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crazybalhead wrote:ProtonPowder wrote:crazybalhead wrote:ProtonPowder wrote:zoom rader wrote:I read what imbert wrote, I think it was a staged PNM Public relation excersize .
But all in all its really an injun tax.
We know that no one in beetham and laventille will get taxed and in the other PNM hot spots areas.
This tax will lead to ppl not improving their homes or doing mods to it.
These valuations will be done by PNM ppl and mostly likely they will have an unspoken mandate to tax injuns higher
you going to be so surprised when you actually see who the assessors are
and the valuers
and the deputy COV
and the COV himself
Not really.
so you know that they are majority indians then?
Sigh...is Ric you talking about sir?
De Dragon wrote:So a prayer room should be open and uncovered? The point is, a prayer room should not be taxed at all, once it is verified as such since no one else will be affected by this.
ProtonPowder wrote:De Dragon wrote:So a prayer room should be open and uncovered? The point is, a prayer room should not be taxed at all, once it is verified as such since no one else will be affected by this.
I giving you the exact rate for an enclosed and covered structure apart from the house. I eh telling you how to build it.
Voiding any area of a private residence is much more headache than it is worth. Anybody could claim anything is a prayer room. No assessor will go inside a house or closed structure, so your entire house could be a prayer room at that point.
And how would one even prove that they are of a religion which requires a prayer room?
Should a note from the pundit be sought?
The best way to deal with this is to separate church from state entirely and treat everyone as equal before this law.
De Dragon wrote:ProtonPowder wrote:De Dragon wrote:So a prayer room should be open and uncovered? The point is, a prayer room should not be taxed at all, once it is verified as such since no one else will be affected by this.
I giving you the exact rate for an enclosed and covered structure apart from the house. I eh telling you how to build it.
Voiding any area of a private residence is much more headache than it is worth. Anybody could claim anything is a prayer room. No assessor will go inside a house or closed structure, so your entire house could be a prayer room at that point.
And how would one even prove that they are of a religion which requires a prayer room?
Should a note from the pundit be sought?
The best way to deal with this is to separate church from state entirely and treat everyone as equal before this law.
Have you ever seen, or been in a Hindu prayer room? I think if you're genuinely claiming a prayer room as such, then you as the homeowner would show the valuator that it is indeed a prayer room with all the items that a prayer room normally has, like murtis etc.
Your "entire house as a prayer room" argument is laughable btw. Anyone seeking an exemption from any tax has to show why they qualify for such, be it annuity statements, tourism investment. It is not dependent on emotion, or because you say/feel so.
Proton power has no Hindu family, he is Indentied as a PNM and his opinion is flawed. He should be in Woodford squareProtonPowder wrote:De Dragon wrote:ProtonPowder wrote:De Dragon wrote:So a prayer room should be open and uncovered? The point is, a prayer room should not be taxed at all, once it is verified as such since no one else will be affected by this.
I giving you the exact rate for an enclosed and covered structure apart from the house. I eh telling you how to build it.
Voiding any area of a private residence is much more headache than it is worth. Anybody could claim anything is a prayer room. No assessor will go inside a house or closed structure, so your entire house could be a prayer room at that point.
And how would one even prove that they are of a religion which requires a prayer room?
Should a note from the pundit be sought?
The best way to deal with this is to separate church from state entirely and treat everyone as equal before this law.
Have you ever seen, or been in a Hindu prayer room? I think if you're genuinely claiming a prayer room as such, then you as the homeowner would show the valuator that it is indeed a prayer room with all the items that a prayer room normally has, like murtis etc.
Your "entire house as a prayer room" argument is laughable btw. Anyone seeking an exemption from any tax has to show why they qualify for such, be it annuity statements, tourism investment. It is not dependent on emotion, or because you say/feel so.
Yes I have been, I have Hindu family.
The underlying question is why should it be exempt. Food and education are also fundamental human rights, but kitchens and studies (for the homes that do have studies) are still taxed.
Where is the line? Serious question, is not as if i just being obtuse for no reason.
Gladiator wrote:WIN WIN WIN.....LOL
ProtonPowder wrote:De Dragon wrote:ProtonPowder wrote:De Dragon wrote:So a prayer room should be open and uncovered? The point is, a prayer room should not be taxed at all, once it is verified as such since no one else will be affected by this.
I giving you the exact rate for an enclosed and covered structure apart from the house. I eh telling you how to build it.
Voiding any area of a private residence is much more headache than it is worth. Anybody could claim anything is a prayer room. No assessor will go inside a house or closed structure, so your entire house could be a prayer room at that point.
And how would one even prove that they are of a religion which requires a prayer room?
Should a note from the pundit be sought?
The best way to deal with this is to separate church from state entirely and treat everyone as equal before this law.
Have you ever seen, or been in a Hindu prayer room? I think if you're genuinely claiming a prayer room as such, then you as the homeowner would show the valuator that it is indeed a prayer room with all the items that a prayer room normally has, like murtis etc.
Your "entire house as a prayer room" argument is laughable btw. Anyone seeking an exemption from any tax has to show why they qualify for such, be it annuity statements, tourism investment. It is not dependent on emotion, or because you say/feel so.
Yes I have been, I have Hindu family.
The underlying question is why should it be exempt. Food and education are also fundamental human rights, but kitchens and studies (for the homes that do have studies) are still taxed.
Where is the line? Serious question, is not as if i just being obtuse for no reason.
zoom rader wrote:Proton power has no Hindu family, he is Indentied as a PNM and his opinion is flawed. He should be in Woodford squareProtonPowder wrote:De Dragon wrote:ProtonPowder wrote:De Dragon wrote:So a prayer room should be open and uncovered? The point is, a prayer room should not be taxed at all, once it is verified as such since no one else will be affected by this.
I giving you the exact rate for an enclosed and covered structure apart from the house. I eh telling you how to build it.
Voiding any area of a private residence is much more headache than it is worth. Anybody could claim anything is a prayer room. No assessor will go inside a house or closed structure, so your entire house could be a prayer room at that point.
And how would one even prove that they are of a religion which requires a prayer room?
Should a note from the pundit be sought?
The best way to deal with this is to separate church from state entirely and treat everyone as equal before this law.
Have you ever seen, or been in a Hindu prayer room? I think if you're genuinely claiming a prayer room as such, then you as the homeowner would show the valuator that it is indeed a prayer room with all the items that a prayer room normally has, like murtis etc.
Your "entire house as a prayer room" argument is laughable btw. Anyone seeking an exemption from any tax has to show why they qualify for such, be it annuity statements, tourism investment. It is not dependent on emotion, or because you say/feel so.
Yes I have been, I have Hindu family.
The underlying question is why should it be exempt. Food and education are also fundamental human rights, but kitchens and studies (for the homes that do have studies) are still taxed.
Where is the line? Serious question, is not as if i just being obtuse for no reason.
sMASH wrote:the lil puja rooms are not a 'rentable' part of the house, or property. it cannot be used to 'generate an income' , it cannot be used as a way to 'store wealth'
the reason to have it, is more or less the same reason why public religious establishments are tax exempt.
is like, if u have a stoosh bathroom, or a simple one, u can adjust ur asking price to suit the value added. but nobody goin and say, well that is a realll nice puja room, so that means u gonna charge a high price for the property. u not going to buy the property cause it has a puja room to die for.
and, instead of installing a Jacuzzi, u decided to put a puja room...
just low.
the only reprieve is that the valuators look at the puja rooms, and say it not valid to be assessed as a separate structure.
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:proton head living in ah hdc development where he does hear when he neighbor making ah bool...them so paying $200 property tax ...if any at all
ProtonPowder wrote:crazybalhead wrote:ProtonPowder wrote:crazybalhead wrote:ProtonPowder wrote:zoom rader wrote:I read what imbert wrote, I think it was a staged PNM Public relation excersize .
But all in all its really an injun tax.
We know that no one in beetham and laventille will get taxed and in the other PNM hot spots areas.
This tax will lead to ppl not improving their homes or doing mods to it.
These valuations will be done by PNM ppl and mostly likely they will have an unspoken mandate to tax injuns higher
you going to be so surprised when you actually see who the assessors are
and the valuers
and the deputy COV
and the COV himself
Not really.
so you know that they are majority indians then?
Sigh...is Ric you talking about sir?
Yes
Are you now going to tell me that a licensed land and valuation surveyor is an uneducated fool?
Or is he a pnm hire from the slums of the beetham?
sMASH wrote:the lil puja rooms are not a 'rentable' part of the house, or property. it cannot be used to 'generate an income' , it cannot be used as a way to 'store wealth'
the reason to have it, is more or less the same reason why public religious establishments are tax exempt.
is like, if u have a stoosh bathroom, or a simple one, u can adjust ur asking price to suit the value added. but nobody goin and say, well that is a realll nice puja room, so that means u gonna charge a high price for the property. u not going to buy the property cause it has a puja room to die for.
and, instead of installing a Jacuzzi, u decided to put a puja room...
just low.
the only reprieve is that the valuators look at the puja rooms, and say it not valid to be assessed as a separate structure.
crazybalhead wrote:ProtonPowder wrote:crazybalhead wrote:ProtonPowder wrote:crazybalhead wrote:ProtonPowder wrote:zoom rader wrote:I read what imbert wrote, I think it was a staged PNM Public relation excersize .
But all in all its really an injun tax.
We know that no one in beetham and laventille will get taxed and in the other PNM hot spots areas.
This tax will lead to ppl not improving their homes or doing mods to it.
These valuations will be done by PNM ppl and mostly likely they will have an unspoken mandate to tax injuns higher
you going to be so surprised when you actually see who the assessors are
and the valuers
and the deputy COV
and the COV himself
Not really.
so you know that they are majority indians then?
Sigh...is Ric you talking about sir?
Yes
Are you now going to tell me that a licensed land and valuation surveyor is an uneducated fool?
Or is he a pnm hire from the slums of the beetham?
I've known him a long time. Your point as to the ethnicity and educational status of the valuers does not really have bearing on the intent and ultimate purpose of the property tax from the perspective of the political machinations within balisier house.
On the surface, it seems perfectly reasonable, but there are too many vagaries in the Minister of Finance's pronouncements thus far without enough hard facts, data or transparency.
Some in this thread seem to suffer from an intense paranoia, however, people like myself who can look beyond the ketchup and mustard politics still require answers going forward without all the fluff. A whatsapp message to Rhoda Bharath is not information. This is just ole talk between a Minister and a party supporter.
88sins wrote:So, anyone know what is the official reason for the delays or refusals to initiate changes to bring about the much touted "needed local gov't reform" that would allow for regional corps to administer this property tax?
Gladiator wrote:WIN WIN WIN.....LOL
De Dragon wrote:88sins wrote:So, anyone know what is the official reason for the delays or refusals to initiate changes to bring about the much touted "needed local gov't reform" that would allow for regional corps to administer this property tax?
Harder for JUHN Scarfy and Co. to steal it.
teems1 wrote:Everyone is beating up about the new tax yet no one willing to address the root cause.
Inefficient and wasteful use of our tax dollars is the main cause. There is more than enough money collected via taxes to run 2 Trinidads but the money is not spent wisely.
Logic dictates to seal up a leaky bucket before utilizing it again. This governments response is to pour more water in it to offset the leaks.
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:http://newsday.co.tt/2018/06/07/pundits-talk-property-tax/
Proton head is not pleased