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screwbash wrote:get some sterilization liquid put it in orange soda go laventille,beetam,enterpeize and say free. in about 10 years no crime in trinidad.
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Slartibartfast wrote:Crime is an extremely complex problem that stems from a multitude of problems so the solution to crime would need to be as multi-faceted as the causes in order to have an impact. Also, any solution would have to remember that the end game for solving the crime problem is preventing crime from taking place, not punishment for crimes that are committed. Too many people focus on punishment and don't realise that the punishment itself doesn't stop criminals from committing a crime. So hear are my thoughts.
1. Increased police presence and police patrols. This goes towards crime prevention.
2. Army assisted police operations. This is to prevent the police force from being spread too thin.
Army/CG built 4 defense of the country not law enforcement. hire more police if u need. But leave the Army/CG to do what they suposed 2 do.
3. Higher qualification requirement and more soft skill training for officers. They need to be able to properly interact with the people they are employed to protect and serve. People need to respect the law and those that uphold it. Those that uphold it therefore need to be respectable individuals.
They done have a shortage of ppl in TTPS. This will make it harder in the short term to recruit.
4. Police outreach programs (No, not a police fete for carnival). Law abiding citizens and police need to no only recognize that they are on the same side but they need to feel that way as well. Police ticketing people doing 81km/hr doesn't help that cause.
Not a bad idea.
5. Police need to focus on their crime solve rate. Start training some top class detectives or something. IDK, I'm not a police so IDK how they can do this but it needs to be done. People are quicker to kill because they know they are a lot less likely to get caught. This needs to change.
Yes. We send Army & CG to Sandhurst for training. Where do we send police 4 training?
6. Punishing the less serious offences. People need to know they can't get away but this only works if the police are reasonable (see points 3 and 4). Police need to show discretion here. Let someone off with a warning if they drop a sweety wrapper on the ground but hit them a fine if they drop an entire box.
Make sense.
7. Change punishments of offences to affect people more equally and focus on teaching the person rather than just punishing them. Example, don't fine someone $1,000 for littering. Make them do community service cleaning up litter in the area that they committed the crime. Rich or poor you have to spend the same amount of time cleaning up so it affects you equally.
Make sense
8. Conviction of white collar criminals regardless of political position of affluence. Those that are above the law set a horrible example to which some people aspire to. The country needs to see that nobody is above the law.
Good idea. But this has never happened in sweet T&T. We like it so.
9. Use jail as a last resort. Remember that the idea is rehabilitation and not just "lockin up a man". Use jail to seperate those that can't live in harmony with a law abiding and civil society while they are rehabilitated inside. All other criminals should face punishment in other ways aimed to teach them what they did wrong, why it was wrong as also allow them to attone for their wrongdoing at the same time.
Sounds good
10. Legalise and regulate all drugs. Addicts need to be able to get help without having to worry about being arrested. Companies still allowed to fire people for failing a drug test. Selling drugs without a license would be punishable as well. This last point would obviously need a lot of thought though. Just some quick ideas.
Yes...yes...yes. Our illicit drug problem iz one of guns, violence and Mr. Bigs. Which iza direct result of Big Gubbament/US Empire laws.
uncle sam wrote:It's the generation curse. Poverty, lack of education, social guidance.
I said this already.. not saying it's true but how many murders have Bachelor Degrees in Trinidad?
Miktay, for No.2 I'm talking about major police operations where they will need massive amounts of police in numbers. Like raids etc. which they already use army for in some cases. I definitely don't mean operations like speed traps and tint ticketing. I agree that the army not trained to deal with the public and should have as little interaction with them as possible.Miktay wrote:Slartibartfast wrote:2. Army assisted police operations. This is to prevent the police force from being spread too thin.
Army/CG built 4 defense of the country not law enforcement. hire more police if u need. But leave the Army/CG to do what they suposed 2 do.
3. Higher qualification requirement and more soft skill training for officers. They need to be able to properly interact with the people they are employed to protect and serve. People need to respect the law and those that uphold it. Those that uphold it therefore need to be respectable individuals.
They done have a shortage of ppl in TTPS. This will make it harder in the short term to recruit.
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Tell politicians to stop politicizing crime...
Slartibartfast wrote:uncle sam wrote:It's the generation curse. Poverty, lack of education, social guidance.
I said this already.. not saying it's true but how many murders have Bachelor Degrees in Trinidad?
Uncle Sam you are not wrong. I will also like to add income inequality to that list.Miktay, for No.2 I'm talking about major police operations where they will need massive amounts of police in numbers. Like raids etc. which they already use army for in some cases. I definitely don't mean operations like speed traps and tint ticketing. I agree that the army not trained to deal with the public and should have as little interaction with them as possible.Miktay wrote:Slartibartfast wrote:2. Army assisted police operations. This is to prevent the police force from being spread too thin.
Army/CG built 4 defense of the country not law enforcement. hire more police if u need. But leave the Army/CG to do what they suposed 2 do.
3. Higher qualification requirement and more soft skill training for officers. They need to be able to properly interact with the people they are employed to protect and serve. People need to respect the law and those that uphold it. Those that uphold it therefore need to be respectable individuals.
They done have a shortage of ppl in TTPS. This will make it harder in the short term to recruit.
Intelligent rebuttal SB.
Note the history of the TTPS.
TTPS was conceived by our former colonial rulers mostly under the British Empire. It was never intended as a genuine standalone crime fighting organization. It was mean 2 deal with petty crimes and give a local face to law enforcement under colonial rule. Whenever major crimes or unrest occurred under colonialism the British military and Scotland Yard directed the matter from behind the scenes.
Many people claim that though the above may or may not be a valid it is ancient history. Tdad having gained independence from the Queen & Crown in 1975 should have evolved along with the TTPS over the last 40 years.
However the observations do not back up that supposition.
Again...we send members of the other branches of the protective services to Sandhurst in England at one of the finest (if not the finest) military academies in the world. This is not cheap. But do that because want our Army and Coast Guard to have the best training.
Where do we send our TTPS for training?
Furthermore how did the TTPS act/react during the coup of 1970 and 1990?
When u have the answer to those question u may better appreciate how the TTPS is viewed by those in power.
3. I still stand by this one but I agree that it won't work if implemented with no other changes. They need to make being a police officer an attractive profession in order to get better applicants. Until then all the potentially good applicants going to continue going UWI to get a degree in Law or Engineering to fight up to be unemployed later on. Of course if they are to give the officers better perks then the officers will need to be held to a higher standard as well. This doesn't have to apply across the board btw. Maybe just ensure that you need certain qualifications to reach higher levels in the police service. Some of the qualifications could probably be attained with training as well. Just spitballing ideas for OP.
IMHO what we need from the TTPS iz not higher level applicants but continuous training and retraining for those who are already in the force. The avg men and women in the TTPS are intelligent people. Far more intelligent IMHO than those in other police forces in the Western Hemisphere and this includes parts of the USA.
Continuous training and retraining would improve upon the basic...but still very good education of current TTPS employees. IT would also improve morale
Where do we send our TTPS for training?
DVSTT wrote:Is OP Rachel price or does she actually have fans beside herself?
Redman wrote:Where do we send our TTPS for training?
US Law Enforcement training institutions, English,LATAM
TTPS officers are trained all over the world-where feasible.
Sacrificing quality for quantity. That was how president of the Police Service Social and Welfare Association Insp Anand Ramesar summed up the training of police officers. He said if modern policies were not implemented to train police recruits there would be more incidents like that of the shooting of PC Kashyap Lochan and even worse. At the same time, Ramesar commended Lochan, who has been in the service for only seven months, for displaying dedication and bravery in the line of duty.
Police recruits awaiting training
A SPECIAL Reserve Police (SRP) hopeful paid as much as $4,000 to have a tattoo removed from his shoulder and $1,000 on a medical after he was accepted as one of 150 successful applicants to begin training last January at the Police Training Academy, St James.
Four months later, the would-be police officers are still waiting to start training, having been turned away after attending an orientation ceremony on January 10 at St James Barracks to return two days later to officially begin training.
It never happened and the recruits have been waiting since 2013 — their hopes have now been dashed with recent reports that recruitment has stopped indefinitely..
“This is real nonsense,” said a recruit who asked not to be identified. “You know what, this has caused many of us to put our lives on hold — women can’t start their families because if they get pregnant there is no way they will be allowed to train, we can’t go on vacation.”
It has been reported that the executive of the of Trinidad and Tobago Police Service (TTPS) has put training for all SRPs on hold.
Slartibartfast wrote:Miktay that number 2 was one of the lesser significant points. Everything suggested was off the top of my head but it is good to see it is sparking a discussion. You may finish your rhetoric and complete your argument. I'm not disagreeing with you.
3. Continuous training is one way to improve the qualification level of the police force. That should be mandatory seeing that the world is dynamic, it would be good if their training stayed up to date to reflect that.
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