney general

Report, still confidential, sets the stage for big public fights to come

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Special counsel Robert Mueller on Friday turned over his long-awaited final report on the contentious Russia investigation that has cast a dark shadow over Donald Trump's presidency, entangled Trump's family and resulted in criminal charges against some of the president's closest associates.

The comprehensive report, still confidential, marks the end of Mueller's probe but sets the stage for big public fights to come. The next steps are up to Trump's attorney general, to Congress and, in all likelihood, federal courts.

The Justice Department said Mueller delivered his final report to U.S. Attorney General William Barr and officially concluded his probe of Russian election interference and possible co-ordination with Trump associates. The report will now be reviewed by Barr, who has said he will write his own account communicating Mueller's findings to Congress and the American public.

Barr said he could send his account to Congress quickly.

"I am reviewing the report and anticipate that I may be in a position to advise you of the special counsel's principal conclusions as soon as this weekend," Barr said in his letter the top Republicans and Democrats on the House and Senate Judiciary committees.

With no details released at this point, it's not known whether Mueller's report answers the core questions of his investigation: Did Trump's campaign collude with the Kremlin to sway the 2016 presidential election in favour of the celebrity businessman? Also, did Trump take steps later, including by firing his FBI director, to obstruct the probe?

But the delivery of the report does mean the investigation has concluded without any public charges of a criminal conspiracy between the campaign and Russia, or of obstruction by the president.

It's unclear what steps Mueller will take if he uncovered what he believes to be criminal wrongdoing by Trump, in light of Justice Department legal opinions that have held that sitting presidents may not be indicted.

The mere delivery of a confidential report will set off immediate demands, including in the Democratic-led House, for full release of Mueller's findings. Barr has said he wants to make as much public as possible, and any efforts to withhold details will prompt a tussle between the Justice Department and lawmakers who may subpoena Mueller and his investigators to testify before Congress. Such a move by Democrats would likely be vigorously contested by the Trump administration.

The conclusion of Mueller's investigation does not remove legal peril for the president. Trump faces a separate Justice Department investigation in New York into hush money payments during the campaign to two women who say they had sex with him years before the election. He's also been implicated in a potential campaign finance violation by his former lawyer, Michael Cohen, who says Trump asked him to arrange the transactions. Federal prosecutors, also in New York, have been investigating foreign contributions made to the president's inaugural committee.

No matter the findings in Mueller's report, the investigation has already illuminated Russia's assault on the American political system, painted the Trump campaign as eager to exploit the release of hacked Democratic emails and exposed lies by Trump aides aimed at covering up their Russia-related contacts. Over the 21-month investigation, Mueller has brought charges against 34 people, including six aides and advisers to the president, and three companies.

The special counsel brought a sweeping indictment accusing Russian military intelligence officers of hacking Democrat Hillary Clinton's campaign and other Democratic groups during the 2016 election. He charged another group of Russians with carrying out a large-scale social media disinformation campaign against the American political process that also sought to help Trump and hurt Clinton.

Closer to the president, Mueller secured convictions against a campaign chairman who cheated banks and dodged his taxes, a national security adviser who lied about his Russian contacts and a campaign aide who misled the FBI about his knowledge of stolen emails.

Cohen, the president's former lawyer, pleaded guilty in New York to campaign finance violations arising from the hush money payments and in the Mueller probe to lying to Congress about a Moscow real estate deal. Another Trump confidant, Roger Stone, is awaiting trial on charges that he lied about his pursuit of Russian-hacked emails ultimately released by WikiLeaks. It's unclear whether any of the aides who have been convicted, all of whom have pleaded guilty and co-operated with the investigators, might angle for a pardon. Trump has left open the idea of pardons.

Along the way, Trump lawyers and advisers repeatedly evolved their public defenses to deal with the onslaught of allegations from the investigation. Where once Trump and his aides had maintained that there were no connections between the campaign and Russia, by the end of the probe Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani was routinely making the argument that even if the two sides did collude, it wasn't necessarily a crime. The goalpost shifting reflected the administration's challenge in adopting a singular narrative to fend off allegations.

Equally central to Mueller's work is his inquiry into whether the president tried to obstruct the investigation. Since the special counsel's appointment in May 2017, Trump has increasingly tried to undermine the probe by calling it a "witch hunt" and repeatedly proclaiming there was "NO COLLUSION" with Russia. But Trump also took certain acts as president that caught Mueller's attention and have been scrutinized for possible obstruction.

One week before Mueller's appointment, Trump fired FBI Director James Comey, later saying he was thinking of "this Russia thing" at the time.

He mercilessly harangued Attorney General Jeff Sessions for recusing from the Russia investigation two months before Mueller was named special counsel, a move that left the president without a perceived loyalist atop the probe. And he helped draft a misleading statement on Air Force One as a Trump Tower meeting between his eldest son and a Kremlin-connected lawyer was about to become public.

The meeting itself became part of Mueller's investigation, entangling Donald Trump Jr. in the probe. Mueller's team also interviewed the president's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, multiple times.

Even as Trump blasted Mueller's team, his White House and campaign produced thousands of documents for the special counsel, and dozens of his aides were interviewed. The president submitted written answers to Mueller regarding the Russia investigation, but he refused to be interviewed.

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Postby redmanjp » March 24th, 2019, 3:05 pm

No collusion. No indictments. Dems going to be disappointed.

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Postby The_Honourable » March 24th, 2019, 3:13 pm

Congress expects Sunday evening briefing on Mueller report findings

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The Department of Justice notified the House Judiciary Committee that it can expect to receive a written summary of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigative conclusions by Sunday at 5 p.m., a lawmaker on the panel told The Hill.

News of the briefing comes after Attorney General William Barr notified lawmakers on the House and Senate Judiciary panels Friday evening that he could be ready to brief lawmakers as soon as this weekend on the “principal conclusions” reached by Mueller in his sprawling 22-month probe.

Since the announcement, a high-level of intrigue has surrounded what the findings could be, but it has also had Congress and the White House bracing for whatever possible the conclusions the report may have.

Lawmakers have urged the Department of Justice to quickly make as much information from the report available to Congress and the public, with some indicating that they will fight to gain access to the underlying evidence that support's Mueller's findings.

The White House said Friday that President Trump, who has been traveling this weekend, has not been briefed on the report's findings.

Source: https://thehill.com/policy/national-sec ... t-findings

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby shogun » March 24th, 2019, 3:51 pm

redmanjp wrote:No collusion. No indictments. Dems going to be disappointed.


Lmao.

As expected, the Trump dummies ready to celebrate without reading the play. :lol:

Mueller did exactly was he was supposed to do within the limitations of the scope of his investigation. Problem though, is that while Trump's campaign clearly were cooperating/coordinating with the Russian push to defeat Hillary and swamp the social media with Anti-Democratic party/Anti- Hillary rhetoric, with help from GRU online attacks, (his call on the campaign stage to Russia to "release Hillary's emails" and frequent references to Wikileaks comes to mind) Meet with Russian operatives and use information from a foreign hostile nation to win an election. Mueller knows fully well that while that was almost treasonous, wrong and maybe even impeachable, it might not have been CRIMINAL, or easily provable. Which IS the purview and mandate, of his investigation. He was smart to not seek indictments on Trump, Don Jr, or any of his immediate family and putting himself squarely in the middle of a MESS that frankly the Republicans in the Senate would fight him tooth and nail on. Trump's problems are still ongoing and increasing though. Mueller's move to hand off aspects of the investigation to SDNY investigators (who Trump can't easily get to) was one CLEAR telling sign. Even with all we NOW know of Nixon's corruption, and the many degenerates that defended him at the time, (Republicans again) he was NEVER charged with those crimes. It took a common crook Nixon hired to break into the Democratic offices, to finally get him impeached.... and YEARS before evidence of all his criminal conduct to surface. Trump is still the President of the United States inno. But keep saying "no collusion" like a good little parakeet. :lol: And stay tuned...

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Postby bluefete » March 24th, 2019, 3:56 pm

Mueller Summary:

https://games-cdn.washingtonpost.com/no ... b1a89e.pdf

No evidence of collusion with Russia.

Obstruction of Justice - Still open. Could go either way.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby matr1x » March 24th, 2019, 4:09 pm

American ppl have no idea how they dodge a bullet. If Hillary got through, it would have been the 4th reich

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Postby The_Honourable » March 24th, 2019, 4:09 pm

oh shhuuuxxxxxx :lol: After ALL that...

Somber mood at MSNBC and CNN... so they focusing on the grey obstruction part :lol:

At least people made money for the past 2 years with this russia conspiracy.

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Postby bluefete » March 24th, 2019, 4:11 pm

The bigger picture is that there are a whole series of investigations being conducted by different agencies.

Trump will have to seriously lawyer up whenever he demits office.

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Postby The_Honourable » March 24th, 2019, 4:29 pm

bluefete wrote:The bigger picture is that there are a whole series of investigations being conducted by different agencies.

Trump will have to seriously lawyer up whenever he demits office.


Well that is what the left is going to focus on now. Some believe that these separate investigations were started in case the Mueller investigation didn't go their way so that it would dog him all the way into 2020.

Since the Russia Conspiracy, which is the core of everything is now proven to be false, there is the possibility that the public will think that all the other side investigations are really witch-hunts.

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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby shogun » March 24th, 2019, 5:23 pm

bluefete wrote:The bigger picture is that there are a whole series of investigations being conducted by different agencies.

Trump will have to seriously lawyer up whenever he demits office.



Oh Gorsh! let the Trumplings have their moment nuh? Been a while for them. Bigger picture? From Tuner's right-wingers? :lol:

Watch for these same people to be distancing themselves from their comments in the future. Kinda like le Honourable no longer posting/praising the "Dear Leader" on his North Korea success. :lol:

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Postby The_Honourable » March 24th, 2019, 5:47 pm

shogun wrote:
bluefete wrote:The bigger picture is that there are a whole series of investigations being conducted by different agencies.

Trump will have to seriously lawyer up whenever he demits office.



Oh Gorsh! let the Trumplings have their moment nuh? Been a while for them. Bigger picture? From Tuner's right-wingers? :lol:

Watch for these same people to be distancing themselves from their comments in the future. Kinda like le Honourable no longer posting/praising Dear Leader Trump on North Korea. :lol:


lol watch yuh... :lol:

I was and will post about that, is just ED took over the ched busy courting you :lol:

So where's the next hope? The southern district investigation featuring stormy daniels? LOL

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Postby shogun » March 24th, 2019, 6:14 pm

The_Honourable wrote:I was and will post about that, is just ED took over the ched busy courting you :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

From gloat to excuse peddling, yes. Careful you eff up yuh transmission inno?

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Postby shogun » March 24th, 2019, 6:19 pm

The_Honourable wrote:Well that is what the left is going to focus on now. Some believe that these separate investigations were started in case the Mueller investigation didn't go their way so that it would dog him all the way into 2020.


:lol:

Just watch the lengths they have to go to convince themselves.

You're aware that Mueller is a lifelong Republican, i hope? And that HE personally had those investigations NOT under his purview handed off? So who are you referring to when you say "these investigations were started because it wasn't going THEIR way?" The left had nothing to do with that? Damn, the left has been busy? These conspiracies are golden. :lol:

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » March 24th, 2019, 8:29 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

So now Muller is a Trump supporter according to all the Libtards even tho New York Times readers all commended him on a Job well done ROFL AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

So tell me now De Dragon and Shogun where is the collusion? you said Trump was a agent of Putin and he colluded you specifically told me that all the media outlets can't possibly be wrong about this.

They even made a SubReddit about this AHHAHAHA

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_MuellerMeltdown/

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Imagine for over 2 years people actually believed all the fake news about Russia collusion was real LMFAO

Doh worry the Mainstream Media will direct their Fake News to the next best thing, drumming up support to Invade / Bomb Venezuela and all the libtards like De Dragon and Shogun will eat it up just like how they ate it up when Obama dropped endless bombs on civilians in the middle east, turned Libya into a free for all slave trade market and funded ISIS in Syria. Or as he called it "moderate rebels"


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Re: All Things US Politics Related in a Trump run White House.

Postby The_Honourable » March 24th, 2019, 9:23 pm

shogun wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:Well that is what the left is going to focus on now. Some believe that these separate investigations were started in case the Mueller investigation didn't go their way so that it would dog him all the way into 2020.


:lol:

Just watch the lengths they have to go to convince themselves.

You're aware that Mueller is a lifelong Republican, i hope? And that HE personally had those investigations NOT under his purview handed off? So who are you referring to when you say "their way?" Democrats had nothing to do with that? These conspiracies are golden. :lol:

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Yes the conspiracies that MSNBC and CNN peddle for 2 years are golden indeed :lol:

Come nah man Shogun, i know you not thinking straight and probably in a lil denial after that Mueller bomb drop. Their way meaning the democrats way. They were hoping the Mueller Report would have sink Trump which meant sure impeachment. Now they are hoping for these other investigations to be fruitful so they can impeach or at least use for 2020. They also having hopes on the word "exonerate" from the report to justify more investigations.

Collusion failed, so what now? Obstruction? and Cover up? :lol:

Sign up and give me money so i can go after Trump and the Mueller Report? LOL!

2020 is going to be interesting.

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » March 24th, 2019, 9:41 pm

^ Boy the Dems going to get rape at the polls in 2020, the fact that all of this turned out to be one giant HOAX and Fake News just proves the point of majority of people who has continuously said the media cannot be trusted. What is going to happen now is more and more people will seek out their news from independent journalists online which happens to be either Pro Liberal Progressive or Pro Conservative Libertarians, neither of which are for the democrat / republican establishment. But who will Vote Trump or abstain from voting for the Dems

somebody should check on De Dragon just incase he commit suicide after telling me for years that Trump colluded with Russia and one set ah assness. He and Rachel Mad Cow from MSNBC



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Postby shogun » March 24th, 2019, 11:30 pm

The_Honourable wrote:Yes the conspiracies that MSNBC and CNN peddle for 2 years are golden indeed :lol:

Come nah man Shogun, i know you not thinking straight and probably in a lil denial after that Mueller bomb drop. Their way meaning the democrats way. They were hoping the Mueller Report would have sink Trump which meant sure impeachment. Now they are hoping for these other investigations to be fruitful so they can impeach or at least use for 2020. They also having hopes on the word "exonerate" from the report to justify more investigations.

Collusion failed, so what now? Obstruction? and Cover up? :lol:

Sign up and give me money so i can go after Trump and the Mueller Report? LOL!

2020 is going to be interesting.


:lol: :lol:

When bluefete's chess game is better than yours, you know you're in trouble. The amount of convoluted garble you typed there is a humorous read. You damn well know you're not making much sense inno? Go back and reread the nonsense you typed in that previous post. Also, I asked a serious question and thaz the best you could reply with hours later? You opted for the Ole faithful "iz MSNBC and CNN fault" BS?? Two 24 hour media outlets who's single operative is to cover, editorialize ad-nauseum about any story that gets traction? Especially when both those very networks (especially CNN) also covered the Clinton Foundation, email gate, Uranium One, Hillary's Parkinson's, Seth Rich and every other Republican manufactured NON stories, for the last 4/5 years? And which brought absolutely ZERO payoff for Republicans? :lol: Not ONE single solitary indictment and cost the US taxpayers millions of dollars?... not ONE. Where was your indignation then? Then you have the nerve to say I'M not "thinking straight?" :lol: How long you practice that one in the mirror, right winger? Youi fail to realize that Manafort and Gates were on the FBI's radar long before Trump's campaign.... and when Trump decided to bring them into his campaign, it raised alarm bells with the intelligence community? Or maybe you just fully well know that, but know it won't fit into that narrative in your head? Look, I know you're trying to save face, but it not the left's fault that you people on the right have a penchant for getting infatuated with terrible leaders.

Failure? lol. If Trump had just left Comey alone and quietly move him, when a convenient time arose and then not simultaneously gone on national television and say he fired Comey because of the "Russia thing" he could have avoided this whole thing. Now investigators have tentacles into almost all of his affairs. Yup, total fail. :lol:

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Postby matr1x » March 24th, 2019, 11:49 pm

All the time Hillary and AOC thought they had trump by the balls. Little did they know, all they were doing was fondling his scrotum

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Postby The_Honourable » March 25th, 2019, 2:08 am

shogun wrote: :lol: :lol:

When bluefete's chess game is better than yours, you know you're in trouble. The amount of convoluted garble you typed there is a humorous read. You damn well know you're not making much sense inno? Go back and reread the nonsense you typed in that previous post. Also, I asked a serious question and thaz the best you could reply with hours later? You opted for the Ole faithful "iz MSNBC and CNN fault" BS?? Two 24 hour media outlets who's single operative is to cover, editorialize ad-nauseum about any story that gets traction? Especially when both those very networks (especially CNN) also covered the Clinton Foundation, email gate, Uranium One, Hillary's Parkinson's, Seth Rich and every other Republican manufactured NON stories, for the last 4/5 years? And which brought absolutely ZERO payoff for Republicans? :lol: Not ONE single solitary indictment and cost the US taxpayers millions of dollars?... not ONE. Where was your indignation then? Then you have the nerve to say I'M not "thinking straight?" :lol: How long you practice that one in the mirror, right winger? Youi fail to realize that Manafort and Gates were on the FBI's radar long before Trump's campaign.... and when Trump decided to bring them into his campaign, it raised alarm bells with the intelligence community? Or maybe you just fully well know that, but know it won't fit into that narrative in your head? Look, I know you're trying to save face, but it not the left's fault that you people on the right have a penchant for getting infatuated with terrible leaders.

Failure? lol. If Trump had just left Comey alone and quietly move him, when a convenient time arose and then not simultaneously gone on national television and say he fired Comey because of the "Russia thing" he could have avoided this whole thing. Now investigators have tentacles into almost all of his affairs. Yup, total fail. :lol:


I'm not making sense? I explained it to you. You just don't want to believe you got hyped up for the past two years for NOTHING. It's like those folks who hyped up themselves that going into Iraq was the right decision only to find out it had no weapons of mass destruction :lol:

All the cases you called, did CNN mention it? Yes of course. Was it to the degree of coverage that Trump and the russia investigation was getting for the past two years? HELL NO. Oct 2018 Article: https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... -coverage/

Save face!? Here you are, typical shogun, sat down and watch msnbc, cnn or some online leftist youtube videos like vox or buzzfeed so you can come here and type the level of jackassry as a rebuttal to pretend you know better and deflect from the fact that there was NO COLLUSION with Russia. Pure failure on your part. Maybe the southern district investigation will make you feel better? like if most americans will care about stormy daniels in 2020.

Btw, don't talk about playing chess, you have better luck playing with yourself :fadein:

Now it's on to elections 2020!

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Postby sMASH » March 25th, 2019, 8:16 am

why the collusion thing is... was useless, is that, how small, how far does things have to go for it to be called collusion? what if trump had tweeted 'hillary is a bad candidate' and kim jon ill replied 'yeah' that would be considered collusion given how they react.

collusion/meddling should be like workign together to put fake ballots, or remove legit ballots, tampering with the election equipment, interfering/obstructing persons from their campaign work, etc.
but talking about or sending ads, is not meddling. thats improper seeing as its another separate soverign country, but not collusion/meddling.
and in that same breath, they have to consider how they stand out and recognize huwan guido as president of venezuela. hypocracy

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Postby redmanjp » March 25th, 2019, 12:01 pm

The other side will now be investigated

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Postby The_Honourable » March 25th, 2019, 2:27 pm

redmanjp wrote:


So Avenatti got arrested for reasons that he accused Trump of?

K :lol:

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » March 25th, 2019, 6:16 pm

Where De Dragon he still in hiding after his nasty stinking lies all fell apart?

Atleast Shogun trying to save face by making up nonsense and pulling sh!t out of he arse so he deserves credit.

This sh!t is just hilarious how all of this was proven to be exactly what it was for 2 years, FAKE NEWS.

Lets see how long it takes Rachel Mad Cow to start pushing war with Venezuela.


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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » March 25th, 2019, 9:00 pm

Hilarious even Trevor Noah has apologized for spreading fake news about this Russia nonsense LOL

Was expecting his apology to be a joke or not sincere, but props to him for apologizing for spreading fake news for 2 years


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