PNM in Gov't(2015-2020)

[De Dragon]

cnc3 news jes say d poo nm having a tobago cabinet retreat this friday

what they gonna discuss - how to finish teef out d treasury & 4kup d country even more ? ......

Two election years coming up...so yuh know money going and pelt out....say no more

Dem going 'cross on de Galleons?
Anywhere JUHN Scarfy could work on his handicap, or his golf game is good for a retreat I guess

[sMASH]

eh, toruba stadium going and pull a lil change for the CPL...
nice nice.. trying to bring in the bacon.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

eh, toruba stadium going and pull a lil change for the CPL...
nice nice.. trying to bring in the bacon.

Yuh know they would never come out and say that stadium cannot host any of the t20 games for the world cup later this year.

[randolphinshan]

eh, toruba stadium going and pull a lil change for the CPL...
nice nice.. trying to bring in the bacon.

Yuh know they would never come out and say that stadium cannot host any of the t20 games for the world cup later this year.

Fcuk t20 games , cpl 20/20 ftw.

[De Dragon]

eh, toruba stadium going and pull a lil change for the CPL...
nice nice.. trying to bring in the bacon.

Yuh know they would never come out and say that stadium cannot host any of the t20 games for the world cup later this year.

Fcuk t20 games , cpl 20/20 ftw.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

eh, toruba stadium going and pull a lil change for the CPL...
nice nice.. trying to bring in the bacon.

Yuh know they would never come out and say that stadium cannot host any of the t20 games for the world cup later this year.

Fcuk t20 games , cpl 20/20 ftw.

Boy you really chupid yes

[De Dragon]

eh, toruba stadium going and pull a lil change for the CPL...
nice nice.. trying to bring in the bacon.

Yuh know they would never come out and say that stadium cannot host any of the t20 games for the world cup later this year.

Fcuk t20 games , cpl 20/20 ftw.

Boy you really chupid yes

[PariaMan]

Let's hate the Brian Lara Stadium because it was built by a government we did not vote for

[sMASH]

NO!


probably the unc supporters had that reason to hate it( even though its them self that rushed for the cricket it had there)

there were two main reasons why the toruba stadium was not a good idea.

the first was because it was to be a mega structure with mega spending. no problem with that except that we didnt need then, (and still dont now) ultimate structures to host highest level events. what WAS/IS needed is that same investment but into the sports at the lowest levels. to foster the unknown talents, throughout the land and give them an opportunity to shine and be identified. one or two giant stadiums would not be available for many people, as comapared to if u had many rural sites developed and maintained.

the second reason, was the amount was to be spent was too much, and when factoring delays, setbacks, overuns, the cost would have become even more ludicrous. a guesstimate of overuns for that stadium was bombastic at 600 to 700 million dollars. but it went far past a billion dollars.


it wasnt the best application of the money, and knowing the regime at the time, we knew it would not be even close to the estimate. but the expected over runs was way conservative for the actual figure.




why hate it now?

we dont actually hate IT, we hate the money spent on it. at this time we were being told that the country is strapped for cash and we have to cut costs, and while we hearing that in some news, the other news had 3 million spent on paintings, and 90 million(overrun past 100 million) on renovating it.
np in renovating it, if we can afford it, and if it was bringing cash.

so, we spending money we dont have on sumting that would not bring in any revenue, and even worse, will require money to maintain it.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

I hate the fact that you spend so much on a cricket ground like that...and the ICC has not approved it...that's my hate...pure bs

[sMASH]

Is like that and aripo project is like financial mcguffins for this admin

[Dizzy28]

Is like that and aripo project is like financial mcguffins for this admin

Well technically its not this administration. Its the current Party that is in Administration now in a previous administration.

[PariaMan]

It's already built we find it was money badly spent plus we have to pay to maintain it

Let's break it down or boycott it or sabotage it to prove that point

We cannot try for it to be a success because that would prove us wrong

We have to operate like a first world country

[sMASH]

^^NOOOO. none of the above.

u cant spend champagne money with mauby pocket.

all i was saying, was to not spend anything on the stadium now, let it continue to sit. by 2020 the economy will pick back up, cause america will find some way to create more oil instability for the oil price to go up, and then we woudl have wiggle room to throw away behind these fruitless ventures. just hadda wait a couple years and then u can afford to waste that money.

[Kasey]

It's already built we find it was money badly spent plus we have to pay to maintain it

Let's break it down or boycott it or sabotage it to prove that point

We cannot try for it to be a success because that would prove us wrong

We have to operate like a first world country

If they spent so much money on this, then they should spend money on the MUCH NEEDED Children's Hospital. But that's UNC, so that'll never happen under PNM.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

They would need to sell tickets at $1000 per tkt to even reach close to the $ spent on that facility

[Kasey]

They would need to sell tickets at $1000 per tkt to even reach close to the $ spent on that facility

After factoring in the FINAL cost of the stadium, and the high maintenance costs, the conclusion was drawn, that the Brian Lara stadium, will NEVER be able to repay for itself. That is, EVEN IF they make money on events, it does not equate to profit, because the event money + more goes to exorbitant maintenance costs.

Actually, the best thing (even after all the money spent) is to shut it down, and sell what they can. Because it (maintenance costs) will ALWAYS be a leech on our already down economy.

[Kasey]

I am NOT a UNC fan, but I honestly believe the Children's Hospital was more important. Who disagree.......well take a walk in Emergency section, and the pediatric ward in the current main hospitals. I had the opportunity to see Mt Hope, AND SAN FERNANDO (Not Port of Spain yet). I was EXTREMMLY blown away by the conditions our children face there. Its sad, really sad, but say what. PNM thinks the stadium is more important, and that's all that matters.

[Rovin]

this shud be obvious but T&T govts come\go & they each build white elephants to "benefit d ppl" but is really to repay party financiers & themselves 10 fold

its a way of always "eatin ah food" since u have expenses repairing & maintaining it


nobody does really take into account if it will repay for itself in a reasonable period ....

[Kasey]

White elephant or not, and politics and race aside, SERIOUSLY, THE BOTTOM LINE is that the Children's Hospital will benefit the citizens more than another stadium.

[PariaMan]

White elephant or not, and politics and race aside, SERIOUSLY, THE BOTTOM LINE is that the Children's Hospital will benefit the citizens more than another stadium.

Agreed but the stadium done built so what do we do now ? Boycott it ?

[shake d livin wake d dead]

White elephant or not, and politics and race aside, SERIOUSLY, THE BOTTOM LINE is that the Children's Hospital will benefit the citizens more than another stadium.

Agreed but the stadium done built so what do we do now ? Boycott it ?

do what is necessary and make the stadium available to host international games...simple as that

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Budget talks in the air....what to expect

[Chimera]

I am NOT a UNC fan, but I honestly believe the Children's Hospital was more important. Who disagree.......well take a walk in Emergency section, and the pediatric ward in the current main hospitals. I had the opportunity to see Mt Hope, AND SAN FERNANDO (Not Port of Spain yet). I was EXTREMMLY blown away by the conditions our children face there. Its sad, really sad, but say what. PNM thinks the stadium is more important, and that's all that matters.

what you comparing it to tho?

to say the conditions here shitty? (which i agree with, but the places that have better conditions abroad/locally are where you spend hundreds or thousands per night)

freeness comes with a price

[sMASH]

White elephant or not, and politics and race aside, SERIOUSLY, THE BOTTOM LINE is that the Children's Hospital will benefit the citizens more than another stadium.

Agreed but the stadium done built so what do we do now ? Boycott it ?

do what is necessary and make the stadium available to host international games...simple as that

But then international events ghosting ur venue...

[kstt]

https://newsday.co.tt/2018/08/11/dr-rowley-will-win/

[hydroep]

^Sad to say but that poll is spot on.

As things stand it's better to leave Sh!tkicker right there yes. Anyone else coming into the job will have to clean up the mess he and his band of incompetents have made, and yuh know all dem Sh!tlickers who quiet now go come out in force to blame any new administration for the country's problems.

So let him deal with the fallout. With any luck his own supporters will eat him alive...

[shake d livin wake d dead]

^Sad to say but that poll is spot on.

As things stand it's better to leave Sh!tkicker right there yes. Anyone else coming into the job will have to clean up the mess he and his band of incompetents have made, and yuh know all dem Sh!tlickers who quiet now go come out in force to blame any new administration for the country's problems.

So let him deal with the fallout. With any luck his own supporters will eat him alive...

Winning the internal election is a no brainer...easy win for him....the general would depend on what goes on in the locals next year..

[zoom rader]

PNM internal election is off no concern, it's a fixed and a gimmick

[sMASH]

PNM internal election is off no concern, it's a fixed and a gimmick

Die hards brains is a gimmick