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sMASH wrote:i forward that out to my cousin and them, lo and behold, they call him lionel. if them call him lionel, that means it have a set of children between 9 and 15 who also know him as lionel. ah next generation, know ur reputation as a liard.
Those are PNM pplRovin wrote:i see on tv tobago ppl crying for sandals to come back ....
zoom rader wrote:Those are PNM pplRovin wrote:i see on tv tobago ppl crying for sandals to come back ....
Sandals’ pullout could be positive
Loyse Vincent
An expert in tourism intelligence and development says the failed Sandals deal can be an opportunity to change this country’s approach to tourism.
Dr Auliana Poon, Managing Director of Tourism Intelligence International, a leading international consultancy that has been operating for more than 25 years, said Tobago’s tourism stakeholders must let the world know “the island is open for business, but perhaps not open to Sandals business and not in that format.”
Tourism Intelligence International recently beat more than 20 competitors to land the contract to develop Dominica’s National Tourism Policy and Tourism Master Plan. The company contributed to the development of more than 100 destinations, including Abu Dhabi, Antigua and Barbuda, Australia, the Bahamas, Barbados, Benin, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Greece and Hong Kong.
“When Sandals talks about the negative press for some people its negative press, but the independent traveller is happy that an independent destination is concerned about its environment . . . (and) wants to have transparency,” Poon said.
She said such travellers “would love to come to a country where people have a voice and have a say. So I say it’s( extremely positive depending on how you look at it.”
Poon, who runs Villa Being, a high-end tourism resort in Tobago, said of the 1.5 billion travellers globally, only two per cent travel to the Caribbean. If the destination could attract 100,000 of the 1.5 billion people who are more conscious and educated, those travellers would be interested that Tobago is concerned about the environment, she said.
She also said Tobago might not have been ready for a project of the magnitude proposed by the Government and Sandals.
“We need to rethink the strategy of just building the stuff and letting somebody else come to manage it. The real money is in the management. Do we have the management capabilities to run it?” Poon asked.
She suggested that the Caribbean send students to the top universities in Switzerland to study hotel management so that they can return to manage the islands’ resources.
According to Poon, Sandals might not have been what Tobago needed at this point.
“Club Med invented this holiday where people descended on this village for sun, sand, sea and sex and what have you but where is Club Med today? Club Med had its day,” she said.
“The point I’m making is Sandals had 30 to 40 years of fantastic growth and development. I’m asking is this the end of the life cycle we jumping on to? Is it that Tobago is now trying to perfect the production of typewriters when everybody wants a computer? Is this the end of the line? Is this only thing? What is coming after that?”
Redman wrote:Any brand name hotel will seek to get as much concessions as the can...like any other company that is bringing something to the table.
Local companies get concessions on projects.
BP did..and still does.
All foreign companies coming here will need to have freedom to bring the talent they sell fit....at least initially.
Whether it's sandal's or ihop or MHI....they negotiate for every concession they can get.They represent shareholders.
I'm betting that the next MOU with whoever, will look very similar to this one.
Not cuz of boboll but simply for the stage it was at it was what was necessary.
Instead of running world class brand...we should have forced our representative s to get the terms and conditions that we wanted.
What a load of bullchit, no butler getting no 5000US.Gladiator wrote:https://www.facebook.com/78081948066/posts/10156194639433067/
Businessman Demi John Cruickshank speaking at the town meeting on the Sandals pullout at James Park, Scarborough.
Vindra Gopaul
Shastri Boodan
Tobago businessman Demi John Cruikshank is upset about the pullout of Sandals from Tobago.
He told a small group at a town meeting at James Park, Scarborough, on Friday that it was a sad day when the announcement was made that Sandals was leaving.
Cruikshank, former head of the Tobago Division of the T&T Chamber, said the departure of the resort operator was a severe blow to the island’s business community. He said Sandals benefits the islands states where it operates by way of taxes, employment and increased visitor arrivals. He gave the example of the Bahamas had 30,000 international arrivals last Christmas Day, while Tobago only got 18,000 international arrivals for all of 2018.
He said farmers would have benefited and they were getting ready to supply the resort with locally grown produce.
“There was one guy in Pembroke who just mortgaged his house for $5 million and was going into an egg processing business and putting up a massive egg-plant operation in Pembroke. That squashed, 5000 jobs gone, so we understand what we lost,” he said.
Cruickshank also said Tobagonians lost out from earning high incomes at Sandals. He said a butler at the resort earns approximately US$5000 a month plus US$1000 to US$2000 a month in tips.
“If a butler salary is US$7500 a month, he working for more money than the Chief Secretary of the THA. So we sit down with foolishness in Tobago and sit down and let some people who call themselves leaders in Tobago encourage some people who say they are environmentalists in Tobago and did not even pick up the phone and call Sandals and say tell me your track record as to what’s happening with the environment and your environmental policies,” he said.
Cruickshank, who appealed to Tobagonians not be sidetracked by a handful of people, added: “We as right-thinking Tobagonians have to get up and say those people are minorities and they talking foolishness and they do not support or carry the majority of Tobagonians or Tobagonian voices.”
He said another hotel brand was interested in setting shop in Tobago but was waiting for Sandals. However, this might not happen again because of the negative investor climate.
People really dotish yes ... Hear this fool telling people a butler in sandals makes 7500usd a month.
Strugglerzinc wrote:Redman wrote:Any brand name hotel will seek to get as much concessions as the can...like any other company that is bringing something to the table.
Local companies get concessions on projects.
BP did..and still does.
All foreign companies coming here will need to have freedom to bring the talent they sell fit....at least initially.
Whether it's sandal's or ihop or MHI....they negotiate for every concession they can get.They represent shareholders.
I'm betting that the next MOU with whoever, will look very similar to this one.
Not cuz of boboll but simply for the stage it was at it was what was necessary.
Instead of running world class brand...we should have forced our representative s to get the terms and conditions that we wanted.
Strugglerzinc wrote:Redman wrote:Any brand name hotel will seek to get as much concessions as the can...like any other company that is bringing something to the table.
Local companies get concessions on projects.
BP did..and still does.
All foreign companies coming here will need to have freedom to bring the talent they sell fit....at least initially.
Whether it's sandal's or ihop or MHI....they negotiate for every concession they can get.They represent shareholders.
I'm betting that the next MOU with whoever, will look very similar to this one.
Not cuz of boboll but simply for the stage it was at it was what was necessary.
Instead of running world class brand...we should have forced our representative s to get the terms and conditions that we wanted.
How many other companies have the government build their infrastructure at no charge to them?
If all that money spending, might as well leave the already good places alone, and develop a spot that isn't that attractive.rebound wrote:While I love the Sandals model, I would have preferred another location, as no mans land has another appeal for me personally..
I would pay top dollar to go there with minimal staff, a single steel pan player a lounge chair and a small bar...nothing artificial and nothing grand. The rope swing on the beach right now is what we enjoy and love the most there..less is more in this case for me.
Redman wrote:Any brand name hotel will seek to get as much concessions as the can...like any other company that is bringing something to the table.
Local companies get concessions on projects.
BP did..and still does.
All foreign companies coming here will need to have freedom to bring the talent they sell fit....at least initially.
Whether it's sandal's or ihop or MHI....they negotiate for every concession they can get.They represent shareholders.
I'm betting that the next MOU with whoever, will look very similar to this one.
Not cuz of boboll but simply for the stage it was at it was what was necessary.
Instead of running world class brand...we should have forced our representative s to get the terms and conditions that we wanted.
Redman wrote:Oh gorm the point was concessions are taken by any and all companies foreign and local.
Its part of attracting new projects
In this context..whatever concessions that are given have to be weighed against the benefits.
In this case Sandals was a starting point to justify the expansion of the Airport,ports and infrastructure.
If the CostBen is done and used then it will never be one sided.
You wouldnt be able to attract private funding if it was.
With the exception of the stadia all over-these projects will always be used.
So if done properly - the cost of construction is worth it.
Redman wrote:But we haven't reached the stage of having anything to fund.
You can't determine anything based on the MOU.
And this is my main issue.
You have already decided it isn't worth it....even though we all know zero in terms of the details needed to make that decision.
The MOU is too general to use in that manner.
Gortt can raise funding from anywhere.
At this point it remains unknown whether and how it would be funded.
Redman wrote:But we haven't reached the stage of having anything to fund.
You can't determine anything based on the MOU.
And this is my main issue.
You have already decided it isn't worth it....even though we all know zero in terms of the details needed to make that decision.
The MOU is too general to use in that manner.
Gortt can raise funding from anywhere.
At this point it remains unknown whether and how it would be funded.
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